Here it is people

[Alex Mogilny]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Fuck Deadhead.

This is NOT a reunion tour if the bass player is not in the band, and I will not be interested in anything released by this latest Ed Van Halen "project", nor will I be interested in seeing any shows.

Tell Ed to stop being such an immature pussy, and make it a REAL reunion, or don't fucking bother.

He already is fucking up anything he does. Why drag Roth into this if Ed is going to just going to ruin it for everyone involved?

Go sell crazy some place HR...If DLR is at the GEC with the Van Halens...you'll be there.

[TheArchitect]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Well, its entirely possible the 3 or 4 or 5 tracks that were recorded with Dave in 2000 may see the light of day with a new release.

Coupled with a few new tracks that Dave may write lyrics and melodies for, you have the potential of a full album.

New music may be the reason why Dave is interested. Its entirely possible, while he may not have been down to 5150 yet, Dave has heard some of the new stuff Ed's been working on.

If Dave thought it was shit, there's no way he would be considering coming back. But if he thought there was something there, he'd be down with it.

Besides what Ed has done on his own (porn soundtrack), we haven't heard any of this *new* VH stuff.

But we do know that the stuff they recorded in 2000 was reported by Dave and Mike (and The Guy ) as kick-ass, classic VH material.

The thing we have to take into account is that Ed's track record WITHOUT Dave has been SHIT.

With him (ie: MWM, CGTSNM), its been great.

Good lord, Roth's interest in this is financial and maybe to relive the glory days.

Why on earth you believe that Ed's playing or writing are different for VH than for something else is beyond me. EVH is done. The playing on those porn tracks is awful, horribly out of tune in several spots and has the most awful guitar sound I have ever heard. The BOBW tracks aren't much better. The last tracks with Roth are TEN YEARS ago. Completely irrelevant in terms of what EVH is today.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by TheArchitect
Why on earth you believe that Ed's playing or writing are different for VH than for something else is beyond me. EVH is done.

That's the way 'band chemistry' works my friend.

Dave and Eddie produce a different dimesion together.

THAT we found out was still evident in 1996 and from what Dave and Mike said, that was still evident from what they did in 2000.

Even in EVH's recent years of drunkeness, I think that's STILL evident.

But we shall see.

Its all speculation until we hear the first note played and sung from a 'new' song.

[TheArchitect]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
That's the way 'band chemistry' works my friend.

Dave and Eddie produce a different dimesion together.

THAT we found out was still evident in 1996 and from what Dave and Mike said, that was still evident from what they did in 2000.

Even in EVH's recent years of drunkeness, I think that's STILL evident.

But we shall see.

Its all speculation until we hear the first note played and sung from a 'new' song.

I have been in bands for 15 plus years. I know all about band chemistry. I also know that you are who you are as a player and an artist. Those don't change regardless of your situation.

You are comparing Ed from 10 years ago to Ed today. apples and oranges

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by TheArchitect
I have been in bands for 15 plus years. I know all about band chemistry. I also know that you are who you are as a player and an artist. Those don't change regardless of your situation.

You are comparing Ed from 10 years ago to Ed today. apples and oranges

Alright alright.

We haven't heard "Ed today" and I'm sorry, scoring porn ain't gonna make me think otherwise until we hear him with Dave and Al.

That is all.

[Jimmy Jingles]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
That's the way 'band chemistry' works my friend.

Dave and Eddie produce a different dimesion together.

THAT we found out was still evident in 1996 and from what Dave and Mike said, that was still evident from what they did in 2000.

Even in EVH's recent years of drunkeness, I think that's STILL evident.

But we shall see.

Its all speculation until we hear the first note played and sung from a 'new' song.

I 100% agree with you on the "band chemistry" angle.

I do think that when they are in the studio together, something just clicks and they fucking rock the shit out.

[The Guy]

Let me clarify a couple of things.

The problem between Ed and Mike goes back a long time. The Other Half thing did not have as much influence on this as many think.
Ed isn't looking to reunite Van Halen for the sake of getting back to the past. It is about moving forward as a band and having some fun again.
The timing is just right right now to make this change.
You can accept it or not, but believe me, its going to be damn good.
Its a whole new chapter of Van Halen, its a glimpse of the past and a look to the future all at the same time. All while spending time with his son doing something they both love together.

Someone posted somewhere that I should post over at that other site fans hang out.
The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.
Fuck them, I don't need that. I can come here every so often or when something new can be reported without the harrassment. Plus all of you long suffering Dave fans are finally getting what you have wanted for a very long time. Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth together again in 2007, not to mention the likely hall of fame induction.

Keep the faith my friends, its going to be fun.

[Jimmy Jingles]

Originally posted by The Guy
Let me clarify a couple of things.

The problem between Ed and Mike goes back a long time. The Other Half thing did not have as much influence on this as many think.
Ed isn't looking to reunite Van Halen for the sake of getting back to the past. It is about moving forward as a band and having some fun again.
The timing is just right right now to make this change.
You can accept it or not, but believe me, its going to be damn good.
Its a whole new chapter of Van Halen, its a glimpse of the past and a look to the future all at the same time. All while spending time with his son doing something they both love together.

Someone posted somewhere that I should post over at that other site fans hang out.
The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.
Fuck them, I don't need that. I can come here every so often or when something new can be reported without the harrassment. Plus all of you long suffering Dave fans are finally getting what you have wanted for a very long time. Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth together again in 2007, not to mention the likely hall of fame induction.

Keep the faith my friends, its going to be fun.

Kick ass post my friend!

Agreed about the 'other sites'. Fuck them and their anal retentive mods.

One part of me is pissed at Ed for not letting Mike be a part of this...while the other part is giddy as fuck to see Ed and Dave on the same stage again.

I still have serious doubts about a 15 year old having the stamina to last through a major tour.

Keep us posted!

[PlexiBrown]

The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.

Ain't that the truth! There are also quite a few Hagar ass kissers over there. Hagar fans all share the same thing. They believe that their insane beliefs are the truth. They are all delusional.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by The Guy
Let me clarify a couple of things.

The problem between Ed and Mike goes back a long time. The Other Half thing did not have as much influence on this as many think.
Ed isn't looking to reunite Van Halen for the sake of getting back to the past. It is about moving forward as a band and having some fun again.
The timing is just right right now to make this change.
You can accept it or not, but believe me, its going to be damn good.
Its a whole new chapter of Van Halen, its a glimpse of the past and a look to the future all at the same time. All while spending time with his son doing something they both love together.

Someone posted somewhere that I should post over at that other site fans hang out.
The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.
Fuck them, I don't need that. I can come here every so often or when something new can be reported without the harrassment. Plus all of you long suffering Dave fans are finally getting what you have wanted for a very long time. Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth together again in 2007, not to mention the likely hall of fame induction.

Keep the faith my friends, its going to be fun.

Moving forward as a band? I find that somewhat hard to digest. Everytime, Ed has wanted to "move forward", its done more harm than good.

He wanted to "move on" with Gary Cherone when all of us wanted Dave and look what happened? Its been downhill ever since.

I'm optimistic, the Guy. Yes, it is encouraging to hear that Ed and Dave may be on stage again.

I guess its not gonna be billed as a "Reunion" then. Can we call this Van Halen Mach 1.2?



I hope you're right.

I want VH to be FUN again. To have that humour, to not take themselves so seriously.

I want to see the FUN videos again and so on, with a modern twist of course.

All those elements were diluted when Hagar joined and completely fell off the map by '96.

Let us hope for the best.

[TheArchitect]

If Ed wants to do something with his kid, fine. Wants to include Roth? Fine. But why under the Van Halen Banner? The Fans of VH showed him what they thought of the last attempt to "move forward" with III. As I recall, Ed said that III was "Damn Good" (Not so much really)Why is he quoting Roth Lyrics by the way? :confused:

This is not going to be accepted by a significant percentage. Just like Hagar was not accepted. EVH's claims that commercial success don't concern him ring very hollow. An EVH solo record would have a much better opportunity than than this because it would sidestep all of the VH shit/baggage and be a new start. Especially if its not about the past as you say the only reason to involve Roth or the VH banner is to try to garner sales/get commercial success. If thats not the point then why?

Ed needs to come down off the mountain for a while and discover whats happened to world while he has been asleep in my opinion.

The PR/Spin machine for this band has been broken for at least a decade. Repairs do not appear imminent

[ppg960]

[Why drag Roth into this if Ed is going to just going to ruin it for everyone involved? [/B][/QUOTE]

I agree. I wouldn't get involved with Ed now considering the state he's in.

[PlexiBrown]

If Ed wants to do something with his kid, fine. Wants to include Roth? Fine. But why under the Van Halen Banner?

I would rather see Wolfgang in the band under the Van Halen banner then Spammy.

[ThrillsNSpills]

So The Guy,

there will be a new CD from all this?
april 17th, maybe?

[Halen High]

Thanks for the update.

I've been checking out the reaction to all this on other sites, and it seems to me there are a lot of Sammy Hagar fans suffering right now. Interesting how some people can accept Van Halen without DLR, but can't accept them without MA.

"it's a glimpse of the past and a look to the future"

That's exactly what there approach should be. Preferably with Mike, but if not then I'm willing to stay optimistic. There's no way Dave would get involved in this if it was going to be anything less than awesome.

Come on people, Sammy Hagar is history. That alone is worth celebrating!

[PlexiBrown]

The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.

That guy Brett at VH links got pissed when someone posted this over there. He said the following:

Good go to the Army jackass. Fucking holier than thou dickbag. And that goes for "The Guy" too.

By posting this all he did was prove "the guy's" point.

[ThrillsNSpills]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Halen High
[B]Thanks for the update.

I've been checking out the reaction to all this on other sites, and it seems to me there are a lot of Sammy Hagar fans suffering right now.


If Sam could cut it solo then they wouldn't have to suffer, would they?

[TheArchitect]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
[B]

Originally posted by Halen High
Thanks for the update.

I've been checking out the reaction to all this on other sites, and it seems to me there are a lot of Sammy Hagar fans suffering right now.


If Sam could cut it solo then they wouldn't have to suffer, would they?

I see a lot of Hagar fans pissed that EVH is dicking over Mike. I don't see any of them suffering. They dig Sammy and he has been recording and touring. More than Opie and Andy have been doing by a long shot. What is there to be suffering about? They won't have spend another $100 to see Ed screw up the songs? They have been there and done that.

[SBell]

I just heard the news tonight on my locaol radio station and they have confirmed this reunion has happened. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!

I was a bit disappointed to read here that they are cutting Mike out though. Mike is a big part of this band because of his vocals. This band was to be my first concert as a kid. Talked my parents into getting the tickets 2 hours after they went on sale and they were sold out in minutes, I was pissed. This was for the 1984 tour, so as everyone knows I never got to see my most favorite band ever play together. I have been to see VH with Sammy and I have been to numerous DLR shows and the DLR shows were by far the better because of the show Dave puts on, but Ed's guitar still sits fresh in my mind. Anyway, there is no way Dave should do this unless all 4 ORIGINAL Members are in it. Dave has been at Ed for years to do this and i'm worried that this whole thing is more for the finances then anything else. This band would sell out stadiums even today for this event. I'm so excited about this news yet not happy that Mike is gonna be cut out. I'm going to the show(s) with or without Mike.
I can't wait to hear ME WISE MAGIC live to. I hope the new stuff is just like this song because after all the years apart this band sounded like the VH of old when they recorded Me Wise Magic and Can't get this stuff no more. To me it sounded like the band never broke up. I think the new stuff will rock because Dave and Eddie together have a proven track record when it comes to music. Using the two songs i just mentioned as example proves it. Compare the Hagar days to these two songs alone and it just proves what DLR brings to the table.

Sorry for going back and forth on things folks but i am just so excited about this I can't think straight,lol.

[ThrillsNSpills]

Originally posted by TheArchitect
I see a lot of Hagar fans pissed that EVH is dicking over Mike. I don't see any of them suffering. They dig Sammy and he has been recording and touring. More than Opie and Andy have been doing by a long shot. What is there to be suffering about? They won't have spend another $100 to see Ed screw up the songs? They have been there and done that.

Mike's had a pretty good run with Van Halen. If he wanted the slot you'd think he'd have called Ed or something prior to all this.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
Mike's had a pretty good run with Van Halen. If he wanted the slot you'd think he'd have called Ed or something prior to all this.

Right now:

Mike's person is talking to Ed's people, negotiating the "pay-per-appearance" particulars.

You thought "1" bass solo was bad?

[Halen High]

Originally posted by TheArchitect
I see a lot of Hagar fans pissed that EVH is dicking over Mike. I don't see any of them suffering. They dig Sammy and he has been recording and touring. More than Opie and Andy have been doing by a long shot. What is there to be suffering about? They won't have spend another $100 to see Ed screw up the songs? They have been there and done that.

I was really referring to Sammy Hagar fans as in Van Hagar fans, masquerading as Van Halen fans if you know what I mean. Not those old 'Red Head' types from his solo days in the 70s.

Van Hagar fans are suffering. In the sense that 'their' band, Van Hagar, is over. And suffering in the knowledge that the last time we saw Sammy with VH it turned into a massive flop! Some of these people literally hate Dave and the thought of him coming back really pisses them off!

[Halen High]

Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
So The Guy,

there will be a new CD from all this?
april 17th, maybe?

If the latest rumours are true it's starting to look like a new album is possible. Maybe WB and promoters told them that if there's gonna be no Mike and a CVH reunion to promote then has to be at least a new album to help generate maximum interest.

[Roy Hagar]

Originally posted by The Guy
Let me clarify a couple of things.

The problem between Ed and Mike goes back a long time. The Other Half thing did not have as much influence on this as many think.
Ed isn't looking to reunite Van Halen for the sake of getting back to the past. It is about moving forward as a band and having some fun again.
The timing is just right right now to make this change.
You can accept it or not, but believe me, its going to be damn good.
Its a whole new chapter of Van Halen, its a glimpse of the past and a look to the future all at the same time. All while spending time with his son doing something they both love together.

Someone posted somewhere that I should post over at that other site fans hang out.
The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.
Fuck them, I don't need that. I can come here every so often or when something new can be reported without the harrassment. Plus all of you long suffering Dave fans are finally getting what you have wanted for a very long time. Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth together again in 2007, not to mention the likely hall of fame induction.

Keep the faith my friends, its going to be fun.

You're full of shit! Prove your sources bitch or keep it quiet! Brett is a fucking God, fuck you.

[TheArchitect]

Originally posted by Halen High
I was really referring to Sammy Hagar fans as in Van Hagar fans, masquerading as Van Halen fans if you know what I mean. Not those old 'Red Head' types from his solo days in the 70s.

Van Hagar fans are suffering. In the sense that 'their' band, Van Hagar, is over. And suffering in the knowledge that the last time we saw Sammy with VH it turned into a massive flop! Some of these people literally hate Dave and the thought of him coming back really pisses them off!

How do you define flop? Eddie being a wreck? The tour made maoney and was well attended considering the joke EVH turned the name Van Halen into. Like Hagar or Hate him, he had nothing to do with that. That was all EVH.

Hagar fans don't hate Dave, thats the thing. I know a lot of people here like to believe that but I don't see that opinion anywhere but here. They understand DLR's importance to VH. They just like Hagar in VH also. EVH turning the name Van Halen into a punchline is what pisses them off, not who is singing

[Matt White]

FUCK the CHed rocker

and FUCK van hagar

[AJW]

Originally posted by SBell
I just heard the news tonight on my locaol radio station and they have confirmed this reunion has happened. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!

I was a bit disappointed to read here that they are cutting Mike out though. Mike is a big part of this band because of his vocals. This band was to be my first concert as a kid. Talked my parents into getting the tickets 2 hours after they went on sale and they were sold out in minutes, I was pissed. This was for the 1984 tour, so as everyone knows I never got to see my most favorite band ever play together. I have been to see VH with Sammy and I have been to numerous DLR shows and the DLR shows were by far the better because of the show Dave puts on, but Ed's guitar still sits fresh in my mind. Anyway, there is no way Dave should do this unless all 4 ORIGINAL Members are in it. Dave has been at Ed for years to do this and i'm worried that this whole thing is more for the finances then anything else. This band would sell out stadiums even today for this event. I'm so excited about this news yet not happy that Mike is gonna be cut out. I'm going to the show(s) with or without Mike.
I can't wait to hear ME WISE MAGIC live to. I hope the new stuff is just like this song because after all the years apart this band sounded like the VH of old when they recorded Me Wise Magic and Can't get this stuff no more. To me it sounded like the band never broke up. I think the new stuff will rock because Dave and Eddie together have a proven track record when it comes to music. Using the two songs i just mentioned as example proves it. Compare the Hagar days to these two songs alone and it just proves what DLR brings to the table.

Sorry for going back and forth on things folks but i am just so excited about this I can't think straight,lol.

My feelings exactly. I really don't know what to think now? I hope this happens since I never got to see Dave with the band in their heyday. When they were kings.

[PlexiBrown]

Some dork at the links is trying to start a rumour that Hagar and Alex Van Halen are communicating and that Hagar is in the band. It got all of the dumb ass Hagar fans over there excited. The 2004 thing with Spam was a failure and concert attendance was poor. Having Hagar in the band again would be the final nail in the VH coffin. No way Warner Bros. would put up with that. As far as Warner Bros. are concerned it is Dave or nothing.

[ppg960]

There seems to be many new Sammy / Van Hagar fans signing up here again.
Give it up, Van Hagar is DONE!
End of that era. Move forward.

[Halen High]

Originally posted by TheArchitect
How do you define flop? Eddie being a wreck? The tour made maoney and was well attended considering the joke EVH turned the name Van Halen into. Like Hagar or Hate him, he had nothing to do with that. That was all EVH.

Hagar fans don't hate Dave, thats the thing. I know a lot of people here like to believe that but I don't see that opinion anywhere but here. They understand DLR's importance to VH. They just like Hagar in VH also. EVH turning the name Van Halen into a punchline is what pisses them off, not who is singing

Of course Van Hagar 2004 was a flop. I believe the band made money based on certain guarantees, but the promoters took a huge hit. And you think it was well attended? The typical attendance was between 30%-60% capacity. I have the figures. Even before the poor reviews started FLOODING in, the first few shows were played to half empty indoor arenas? We can't blame Eddie's playing for that. And Sammy had plenty to do with those three ABYSMAL new tunes on BOBW.

You're right that not all Van Hagar fans hate Dave. But there are MANY who refuse (like Sammy) to acknowledge Van Halen was any good with Dave, or that Dave had anything to do with it. Yes, Eddie has done a fine job destroying the VH legacy, including hiring Sammy. Arguably the worst lyricist in the history of the genre! And if you have read Sammy's "book" on the Net you would know the man and his manager were on a mission from day one to destroy the CVH legacy. The guy NEVER respected CVH and all those years they worked their butts off to establish themselves. What a wanker!

[VH LINKS SUCKS]

Not buying any of this until Edward Van Halen makes it official himself!

Dave's an idiot if he tours under any lable considered a "reunion" without Mike!

If Eddie wants to continue as Van Halen w/ Dave, Alex and Wolfgang fine, but don't consider that a reunion tour in 2007!

[DavidLeeNatra]

all this bullshit (including the interview on stern) shows one obvious fact...ed conciders himself and his sister as the two halfs of VH...that means for HIM it is still VH as long as he and alexis are in the band no matter who they play with...so for HIM he has every right to fuck up the legacy...

I really believe that sam fought for bass player to be part of the 2004 fiasco...we'll see what dave fights for...

[VindictivePantz]

If TheGuy is legit, and does not have l33t web surfing skills and is behind an anonymous proxy, can't one of the mods look at his IP, etc.? I would assume that someone close to the situation as TheGuy claims to be would be located in/near California.

PM to TheGuy: If you're legit, thank you.

If you're not, eat a stick of cat shit.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Hey GUY,

Since Friday, internet news reports have been rampent on the whole Wolfie as bassist thing and the unconfirmed news of Dave coming back.

I'm sure Eddie is aware of all this (seeing as how his own girlfriend and publicist confirmed the news).

So, what's the holdup?? Will we hear an official statement from the band?? A press conference with Dave??

I mean, the net has been buzzing over this and I think now's the time to capatalize on it.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by The Guy
Things will become clear before you head over the river and through the woods to grandma's house for Thanksgiving turkey.

Its gonna be big, damn big. Something rock and roll hasn't scene in a long long time.

The Guy posted that on September 20th, 2006.

Since then, we have had a report from Andrew (melodicrock) and confirmation from Ed's publicist/girlfriend on Wolfie's involvement.

So, is Thanksgiving still in the cards?

[The Guy]

The announcement should come at any time, whether its before Thanksgiving or not, they don't know.
Things are coming together quite rapidly, faster than expected.

Something else I would like to clarify is Sam and Alex's friendship.
Yes they are still firends and yes they talk on occasion, but Sammy is not coming back to the band anytime soon. He is not at all bitter about this reunion with Dave, but holds out hope that Mike will be involved and is trying to get Alex to talk Ed into it.
Nobody knows how long this reconciliation with Dave will last, but its going to be atleast one tour and one release.
The release being either the long waited boxed set (with either some new stuff or unreleased material from all incarnations of the band) or a new album by itself.

[DavidLeeNatra]

jesus motherfucking christ...

[Hardrock69]

Originally posted by Roy Hagar
You're full of shit! Prove your sources bitch or keep it quiet! Brett is a fucking God, fuck you.

Go fuck yoruself.

Get back into your fucking dog costume, and let Brett continue to ass-rape you, so you can suck his shit-coated cock.

[Hardrock69]

Hey Guy, if you really are on speaking terms with them, tell Ed to get off his dead ass and release some CVH concert DVDs from back in the day.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by The Guy
The announcement should come at any time, whether its before Thanksgiving or not, they don't know.
Things are coming together quite rapidly, faster than expected.

Something else I would like to clarify is Sam and Alex's friendship.
Yes they are still firends and yes they talk on occasion, but Sammy is not coming back to the band anytime soon. He is not at all bitter about this reunion with Dave, but holds out hope that Mike will be involved and is trying to get Alex to talk Ed into it.
Nobody knows how long this reconciliation with Dave will last, but its going to be atleast one tour and one release.
The release being either the long waited boxed set (with either some new stuff or unreleased material from all incarnations of the band) or a new album by itself.

Thanks for the update, Guy.

While the rest of what you said seems encouraging, I was hoping Sambo wasn't on any speaking terms with Al.

Oh well, Ed still runs the band, so who cares what Alice thinks.

I find it odd how Sam is lobbying for Mike's return to VH.

So if Mike does come back and we get the full-on CVH Reunion, we would have Sammy to thank?:eek:

So, if I get this right, the bass player issue seems to be what's holding up the announcement, correct?