Never gig with a stock Epiphone

[Nitro Express]

We all know the electronics in Epiphone guitars are poor quality but I found out last night how bad. My brother-in-law wanted me to play a few songs with his band. I did not have any of my gear so I borrowed his Epiphone SG.

When I switched pickups the switch wouldn't work right and no signal would come out so I hat to wiggle the thing. All sorts of pops and farts coming out of the amp. Every knob was scratchy.

Finally when I unplugged the cord, the jacknut broke off and the jack fell inside the guitar.

Now that's some shitty electronics on a new guitar!

[Cato]

Koreans are lame!

I can't understand why people like their guitars. imperfection of wiring, thick polyurethane coating. poor fret job.......any advantage?

[mako_kimura]

Hell, Chinese guitars are better than most Epiphones, yet for some reason, all the kiddies are flocking for either the Iommi SG or the Zakk Wylde Les Paul. There's a reason I play Ibanez and Ibanez only

[Panamark]

I would feel like "The dude that cant afford a gibson"
if I played an EPI.....

Fook That !

Ive always had a real Les Paul within reach..

[Nitro Express]

My main squeeze is a Musicman Axis. I do have an Epiphone G-400 but I upgraded the electronics but never play it live. I thought it was a cool guitar for $280.

My brother in law bought an Epiphone SG for a backup. Some backup! That's like having a flat tire as a spare. The thing was self-destructing on me during the show! It was embarassing. The jack metal snapped. I thought the nut just wiggled off but the metal is so cheap it just broke!

What's next? The neck snapping off? The guitar played ok but had that polyester plastic feel.

I don't think I'm going to be doing Epiphone anymore business. I wouldn't even trust their Elite models. Any company that puts useless parts in a guitar is not a good company. I've played cheap Squire and Peavey guitars that the electronics; even though, cheap still worked. Epiphone is the worst.

[mako_kimura]

Originally posted by Panamark
I would feel like "The dude that cant afford a gibson"
if I played an EPI.....

Fook That !

Ive always had a real Les Paul within reach..

Or at the most, use an ESP Eclipse

[kentuckyklira]

Real men play Strats!

[Last_Child]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
Real men play Strats!

well okey.. maybe.

anyway.

I have a korean Les Paul and it's working quite well.
Altough I've encountered the first problem you got.
But that's really seldom to me.

[LoungeMachine]

Never gig with a stock Epiphone.

See also:


Never gig on a Tuesday Night opening for a tribute band with name Vitals Signs or Intruder.

Never tug on Superman's cape.

Never spit into the wind.

Never dip your pen in the company ink.

Never say "I'll make you breakfast in the morning" after 12 beers.

Never wet your finger and then grab the paperclip sticking from the light socket.

Never hire a human brillo pad and then try and pass it off as Van Halen

Never let your wallet leave your sight until you know the hooker very well.


Never play pool for money with anyone who brings their own cue.

Never buy a war from someone named George.

Never under any circumstances, date sisters.

[Nitro Express]

Epiphone should make a George W. Bush tribute guitar. It would be fitting. Heck, make a Sammy Hagar, Cabo Wabo tribute as well.

[Kilkmaru]

You live you learn.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by Kilkmaru
You live you learn.

No Shit! LOL!

[Diamondjimi]

I've yet to play an Epiphone that screams "buy me". For the most part they're firewood. I know a guy who's 40 and a Zakk Wylde wannabe. Bought himself an Epiphone Z.W. sig. Looks like a complete tool with his B.L.S. vest , doo rag and Z.W. sig. It's just sad.
Now if Epiphone could make a L.P. that looks , sounds and plays like my "Honey". I might consider buying one........

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine

Never under any circumstances, date sisters.

I actually did, twins, about 15 years ago.

Lots of fun,

and I survived!

[Hardrock69]

Cool!

Though my Epis are very well crafted guitars, with perfect finish, neck, fretboard, etc., the electronics are gonna get replaced someday in their entirety.

The Switch in my Korina Explorer is a cheap piece of shit, and the pickups in my Korina V suck ass as well.

I would be proud to play either one live, but only with some work beforehand.

Nice Les Paul!

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
Real men play Strats!

real men know how to make both sing

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Panamark
I would feel like "The dude that cant afford a gibson"
if I played an EPI.....

Fook That !

Ive always had a real Les Paul within reach..

Nothing wrong with the Tokai's...

[kentuckyklira]

Here´s what you might find "inside" your Epiphone neck! These pics are from a German luthier who was asked to repair the damage!

[DrMaddVibe]

What Epi model is that?

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
What Epi model is that?

Some Les Paul, I forgot which one. I just thought the pics were worth saving!

[Reverberator]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
We all know the electronics in Epiphone guitars are poor quality but I found out last night how bad. My brother-in-law wanted me to play a few songs with his band. I did not have any of my gear so I borrowed his Epiphone SG.

When I switched pickups the switch wouldn't work right and no signal would come out so I hat to wiggle the thing. All sorts of pops and farts coming out of the amp. Every knob was scratchy.

Finally when I unplugged the cord, the jacknut broke off and the jack fell inside the guitar.

Now that's some shitty electronics on a new guitar!

I bought a Epi LP custom a while ago for a tribute band project and have had zero problems.

Unlike the American strat I have that is built like shite and went out on me onstage, the jackplug was fooked and I felt a real CUNT.

All guitars can be hit or miss it's as simple as that.

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Originally posted by diamondjimi
I've yet to play an Epiphone that screams "buy me". For the most part they're firewood. I know a guy who's 40 and a Zakk Wylde wannabe. Bought himself an Epiphone Z.W. sig. Looks like a complete tool with his B.L.S. vest , doo rag and Z.W. sig. It's just sad.
Now if Epiphone could make a L.P. that looks , sounds and plays like my "Honey". I might consider buying one........

Someone should tell him that BLS will always suck with a shitty vocalist. Please take a picture of this dude and upload it!


He sounds worse than a wigger.

[indeedido]

I've always dumped the electronics on every guitar I've ever bought. Even my '73 Les Paul Custom. I just dont' care for what they put in. Cheap, thin spagetti wire, cheap pots, etc. I shield all the cavities myself. I like after market pickups as I like them to be a little hotter.

That being said, you can put a good pickup on a 2x4 or a railroad tie and it would sound good. You can't be a snob for a name brand anymore. Epiphones are great guitars after you take out the pickups and rewire it. At the end of the day the guitar is a slab of wood and electronics. Yes I undertand there are different grades of wood and each has tonal differences. But there is no way you can tell me a guitar like the Zakk Wylde Les Paul for example at $5k is that much better than the epiphone at $800.

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Never tug on Superman's cape.
Never spit into the wind.
Never dip your pen in the company ink.
Never say "I'll make you breakfast in the morning" after 12 beers.
Never let your wallet leave your sight until you know the hooker very well.
Never play pool for money with anyone who brings their own cue.
Never under any circumstances, date sisters.

Boy,did I ever fuck up!
Especially the last one.
I married the one with the biggest tits.

[mott98]

For beginners to intermidiate, Epiphones represent a step-up. Remember, us old guys, for the $100-300 range, had to buy really ugly horrible guitars in that price range. Not even a reasonable copy of a Les Paul or Strat...

That is what these Epis are now. You can, for $1-300, buy a guitar that LOOKS better and closer to the real guitar, and actually works a little better --- but would anyone use a Sears catalog guitar for a gig in 1977 --- of course not! Same lesson here.

I think Epi does 80% sales to kids who want something that looks like the real thing--the other 20% are guitar players who think they can buy a medium guitar and upgrade it to a nice guitar. Impossible. Waste of money.

See an Epi you want, save your $$$ to buy it. The day go to buy it, put the money in an envelope and wait 3-6 more months and save some more money up and buy a US made guitar. You will have something better to play, and you will have something more valuable to sell or trade later.

IMO.

[col5150]

i gotta disagree on this one kind of. I recently played the epi zakk wilde camo les paul in the guitar store and was that impressed i bought the thing. It plays better than my gibson les paul studio which shouldnt be the case goin by the price difference. Ive gotta admit the toggle switch doesnt feel that great. But the allover craftmenship is pretty damn good.

i normally play my wolfy standard but i think this zakk epi would do the job if i were to gig again at any point.

[mott98]

Originally posted by col5150
i gotta disagree on this one kind of. I recently played the epi zakk wilde camo les paul in the guitar store and was that impressed i bought the thing. It plays better than my gibson les paul studio which shouldnt be the case goin by the price difference. Ive gotta admit the toggle switch doesnt feel that great. But the allover craftmenship is pretty damn good.

i normally play my wolfy standard but i think this zakk epi would do the job if i were to gig again at any point.

I was probably too harsh on Epis, but I will say that if you use one, you do not just swap electronics. Those tuners on most of them are for crap as well.

I was stunned to buy an Epi SG Custom, only to find out that US made Gibson parts will not retrofit with them. I thought stop tailpieces and bridges had gotten pretty universal on size and spacing, but nope --- totally differently fabricated parts. Sold the SG about 3 days after I bought it when I realized what a headache it would be to upgrade.

Interesting that a Korean Zakk plays better than a US Studio, but then again, maybe it is not surprising that a high-end guitar out of Korea gets more craftsmanship and elbow grease than a midline US model does.

Gibson's US pricing is outrageous. If a LP Custom is about $5K list, then wonder who is doing all of the craftsmanship on the guitars that list for $2k and below........interns?

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by indeedido
I've always dumped the electronics on every guitar I've ever bought. Even my '73 Les Paul Custom. I just dont' care for what they put in. Cheap, thin spagetti wire, cheap pots, etc. I shield all the cavities myself. I like after market pickups as I like them to be a little hotter.

That being said, you can put a good pickup on a 2x4 or a railroad tie and it would sound good. You can't be a snob for a name brand anymore. Epiphones are great guitars after you take out the pickups and rewire it. At the end of the day the guitar is a slab of wood and electronics. Yes I undertand there are different grades of wood and each has tonal differences. But there is no way you can tell me a guitar like the Zakk Wylde Les Paul for example at $5k is that much better than the epiphone at $800.

The only factory guitar I have that I liked the wiring on was my Peavey Wolfgang. Thick, shielded wiring throughout, shrink tubing over where solder connections are made, Switchcraft pots, jacks, and switches. No complaints there.

[Nitro Express]

I have a Epiphone SG-400. I paid $270 for it and for what it is, it's a good looking playable guitar but I like my Wolfgangs and Strats better. I rarely play it.

The switch never worked right. The pots haven't gone scratchy. The stock pickups are ones I can live with.

I heard Epiphones have different dimensions in the hardware dept. than real Gibsons. I know the switch hole on the Epis is metric.

It gets the Angus and Pete Townsend sounds. If I break the neck off, I'm out less money than a $5,000 Custom Shop deal.

[Igosplut]

Boy,did I ever fuck up!
Especially the last one.
I married the one with the biggest tits.

Yep, that one never worked for me either....

[Igosplut]

I think I can understand all the things specified by LaungedMachine but I can't understand about the pen and ink. It says never dig the pen into the company ink, but why. What is the reason behind that, I want to know that. So please solve my doubt.

Why don't you fucking clowns take on LM without all the aliases?? What's the point??