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    I'd like to see that line up over here too.

    Down are so good it's not even true....
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    I think its brave of Iommi an co to take Motorhead on tour with them.

    They haven't played together for years, is there a danger that they could get shown up by the mighty 'Head on the early dates of the tour?

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    Originally posted by binnie
    I think its brave of Iommi an co to take Motorhead on tour with them.

    They haven't played together for years, is there a danger that they could get shown up by the mighty 'Head on the early dates of the tour?
    Interesting for you to say that.

    I went out to see a Sabbath/Motorhead/Tiamat lineup here in Portland back in '95...Forbidden tour...

    Tiamat's first song was REALLY fucking good (they were out on their Wildhoney stretch at the time), but the rest of it was kinda lame...

    Motorhead was FUCKING LOUD...seriously, my ears just fuckin' HURT for a week afterwards...but it was MIGHTY...

    Sabbath came out and played loud, but reserved by comparison - and it was just perfect after the sonic assault I'd just received thanks to Lemmy, Phil and Mikk...

    Motorhead and Sabbath again?

    SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!

    And Down is going to be SOOOOOOO more fun than what Tiamat was...

    Christ, it's a stoners fucking wet dream of a concert...lmao
    Twistin' by the pool.

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    Originally posted by bueno bob


    Christ, it's a stoners fucking wet dream of a concert...lmao
    Damn right, that's why I hope they bring that tour over here.

    Although Motorhead can fill most of the 2000-3000 seaters over here on their own, so unless they want an arena tour I don't see it happening.

    And without the "Black Sabbath" name, can't see them getting an arena tour.

    That being said, I'll go see Heaven and Hell regardless of the line-up!

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    I'd think with Down, Motorhead, and a Dio fronted Sabbath (regardless of what it's billed as), they could do some pretty good outdoor business...

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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    I'd think with Down, Motorhead, and a Dio fronted Sabbath (regardless of what it's billed as), they could do some pretty good outdoor business...
    Maybe in the States, but not here.

    Black Sabbath without Ozzy would only appeal to a very limited audience here. In fact, sad as it is, I asked everybody I worked with who Dio was, I bet there isn't one of the who would know.

    Over here I see Heaven and Hell doing the big clubs 3,000+ capacity. Suits me fine, that music will be killer in an intimate venue...

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    Maybe you work with a bunch of queers...

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Maybe you work with a bunch of queers...
    They certainly have music tastes which suggest so.....

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    I am gonna try to get tix to the NYC show. Their supposed official US tour is not until August or September, and if they have some kind of blowup, that might not happen.

    So I wanna see them as soon as possible.



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    I hope they at least make a pit stop to take a leak here.
    Dio/Sabbath are a dream concert. I know here there are a crowd of 2500 - 3000 fans that will pay anyprice to see them........but maybe that isn't enough for a producer to take the tour here...
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    Looks like Montreal for me. They ought to add an Ottawa show!!!
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    I have a friend who is scheming on how to afford to go to two Canada shows.

    Argh.

    I hope I get to see them. If not in NYC, then later in the year.

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    Hardrock...From what I read at Hardradio.com, there will be a show in Ottawa as well. So East -Canadian shows in Quebec City, Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto on the first leg.

    Sabbath has always loved Canada, and vice-versa....

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    Perhaps Winnipeg as well!
    We have a brand new arena here Called the MTS Center. It's been attracting some major shows in the last year with great crowds.

    Binnie, where is "There" anyway??

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    I'll be at the DETROIT show.....

    DETROIT has always supported SABBATH...& MOTORHEAD

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    Originally posted by Matt White
    I'll be at the DETROIT show.....

    DETROIT has always supported SABBATH...& MOTORHEAD
    Fuck, man...if they don't hit MY neck of the woods, I'm sure my Aunt wouldn't be opposed to me flying up there...and taking a night off to come visit...


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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    Fuck, man...if they don't hit MY neck of the woods, I'm sure my Aunt wouldn't be opposed to me flying up there...and taking a night off to come visit...

    It'd be worth it, I mean it'll probably be the last time they tour...

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    Recently confirmed -

    DIO/SABBATH material ONLY...no War Pigs or Iron Man for the 9,435,734,957,395th time...

    OK by me!

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    Wow...here comes a slew of information...

    HEAVEN AND HELL members Ronnie James Dio (DIO, BLACK SABBATH, RAINBOW) and Geezer Butler (BLACK SABBATH) were interviewed by radio personality/VH1 Classic VJ Eddie Trunk on his "Friday Night Rocks" radio show on New York's Q104.3 FM last night (Friday, January 19). According to Joe Siegler of the BLACK SABBATH fan site Black-Sabbath.com, the following topics/points were covered on the show:

    * The first U.S. gig for the HEAVEN AND HELL tour will be March 30 at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. There will be no opening act for this show; it's just HEAVEN AND HELL. The band is expected to play an extra-long set at this concert. Tickets are priced between $54.00 and $74.00 and go on sale Friday, January 26 at 10:00 a.m.

    * There will be other U.S. dates, but not before August. No further information is currently available on which cities they might hit.

    * After the Canadian tour and the New York City date, HEAVEN AND HELL will play South America before heading over to Europe for the summer festival run. A full U.S. tour will take place in August, to be followed by U.K., Japan and Australia.

    * Both Geezer and Ronnie said that it is pretty likely there will be no Ozzy-era tracks played during the HEAVEN AND HELL shows. The setlist will consist exclusively of material off the "Heaven And Hell", "Mob Rules" and "Dehumanizer" albums, plus the three new songs written and recorded for the upcoming compilation CD, "Black Sabbath: The Dio Years".

    * Tour rehearsals start roughly two weeks from now.

    * "Black Sabbath: The Dio Years" will be released April 3 through Rhino.

    * All three newly recorded tracks ("Shadow of the Wind", "Devil Cries" and "Ear in the Wall") will be on the "Black Sabbath: The Dio Years" album. It was previously reported that only two of the songs would make the final cut, but Geezer confirmed that all three will now be included on the collection.

    * There are no keyboards on the newly recorded tracks.

    * Keyboards on the HEAVEN AND HELL tour will be handled by Scott Warren from the DIO band.

    * Geezer did not contribute to the songwriting for any of the three new songs, and neither did Bill Ward and Vinny Appice; these tracks were written by Tony and Ronnie. Side note: DIO bassist Rudy Sarzo said in a recent interview that two of the three new SABBATH tracks contain ideas Ronnie had put forth for the next DIO album, but which ended up being used for the SABBATH collection instead.

    * According to Ronnie, this was never intended to be a full-fledged reunion when it started; it was only supposed to result in a couple of new tracks being written and recorded for the upcoming compilation. He did say, however, that the opportunity to dust off the old Dio-era SABBATH tracks in a live environment was too great to pass up. Finally, he said that history has shown they can't plan too far ahead for this, and that they do not intend at this point to carry on past the tour. However, he left open the possibility for further activity once they have fulfilled their touring obligations.

    * Part of the reason this project is being called HEAVEN AND HELL and not BLACK SABBATH is that they all felt that the original SABBATH (with Ozzy Osbourne) has been "back together" for awhile now, and since they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with that lineup, they wanted to avoid any confusion and decided to call this something else instead.

    * Ronnie said that after the HEAVEN AND HELL touring cycle is finished, he will go back into the studio with DIO to record "Magica II" and "III" and then tour "with a stage show worthy of the story."

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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    * Ronnie said that after the HEAVEN AND HELL touring cycle is finished, he will go back into the studio with DIO to record "Magica II" and "III" and then tour "with a stage show worthy of the story."
    I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO hope that means he's going to slay the dragon again!!!!!!!

    I'll admit it - I miss Dio's grand stage spectacles!

    Man...I fucking LOVE this guy!! Ronnie never disappoints, every time I turn around I hear more and more good news!!

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    On Wednesday, January 17, Artisan News conducted a short interview with legendary heavy metal singer Ronnie James Dio about HEAVEN AND HELL — the new band featuring Dio alongside original BLACK SABBATH members Iommi and Geezer Butler, plus drummer Vinny Appice (DIO, BLACK SABBATH).

    On the name HEAVEN AND HELL:

    Ronnie : "They're gonna call us SABBATH anyway. It doesn't really matter. We can call it HEAVEN AND HELL or the BOYS ON THE BLOCK. It doesn't matter. That's what we were, that's what we always will be. I think they're trying to make a definitive line between them being inducted into the Hall Of Fame. It kind of ended that era again. They've been doing Ozzfest for the last four or five years. So now it's something a bit more fresh. It's still the same band we were when we were SABBATH with Ronnie Dio. We're back again. The name doesn't matter really. Everyone's still gonna think it's just what we were, SABBATH with Ronnie."

    On whether it was good to work with his old SABBATH mates:

    Ronnie : "Absolutely. Absolutely, it's gonna be a joy. They're such monsters, and they're such bashers. From Vinny to Tony to Geezer and to me, we only think about one thing, 'Check this out!,' but then we do the nice thing like 'Children of the Sea' and 'Sign of the Southern Cross'. It's gonna be a great show with songs that people deserve to hear again and we deserve to play again."

    ***

    I do have to say, BOYS ON THE BLOCK would be kinda funny...


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    I'm getting pretty excited about this tour now (although clearly not as excited as you Bob).

    Festivals this summer look pretty good to me...

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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    On Wednesday, January 17, Artisan News conducted a short interview with legendary heavy metal singer Ronnie James Dio about HEAVEN AND HELL — the new band featuring Dio alongside original BLACK SABBATH members Iommi and Geezer Butler, plus drummer Vinny Appice (DIO, BLACK SABBATH).

    On the name HEAVEN AND HELL:

    Ronnie : "They're gonna call us SABBATH anyway. It doesn't really matter. We can call it HEAVEN AND HELL or the BOYS ON THE BLOCK. It doesn't matter. That's what we were, that's what we always will be. I think they're trying to make a definitive line between them being inducted into the Hall Of Fame. It kind of ended that era again. They've been doing Ozzfest for the last four or five years. So now it's something a bit more fresh. It's still the same band we were when we were SABBATH with Ronnie Dio. We're back again. The name doesn't matter really. Everyone's still gonna think it's just what we were, SABBATH with Ronnie."

    On whether it was good to work with his old SABBATH mates:

    Ronnie : "Absolutely. Absolutely, it's gonna be a joy. They're such monsters, and they're such bashers. From Vinny to Tony to Geezer and to me, we only think about one thing, 'Check this out!,' but then we do the nice thing like 'Children of the Sea' and 'Sign of the Southern Cross'. It's gonna be a great show with songs that people deserve to hear again and we deserve to play again."

    ***

    I do have to say, BOYS ON THE BLOCK would be kinda funny...

    Ronnie is right -- music fans alike will still refer to them as Sabbath (with Dio).

    Boys on the Block tour!

    Granted, the name 'Black Sabbath' in itself would sell more tix -- but who cares.

    THIS show will fucking rock!
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    I'm waiting for the final dates to be release.
    I will see them even if I have to fly to Iraq to see them

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    Well, looks like Radio City Music Hall might be it for me.

    I am not EVEN counting on them making it to the states for the US Tour.

    As far as that goes, though...they are all professionals, and even though they were pissed off at each other by the end of the Dehumanizer Tour, they still did finish the tour (except for the final 2 nights at Costa Mesa).

    So....we will see.

    I am still gonna try for tix to RCMH in NYC.

    My bufday is that Sunday, so we will see how it goes....

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    Just give me the box set and new live dvd!

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    Well people, put together your set lists for HEAVEN AND HELL!!!

    (now that its been confirmed that there will be no Ozzy-era Sabbath tunes played).

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    The first two Dio/Sabbath albums and computer from #3! Maybe some new tracks!

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    For those in the Ottawa area, here's the official release we've been waiting for. They list Megadeth and Down as the opening acts.

    Heaven & Hell tour 2007
    When: March 28, 2007
    Where: Ottawa Civic Centre
    Heaven and Hell, reuniting Ronnie James Dio with Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, and Vinny Appice for the first time in 15 years.Opening acts that night will be Megadeth and Down (featuring members of Pantera).

    These heavy metal legends hit the Civic Centre on March 28th. Tickets go on-sale Friday, Jan 26th @ 10AM through all ticketmaster outlets (Ticketmaster booths, (613)755-1111, ticketmaster.ca)

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    Megadeth???

    I thought Motorhead was on the bill...? :confused:

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    Ahhh...well, that explains that, I guess...

    Was looking forward to Motorhead, too...


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    Dammit!!!!

    I hate Megadeth. And Phil Anselmo is a lame, loser, drug & alcohol-infested asshole.

    I am not so sure I wanna go to NY now....

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    www.heavenandhelllive.com

    --the full website should be coming soon!

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    Originally posted by Hardrock69
    And Phil Anselmo is a lame, loser, drug & alcohol-infested asshole.
    True enough, but I love his music...

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    Not looking forward to Megadeth, though...

    Think they'll play their versions of Paranoid or Never Say Die?

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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    Not looking forward to Megadeth, though...

    Think they'll play their versions of Paranoid or Never Say Die?


    Speaking of the Ozzy stuff, do you think the reunited Dio lineup (even though they're not calling themselves Sabbath) can get away with not playing at least 1 Sab-Oz tune?

    To me, I'd be happy with a complete Dio-Sabbath set list (cause the stuff flat out rocks!) -- but what about some casual rock fans?

    Maybe if they do at least two songs (say Children of the Grave and NIB, that wouldn't be too bad as opposed to doing Paranoid and Iron Man).

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    Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet


    Speaking of the Ozzy stuff, do you think the reunited Dio lineup (even though they're not calling themselves Sabbath) can get away with not playing at least 1 Sab-Oz tune?

    To me, I'd be happy with a complete Dio-Sabbath set list (cause the stuff flat out rocks!) -- but what about some casual rock fans?

    Maybe if they do at least two songs (say Children of the Grave and NIB, that wouldn't be too bad as opposed to doing Paranoid and Iron Man).
    Hard telling. Ronnie and Geezer have said it's pretty much 100% that it's going to be Dio era material only...which is fine with me...

    BUT -

    If you listen to "Live Evil" or even "Cross Purposes: Live", towards the end of "Paranoid" on both albums, they bust into "Heaven and Hell" briefly. Maybe they'll twist it around a bit and throw "Paranoid" in at the end of "Heaven and Hell"?

    Could be...

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    I've seen Motorhead twice and never seen Megadeth, so I'm kinda happy about this.

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    Megadeth for me ended with Mustaine/Friedman/Ellefson/Menza...haven't paid any attention since that came to an end...

    Guess we'll see...

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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    Megadeth for me ended with Mustaine/Friedman/Ellefson/Menza...haven't paid any attention since that came to an end...
    Me too. I gave the stuff after Junior left a shot but I didn't dig it that much. It's just not the same vibe.
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