Biden: "(The Administration) believes Iraq is lost!"

[Lqskdiver]

Boston Globe NOT liberal....I think you better get your head out of you ass.

Back on topic, I guess your whole outlook is we just pull the whole damn military and let the region sort their shit out, huh? Let me know if that is case or if you have other bright ideas.

As for, Casey, you still are only speculating. Like I stated, he did oppose more troops. But eventually changed his opinion. That is everyone's entitlement. But to spout out that the reason he is being replaced is because he didn't follow the trend is horseshit....and UNPROVABLE...but beside the whole point of this argument.

Give me your thoughts on what would resolve the conflct, Sun Tzu and I might take you seriously.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
FORD, are you talking out of your ass yet again?

Joe Biden's off the radar screen. Nobody cares if he runs for president. He's right after Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton on the list of 'hardly cares'.

Don't forget George Allen

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Boston Globe NOT liberal....I think you better get your head out of you ass.

They're considered moderately right of center, which makes them flaming liberals to mindless, blathering chuckeheads such as thou...

Back on topic, I guess your whole outlook is we just pull the whole damn military and let the region sort their shit out, huh? Let me know if that is case or if you have other bright ideas.

When did I say pull the whole military out? And since when has it been the US military's job to solve other nation's problems? When have they ever been good at it?

As for, Casey, you still are only speculating.

LOL Are you really this dumb? I suppose Rumsfled resigned right after the elections because he felt it was time to play more golf?

Like I stated, he did oppose more troops. But eventually changed his opinion. That is everyone's entitlement. But to spout out that the reason he is being replaced is because he didn't follow the trend is horseshit....and UNPROVABLE...but beside the whole point of this argument.

Really? When did Casey ever support more troops?

Give me your thoughts on what would resolve the conflct, Sun Tzu and I might take you seriously.

Well, you could start by not electing total retards just because they happen to be Republican. Then realize that Shiites and Sunnis need to "sort it out amongst themselves."

And I've posted my opinion on this before, so I'm a bit tired of doing it over and over. Maybe you can Google/search "Peter Galbraith" and figure out where I'm coming from. Or read the executive summary of The Iraq Study Group...

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Lqskdiver

However, Keane said Biden's statements were "based on ignorance."

"You're telling me that there's a capital city in the world that the foremost military in the world cannot secure the population in a given city?" Keane said on "GMA." "That's just rubbish."
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This fucking idiot made general? Maybe that's part of the problem.

There are almost no capital cities any army can secure long term if the population is against you. At least not without slaughtering them.

Maybe the capital of Iceland or something with a population of 100 000 but beyond that...?


You can't secure a hostile city in a hostile land without totalitarianism, murder and fear. Maybe he wants to run Bagdhad like the Nazi's ran Warsaw?


Cheers!

[The Truth]

Originally posted by Warham
FORD, are you talking out of your ass yet again?

.

You're certainly one to talk

[The Truth]

Originally posted by Seshmeister



Maybe he wants to run Bagdhad like the Nazi's ran Warsaw?

Bill O'Reilly said HE'D run it like Saddam did.

[Warham]

No newspaper in Boston is right of anything, let alone center.

If they endorsed Deval Patrick, you know they aren't anything but liberal.

[Lqskdiver]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh


Really? When did Casey ever support more troops?

Casey

Here's link, but I suppose you're gonna chalk it up to pressure.

The Iraqi Study had some recommendations, but they themselves admitted it was no "magic bullet" to resolving the conflict.

Shiites and Sunnis will never "sort it out" unless a different concept such as democracy is introduced into this region. I don't expect anything to happen overnight. But it will take sometime.

[FORD]

Funny how all the generals who have told the BCE how fucking crazy they were are now "retired", isn't it.

Hell, I'd guess more generals had retired from the military this decade than any other time in history. Not that I can blame them.

[LoungeMachine]

Powell, Franks, Shinseki....

Even in the beginning those who knew the truth saw the writing on the walls....

This war was lost before it begun.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Lqskdiver



Shiites and Sunnis will never "sort it out" unless a different concept such as democracy is introduced into this region. I don't expect anything to happen overnight. But it will take sometime.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Never.

Unless.

democracy introduced.

overnight.

sometime.



jesus

[Lqskdiver]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Never.

Unless.

democracy introduced.

overnight.

sometime.



jesus

right back at ya

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Lqskdiver
right back at ya

Oh?

Have I tried to justify the continued slaughter of American Servicemen and women for LIES, OIL, and GREED?

You just seem to be one of the more intelligent NeoCon Shitbags to have come through here.

I'm fucking SHOCKED you of all people can still manage to try and spin this war as anyhting but what it is.

Utter and complete failure based on lies which changed by the year.

[Lqskdiver]

I don't recall trying to spin it into anything. I admit that it's a fucking mess over there. I just wasn't sure what you meant by your post.

I am a firm believer that by introducing democracy into a region once devoid of it can only make it better. This country as well as those who participate in it is solid proof.

But dwelling on the past decisions does not help the future. Securing the area while training the Iraqi militia is priority number one. Only then can we get the fuck out of there.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
No newspaper in Boston is right of anything, let alone center.

If they endorsed Deval Patrick, you know they aren't anything but liberal.

I said they were center...