I think it is time for a shake-up of the modship in there. The problem is, of course, FORD and Elvis. I propose switching their mod responsibilities over to the MAIN Forum, and, if I may, I suggest naming Lounge Machine, Warham, NickdFresh as new mods of THE FRONT LINE.
That should fix things.
RIM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've kept my mouth shut so far. I'm waiting this one out.
Great Idea TN'P..Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
I wish I was in Tijuana eating BBQ'd Iguana...
Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team
That's Dr. When It's Love to you guys.
Anyway if you seriously want to change the tone of the forum don't respond to people that post just to be inflammatory, and make reasoned, well argued points.
Oh, and maybe a good starting place would be not to rationalize your favored side's actions by contrasting them against same actions on the other side.
Hey, I can dream.
I handle them. I handle them just fine by picking them apart! And then I wait for your insightful comments....Originally posted by BigBadBrian
See, that's just it. I DO post shit you guys hate. How in the hell do you expect to debate anything otherwise?
No, you all just want to jump on the same damn threads from the same viewpoint day in and day out and have a circle jerk.
You can't HANDLE threads or opinions that contradict your point of view. It's pitiful.
gnaw on it
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Um, how is that "paranoia" exactly.
Here, I'll provide a definition so you know what the fuck you are talking about for once.
Paranoia.
Actually, if you study the definition closely, you see that it far more closely fits you, BBB, and Ally Kat's little hissy fit of malcontentment.
You know, cause as Pojo once said, you can bitch about the forums, or you can make them better.
How's crybaby fest '06 goin for ya?'
Going fine. Keep telling yourself you are making sense and not getting wound up like Cat got you...
POJO also said people could leave too, which one do you think I went by? 2 old school mods have pointed out the problems in that forum and all you have done is prove them right. Nice work.
"I defended Ally iin the past and she said something bad about my forum" whaa whaa whaa
Damn dude, you make it too easy to fuck with you.
Originally posted by Dr. Love
That's Dr. When It's Love to you guys.
Anyway if you seriously want to change the tone of the forum don't respond to people that post just to be inflammatory, and make reasoned, well argued points.
Oh, and maybe a good starting place would be not to rationalize your favored side's actions by contrasting them against same actions on the other side.
Hey, I can dream.
Uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh!
You know I love you Dr.Ain'tTalkin'BoutLove. But not in a gay way.
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Last I heard, "super-spy" blamed Ford for getting him in trouble for not deleting something that could have gotten him "thrown in jail."
Ya know, personally knowing the guy, I think it's hilarious you guys still think he's a spy/CIA agent.
Roth Army Militia
Jesus Tittie Fucking Christ..........
Is this still on?
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Brie, d2, et al for showing the Feedback Forum exactly what it is THEY bring to the table.......
Complaints and rhetoric.
Let's bottom line it for everyone once and for all, okay ladies?
You have no complaint against WarBOT, because he is one of your's, true and true.
And Dr. Love Hurts is like a cyber-Switzerland.
Your complaints are really with Nick and myself. However, since this IS NOT your first rag-fest in this forum calling us out, and since the POWERS THAT BE did nothing to help you.......isn't your complaint really with THEM? After all, if they would only LISTEN to YOU, and FIRE me and Nick.........ALL WOULD ONCE AGAIN BE BEAUTIFUL in The Front Line.
LMMFAO
Here's MY take on this whole thing. It's no coincidence it's happening now.
You cons no longer can defend BushCO
You can no longer excuse The Republican Congress which has spent us into record deficits.
You can no longer defend Rummy.
You see BOTH wars sliding ever deep into failure.
And last but not least..........YOU SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL FOR NOVEMBER.
You need an excuse for not wanting to post this fall. Because let's face it, IF the Repukes were able to hold onto BOTH houses, you'd be here crowing daily.......
But you sure as SHIT don't want to be here listening to the ever growing IMPEACHMENT CHORUS.
Just as your heros all blame the LIBERAL MEDIA for all of your Abramhoff/Iraq/Libby/Katrina/Immigration woes.....you guys can't help but blame US libs for your lack of "wins" in the FL
And here's the REALLY ironic part........
ALL of you guys call the DemocRATS the "negative" party that has NO SOLUTIONS, and that can only whine and complain.
Please point out ONE SINGLE solution offered yet in the 4 pages of this thread by ONE of you.
diamondd? nada
Brie? nada
WarBOT? nada
Ally? nada
Not one single solution to what you think is wrong with the forum.
Think about it. You've become what you complain about.
No longer want to post there?
DO YOU REALLY THINK ANYUONE WILL CARE?
Would ANYONE care if Nick or I stopped posting? HELL NO.
But then we don't think it should cater to us. We think we should cater to it.
So post, or don't.
Offer solutions, or don't.
In the end, I could not possibly care less.
There will always be fresh blood coming in to state their opnions and take on the politcol landscape.
We'll try and remember your name over time.......
But no promises.
Originally Posted by Kristy
Why does that bother you? Why do you care? If you think a point of view is worth defending, post it, and don't worry about what Demon Cunt says!Originally posted by diamondD
Exactly. I've been there since the beginning and it's never been so stale as it is now. You can't post anything without the same insults being hurled constantly. No one debates, it's just a rush to get your insults in first.
God, what a bunch of pussies! The reason some of you don't post is because you have nothing to say!!! Period!
I post these threads, I include my opinion, and I watch them sink. Why can't anyone debate? Is it because I'm mean? Do I hurt people's feelings? Do I give a fuck? NOPE!
Originally posted by diamondD
Going fine. Keep telling yourself you are making sense and not getting wound up like Cat got you...
Yeah, I can tell you're not wound up Ms.Six-posts-in this-thread.
Your pot is my tea kettle.
"Old school mod?" LOL Of the Pleasure Dome?POJO also said people could leave too, which one do you think I went by? 2 old school mods have pointed out the problems in that forum and all you have done is prove them right. Nice work.
Now who needs to "get over" himself?And I've pointed out that you are a hypocrite tha has done nothing but contribute to the problems in that Forum.
You've done nothing but contribute to problems in that forum. Again, articulate your main complaint, because you're either a self-serving phony or a blatant hypocrite (as usual). Which one is it hopalong?
Was it Ford's "censorship," or is it the hyper-aggressive liberals? Either way, you sound like you're bitching and too weak to take it.
But you weren't 'fucking with' me, Ally was. Apparently, she's the only one that can actually get under my skin."I defended Ally iin the past and she said something bad about my forum" whaa whaa whaa
Damn dude, you make it too easy to fuck with you.
Oh damn you woman!!!! (It's about her cunt, as always!)
They post crap to piss people off [admittedly], they call people every name in the book, and they take partisan shots at every opportunity......Originally posted by ODShowtime
Why does that bother you? Why do you care? If you think a point of view is worth defending, post it, and don't worry about what Demon Cunt says!
God, what a bunch of pussies! The reason some of you don't post is because you have nothing to say!!! Period!
I post these threads, I include my opinion, and I watch them sink. Why can't anyone debate? Is it because I'm mean? Do I hurt people's feelings? Do I give a fuck? NOPE!
Yet they ask when the forum went to "shit" ???????
LMMFAO whatever
fuck em
Promise?Originally posted by diamondD
I don't like the forum anymore and don't post. It's just too stupid.
.
Or will you flip-flop
I really don't care what Demon Cunt says to me. Actually it hardly ever addresses me. But I do get sick of wading thru pics of shit and gay man-ass.
You guys can do whatever you want with the forum. It's yours. And if Lounge wants to blame it on politics, that's fine. I'm not trying to offer solutions. I agreed with some opinions in here from some mods I do respect the opinions of, I've had my say, and carry on...
Meet us in the future, not the pasture
The poop pics are offered in response to poopy OP-ED posts.Originally posted by Warham
blah, blah, blah...so boring.
What have you brought to the Frontline other than pics of feces?
Puh-lease! You know exactly what I bring to the Frontline; a liberal point of view backed up with sources and information delivered with some stupid poo jokes, of course!
I can easily deconstuct your neocon rhetoric bullshit and you neocons hate it when that happens.
It's simple:
If you cannot handle the Frontline then don't fucking post in the Frontline!
Take it over to VHForums if you want to be a pussy about it!
I "don't."Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Ya know, personally knowing the guy, I think it's hilarious you guys still think he's a spy/CIA agent.
I just think he's extremely pro-Israeli...
Last edited by Nickdfresh; 09-05-2006 at 08:57 PM.
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
On a serious note, I'd love to see a list of "posters who've stopped posting."
What about posters who have stopped posting in Main?
Or Non?
Or any other forum.....
Do we now dictate the direction of a forum based on those who've left?
Will we be conducting Exit Interview?
Should Congress hold hearings?
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Front Line Party?
This is surreal.
IT'S A POLITCAL FORUM......NOT T-BALL
Not everyone gets to play. Can't swing at a pitch, don't step up to the plate.
Good! That's the spirit!Originally posted by diamondD
I really don't care what Demon Cunt says to me. Actually it hardly ever addresses me. But I do get sick of wading thru pics of shit and gay man-ass.
Can't argue with this.Originally posted by diamondD
You guys can do whatever you want with the forum. It's yours. And if Lounge wants to blame it on politics, that's fine. I'm not trying to offer solutions. I agreed with some opinions in here from some mods I do respect the opinions of, I've had my say, and carry on...
I find it hard to believe you can't offer any solutions, but that's your call.
Now see.....Originally posted by diamondD
I really don't care what Demon Cunt says to me. Actually it hardly ever addresses me. But I do get sick of wading thru pics of shit and gay man-ass.
If this were the Front Line, I would ask why the qualifier....
Only gay man-ass you're sick of?
But then, all out NFL Football type conflict is what makes the forum fun.
[As long as you don't LIE about what another poster has said]
Actually, maybe we're looking at this all wrong.
Maybe we should all just follow Brie's example.
Post op-eds, don't follow up with our own opnions, blast anyone as a pussy liberal who responds, and then cry to the webbies when we get owned.
I'm on it!
Fuck, that's funny!Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Maybe we should all just follow Brie's example.
Post op-eds, don't follow up with our own opnions, blast anyone as a pussy liberal who responds, and then cry to the webbies when we get owned.
You encapsulated BigBland's entire Roth Army career in a single sentence.
p.s. answer my pm you liberal asshole!
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Actually, maybe we're looking at this all wrong.
Maybe we should all just follow Brie's example.
Post op-eds, don't follow up with our own opnions, blast anyone as a pussy liberal who responds, and then cry to the webbies when we get owned.
I'm on it!
I just did, you shit-stirring homoOriginally posted by DEMON CUNT
p.s. answer my pm you liberal asshole!
Alright I have a sugguestion..
Why not just give brian just one thread to spam his BS with..Call it something like "Brians Bullshit Thread", there he can post all his BS there...Brian there really is no need to keep posting things that could easily be put in just one thread IMO..
Of course..I could be wrong..
I don't know..It would also decrease the recent complaint of DC's gay porn and shit, mainly because Brian is limiting his Bullshit to one thread.
People don't know that Demon is just posting pics of Dr.Love from his Myspace account. Jeesh!
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
People don't know that Demon is just posting pics of Dr.Love from his Myspace account. Jeesh!
Perfect.Originally posted by Unchainme
Why not just give brian just one thread to spam his BS with..Call it something like "Brians Bullshit Thread"
However, I have always thought that BBB's own thread should be called The Children's Forum. Warhead can be a mod if he wants.
There've been complaints?Originally posted by Unchainme
I don't know..It would also decrease the recent complaint of DC's gay porn and shit, mainly because Brian is limiting his Bullshit to one thread.
I didn't get that memo.
No, mensa, I was agreeing with Dr Love and Ally. Can you follow along with anything?Originally posted by Nickdfresh
"Old school mod?" LOL Of the Pleasure Dome?
But you weren't 'fucking with' me, Ally was. Apparently, she's the only one that can actually get under my skin.
LOL Priceless...
It's the classic right-wing technique of framing the debate. Losing an argument? Have no clue what the fuck you're talking about? Decry the very debate itself as as invalid!Originally posted by LoungeMachine
They post crap to piss people off [admittedly], they call people every name in the book, and they take partisan shots at every opportunity......
Yet they ask when the forum went to "shit" ???????
LMMFAO whatever
fuck em
You've seen yourself how often they pull this shit. Just a month or two ago Warham was saying he wants to pull the plug on Frontline. And BBB says it's gone to shit. He does this quarterly. Anything in common between these two?
Another way to look at it is the kid who brings his ball to the game and gets his ass kicked and then takes it back leaving everyone else bored.
Nick, reading comprehension. How many posts am I going to have to make before you stop your attitude about me using your post as an example?Originally posted by Nickdfresh
But we'll just conveniently ignore that as I'm cited for being the evil that is the Frontline.
It was a classic example of what goes on in that forum. It was the first post in response to the thread. It could have been written by you, it could have been written by Warham, it could have been written by Pojo. I wouldn't have given a fuck. It is the general template of responses in that forum. You just happened to have been the guy who jumped to do it. Let's drop the partisan crap and be honest. If the shoe was on the other foot, if it was someone with views you supported and someone with views you didn't support posted a reply similar to yours and I used it as my example (which I would have done), you wouldn't be sitting here fighting with me. If I had quoted BBB in an insult-filled response to someone else who started this thread, you'd be happier than a pig in shit at me. But no, you're claiming that I'm paranoid. Of which, claiming that I am is laughable at best. Offering a critique, with which many people agree with me either all or parts, is in no way acting persectured or grand. And that second definition -- you never had a problem with this "tendency" before as I've stated this critque and said action needs to be taken several times. And being suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others, the others in this case being the people on both sides of the aisle who are engaging in this behavior -- So what, I just hate everyone who posts in The Front Line now? Seriously, Nick. Think about what you're accusing me of.
You yourself stated that "hey, I got insulted my 3rd post there so I just dished it back." You stated my exact point in your defense of why you first responded to this thread like you did. And I told you that unfortunately you started posted when the forum was turning into what it is today. I never stated you as the evil within The Front Line. I've made two posts within this thread, directly to you, correcting what you keep babbling about. I've made a post in the mod forum. I've made mod posts. How many posts, in different fashions, am I going to have to make before you stop saying this?
You damn well know I wasn't blaming you. You've participated in threads like this before with me and you never had a complaint on my viewpoint. Now, suddenly, because I pointed out a behavior and it happened to be done by you, I'm wrong and accusing you?
And you know what? We'll never have a solution if we don't correct responses like that. Hell, if we're mods and that's how we respond within and about the forum, what kind of example are we giving others in that forum? A foot needs to be put down on that behavior. This isn't, "oh if you can't take the heat..." because what does it get you? A forum not about politics but on how which viewpoint can out-insult the other? The Dump how it was back in the old days? Is that what we want? I can honestly say, as a member of the RothArmy team, that no -- I do not want that forum to be that way. Sarge made it for a reason and that forum served its reason well until the batch of aliases, trolls, and other random shit-stirrers came and messed it up. Because when they did come, their behavior rubbed off onto some members of the forum and it influenced some people who just started posting there (not just you), making them think that it was "normal" to do such, when it wasn't. And it snowballed, until we end up where we stand now.
You want a solution? Here we go:
Speak softly and carry one hell of a big stick.
Make an announcement in the forum that things are going to change. You can post an article, you can post an op-ed, but you better bring it and engage that conversation on why you support or don't support that or if you want to know what everyone else thinks (for those with no particular stance on the topic but found it interesting).
You make it clear, that unless it is innocent teasing, insults and attacks based on viewpoints alone will not be tolerated. When it happens, post warnings within the thread. If it continues, lock the thread, because obviously that's all the thread is going to be used for. This doesn't mean there's a thread posted and we claim it to be spam and lock it. Give it some time to see if there's a discussion. If not, let it die.
When modding (both sides, so no one thinks I'm attacking them since this is all within one post), drop the personal viewpoints on the issue and/or the poster. Come up, together, with a list of warning signals that might indicate trouble. And I say this because I've witnessed the part situations. Come to an accepted understanding. Be willing (all parties involved) to make some compromises. Don't approach the table (all parties involved) that the "other side of the aisle" has some agenda. And if there is a personal agenda (all parties invovled), drop it. Make the true agenda returning the forum to what it was designed for. It promoted discussion; It wasn't based on "he's a this" or "she's a that" and buddying up to tag-team besed on viewpoints in threads.
And I know some of you (general, public addressed, plural you) are going, "that cunt is crazy with her coming to a general mod consensus, having general guidelines, etc. It's just a stupid messageboard." But the fact of the matter is that it needs a good ceaning out behavior-wise. I'm not saying it needs to be strict as a private school, because what would The Front Line/War Zone be without such wonderful, playful threads as, "The BCE is hacking my computer." The point is that you can have off-color threads where maybe a fight or two breaks out but it doesn't go so serious that there's 30 pages of strict fighting or that it infects other threads, or even take over the entire forum, like it has now.
And anyone can mock me, but that's been my solution for the longest and if The Front Line is dissolved and that kind of discussion comes to Non, I'll have a convo with Coyote and how we want to handle that issue based on what we noticed in that forum.
Hey Nick, this is what happens when you go away from the computer. Try it sometime...
My Summer Vacation
As a matter of fact, I encourage everyone to check it out. It'll soothe everyone's nerves.
Originally posted by diamondD
No, mensa, I was agreeing with Dr Love and Ally. Can you follow along with anything?
Sorry, it's tough to figure out if you're not being an arrogant, condescending prick or not regarding your Van Halen board cred., since you've "been here since the beginning."
In this case, I guess you weren't being a condescending dick, sorry! My bad!
Yeah, her cunt is priceless.LOL Priceless...
Beautiful post Ally.
Ahh, the personal attack, insinuating you have a life, and no one else doesOriginally posted by diamondD
Hey Nick, this is what happens when you go away from the computer. Try it sometime...
My Summer Vacation
As a matter of fact, I encourage everyone to check it out. It'll soothe everyone's nerves.
Nick was gone for a couple of months, guess you didn't notice.
I see this is the going to be the surrogate "proxy-war" since you've vowed not to post in the FL any longer.
But you'll still get your personal digs in regardless, right?
And if I wasn't a condescending prick, I wouldn't have any business being here...
Originally posted by diamondD
Hey Nick, this is what happens when you go away from the computer. Try it sometime...
My Summer Vacation
As a matter of fact, I encourage everyone to check it out. It'll soothe everyone's nerves.
LMAO
Going away from the computer......but coming back and telling everyone via computer what you did while away?????
Priceless.
My sojurns with friends, family, and cohorts will remain private. Regardless of the season.
Wouldn't want to give you more ammo
None of my friends are in those photos. I feel pretty safe they can't be used against me.
It's really interested to see how bi-partisan THIS debate is.
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