You all saw this coming, right?

[light 'em up!]

This is Ed passing the torch to his kid... Ed knows a reunion with Dave is the most lucrative of his options, and it just might be Wolfie who is pulling the strings. Mike and Sam are OUT and Dave could be back IN, IF he plays his cards right. The VH saga takes yet another twist and turn. Wolfie's in because he wants to be in.

Many VH purisits will find this diffiicult to accept, but if the kid can learn the parts and sing the harmonies, it just might work. Dave is hungry enough to embrace a Mikeless reunion.

The magic of Van Halen is between Dave and Ed. It always was. Anyone can play with those TWO and it's going to be great.

I just hope we get 1 more album of Dave and Ed. At this point, who cares who's playing bass for Van Halen.

[Terry]

Confused as to what torch Eddie is passing to his kid.

Van Halen is damaged goods. At this point, even a full-member CVH reunion has the feeling of something that should have been done ten years ago as the prelude to a new future for the band, and now only serves the purpose of a possible ending for the Van Halen name in something other than bemused apathy.

I'll take an album of new material from Ed and Dave any day. Even if it's not called Van Halen and has studio bassists and drummers on it. THAT prospect still interests me. As for the rest, well, 1996 was the second chance for those guys. They blew it. Suppose there will still be opportunities as long as everyone is still breathing, but what made sense a decade ago is now smelling more like something undertaken out of a sense of desperation and realization that time is running out.

About the only torch Ed could leave Wolfie that matters to me is if he wills his kid all rights to release any vaulted CVH video and audio. CVH as a contemporary entity with a future, for all intents and purposes, ended in 1984. Any chance of bucking those odds died when they fucked it up in 1996, then pissed away ten years.

[diamondsgirl]

Re: You all saw this coming, right?

Originally posted by light 'em up!

Many VH purisits will find this diffiicult to accept, but if the kid can learn the parts and sing the harmonies, it just might work. Dave is hungry enough to embrace a Mikeless reunion.

I agree. I don't know how anyone can be a "VH purist" anymore. They need to get over it, IMO, and become a "VH realist" like me. Its a lot less painful.

Originally posted by light 'em up!

The magic of Van Halen is between Dave and Ed. It always was. Anyone can play with those TWO and it's going to be great.

Thats reality. Well, maybe not "anyone"...but I know what you mean...good post.

[FORD]

I don't know about "anyone". I think Billy Sheehan would be a lot better than Wolfie.

In fact, if Mike is absolutely out of the picture, Sheehan should be the first option. Last I heard he was on friendly terms with both Dave & Eddie.

[MAX]

I know fat jokes piss people off but fuck it...

I just wonder what the new M&M clause will be with that kid on board? :confused:

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by FORD
I don't know about "anyone". I think Billy Sheehan would be a lot better than Wolfie.

In fact, if Mike is absolutely out of the picture, Sheehan should be the first option. Last I heard he was on friendly terms with both Dave & Eddie.

Yeah, but can Billy sing those back-up harmonies?

I'm sure Wolf is a great kid and very talented, but this is complete bullshit. No reunion without Mike. PERIOD.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by FORD
I don't know about "anyone". I think Billy Sheehan would be a lot better than Wolfie.

In fact, if Mike is absolutely out of the picture, Sheehan should be the first option. Last I heard he was on friendly terms with both Dave & Eddie.

Sheenan and Ed on stage will absolutely KILL!!

Besides, Billy replacing Mike is something like, 25 years in the making!

[Ellyllions]

There's a big difference between changing lead singers and bass players.

Sure the bass is an essential part of the rhythm section, but when the lead vocal changes, the whole feel of the music is different.

I'm not opposed to having someone else on bass. In the studio, the recordings can be worked for harmonies. Live, it's like all different songs...so that's not really an issue for me.

If I can stand in that crowd, close my eyes and hear what I've been waiting for?...it's all good.

The one thing that I am apprehensive about if this reunion goes to frutition has nothing to do with the instruments. I'm hoping that if it happens, Dave doesn't ruin the songs by rushing through the lyrics like I've heard him do so many times in videos lately. It's just common practice for a singer that has sung a song a gazillion times to not sing them correctly just to get through them. Paying more attention to onstage antics than the songs. That shortchanges the audience in my mind.

[bru87tr]

Re: You all saw this coming, right?

Originally posted by light 'em up!
This is Ed passing the torch to his kid... Ed knows a reunion with Dave is the most lucrative of his options, and it just might be Wolfie who is pulling the strings. Mike and Sam are OUT and Dave could be back IN, IF he plays his cards right. The VH saga takes yet another twist and turn. Wolfie's in because he wants to be in.

Many VH purisits will find this diffiicult to accept, but if the kid can learn the parts and sing the harmonies, it just might work. Dave is hungry enough to embrace a Mikeless reunion.

The magic of Van Halen is between Dave and Ed. It always was. Anyone can play with those TWO and it's going to be great.

I just hope we get 1 more album of Dave and Ed. At this point, who cares who's playing bass for Van Halen.

how do you figure ? Dave hungry enough ? not now, maybe in 96' and still, then, he said he wouldnt do it unless it was all 4 memebers.

I still dont see dave doing it without Mike. Dave needs MA backing vocals for it to sound authentic. those two made the vocal sound of VH. 3/4 of the band will be close but it still wont sound right.

just like daves hired guns playing EVH. its ok but its not EVH.


I just dont see dave desperate enough now, to agree to that. dave has the upper hand and if he wants MA in he will be in. Dave looks and sounds as good as ever!!!! ed is all over this and if dave is as smart as he has been in the past. he will force the issue with ed.

it would be a huge suprise if dave goes against what he has said. all 4 or nothing!!!!!

[bru87tr]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
There's a big difference between changing lead singers and bass players.

Sure the bass is an essential part of the rhythm section, but when the lead vocal changes, the whole feel of the music is different.

I'm not opposed to having someone else on bass. In the studio, the recordings can be worked for harmonies. Live, it's like all different songs...so that's not really an issue for me.

If I can stand in that crowd, close my eyes and hear what I've been waiting for?...it's all good.

The one thing that I am apprehensive about if this reunion goes to frutition has nothing to do with the instruments. I'm hoping that if it happens, Dave doesn't ruin the songs by rushing through the lyrics like I've heard him do so many times in videos lately. It's just common practice for a singer that has sung a song a gazillion times to not sing them correctly just to get through them. Paying more attention to onstage antics than the songs. That shortchanges the audience in my mind.

couldnt agree with you more. I have seen some videos of dave of late rushing and speaking through the songs. its a shame cause dave can sound dead on when he wants too. when I watch the carson show "meen street" he did, that was the most I ever heard him sing that song so close to the original. he actuall puts his voice right into it and makes all the wails.

I think dave will work as hard as he ever has to deliver to the fans.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by bru87tr
I think dave will work as hard as he ever has to deliver to the fans.

Singing as the lead singer of Van Halen, Dave will indeed work his ass off.

[sadaist]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Singing as the lead singer of Van Halen, Dave will indeed work his ass off.

But will Eddie do his part and play anything remotely close to recognizable? Or listenable?

[Bo Nozos]

Sorry, but Wolfie ain't picking up no torch.

This is a business where image is as important as talent. It's got room for just about one fat rocker, and his name is Meatloaf. Even John Popper had to lose weight.

So spare me this bullshit about the next generation of Van Halen.

[yah]

Ed should just have his kid make guest appearances again playing 6 string, ONCE in a while.....

Dave -DO NOT do a VH reunion tour without Mike....it would be criminal.
Ed will just have to get over his stupid pride-filled mental grudges.

[binnie]

Do we have any further confirmation on whether Wolfie is actully in or not?

Are we still working on one rumour only?

Ahhh fuck it.

If Dave and Ed record I'll still be happy!