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    YES!

    That is the official cover art!

    Track listing is as follows:

    01. Neon Knights
    02. Lady Evil
    03. Heaven And Hell
    04. Die Young
    05. Lonely Is The Word
    06. The Mob Rules
    07. Turn Up The Night
    08. Voodoo
    09. Falling Off The Edge Of The World
    10. After All (The Dead)
    11. TV Crimes
    12. I
    13. Children Of The Sea - Live
    14. The Devil Cried
    15. Shadow Of The Wind
    16. Ear In The Wall
    Twistin' by the pool.

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    Wondering where "Time Machine" and "Buried Alive" are at...???

    Doesn't matter, really, I already own all of it and have for years...only reason I'm buying it at all is for the new songs, to give Tony Iommi and Ronnie James my money (which they richly deserve), and to see the liner notes and pretty pictures...

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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    Wondering where "Time Machine" and "Buried Alive" are at...???

    Doesn't matter, really, I already own all of it and have for years...only reason I'm buying it at all is for the new songs, to give Tony Iommi and Ronnie James my money (which they richly deserve), and to see the liner notes and pretty pictures...

    Same here actaully, although I'm pretty sure neither Dio or Iommi need our money...
    The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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    Well, they're worth MORE of our money, at any rate...

    Greatest metal vocalist ever...greatest metal guitarist ever...

    'nuff said!

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    This is GRATE news.

    Crack open the salad!!!
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    *tooooke toooke tookke*

    Ahhhhhh...

    *passes the salad to Shaun*.

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    HUZZAH!

    Now, lets play that GRATE album "Kool and the Gang sing Black Sabbath featuring special guests Ronnie Dio and Tony Iommi"

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    Originally posted by binnie
    Y'know, I don't think I know of anyone who actively dislikes Dio....

    A metal trooper...
    ME! There's only one vocalist for BLACK FUCKIN SABBATH and thats Mr Ozzy Osbourne! And Rainbow sucked major big time
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    Originally posted by Atomic_Rob
    ME! There's only one vocalist for BLACK FUCKIN SABBATH and thats Mr Ozzy Osbourne!
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Sure, Ozzy was bad ass up until 1989 or so. Problem being he hasn't been worth a FUCK since then. The clown prince of blown out, burned out, drug-addled derelict washed-up uselessness on stage. Christ, even REO Speedwagon is a better stage act than he is anymore.

    You ever stop to wonder why Tony looked PAINED in so much Ozzfest footage over the last few years?

    Quite frankly, Ronnie James Dio was and IS the most talented vocalist and lyricist that Tony Iommi has EVER worked with from day one. Dio is just as much a part of Sabbath as Ozzy is...at the end of the day, Black Sabbath is TONY IOMMI and whoever the fuck he wants to put up there, period.

    Originally posted by Atomic_Rob
    And Rainbow sucked major big time
    Which basically deflates anything else you have to say on the subject from here on out.

    Last edited by bueno bob; 02-17-2007 at 02:55 AM.

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    Originally posted by bueno bob


    Which basically deflates anything else you have to say on the subject from here on out.

    You beat me to it bob...

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    I'd say Ozzy was still pretty decent up to 2000 or so (maybe not on record, but as stage performer)

    I saw him in '98 and he was still amaing...

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    Originally posted by binnie
    I'd say Ozzy was still pretty decent up to 2000 or so (maybe not on record, but as stage performer)

    I saw him in '98 and he was still amaing...
    For me, at least, every time I heard him post '93 or thereabouts his voice just sounded worse and worse each time out...forgetting lyrics, bumbling around, etc. Each year it seemed to get worse and I kept thinking, "Fuck, at least Dio still cuts the mustard"...

    Studio wise, after Ozzy yanked all control from Bob Daisley and put the songs and lyrics into the hands of his writing team, it just went downhill...I thought "No More Tears" was right on par with Metallica's black album in the sellout department..."Ozzmosis" was a wee bit better, but "Down to Earth" was the biggest pukefest of the year...

    Ozzy ended in '89 for me...I was hoping he'd do something really awesome with Black Sabbath in '98, but the two new songs weren't good at all - I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that a new Ozzy/Sabbath album will never happen...

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    Record wise, definately down-hill from "No More Tears", although I fucking hate Ozzmosis and thought Down to Earth had some good moments, but I'm splitting hairs now...

    On a different note, I can see why people think Metallica's Black album was a "sell out", but it's still a fantastic record, and a lot of metal bands would give their left nuts to come close to (many have been doing, ever since). It was definately a change of direction, and there's no doubt that they've always wanted to be successful and sell records (no crime in my book), but that record took a heavier form of metal into a lot of households: if it wasn't for that then a lot of subsequently really heavy bands would never have had the success that they have had.

    Anyhow Bob, I'm glad we agree that Dio is the mutt's nuts. I only wish that he got the credit he deserved from the younger generation; not to take anything away from Ozzy's revivial, it is well deserved, but Dio-era Sabbs deserves a place in metal history that most modern metal mags and media do not give it...

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    Originally posted by binnie
    Anyhow Bob, I'm glad we agree that Dio is the mutt's nuts. I only wish that he got the credit he deserved from the younger generation; not to take anything away from Ozzy's revivial, it is well deserved, but Dio-era Sabbs deserves a place in metal history that most modern metal mags and media do not give it...
    A FUCKING MEN BROTHER.

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    Originally posted by Atomic_Rob
    ME! There's only one vocalist for BLACK FUCKIN SABBATH and thats Mr Ozzy Osbourne! And Rainbow sucked major big time
    What???

    Ozzy is a washed-up has been who has to piss in a bag and have his dogs an cats clear it up (as opposed to the vice-versa method seen on that pile of SHITE The Osbournes, which, by the way, effectively ruined his career). Although, admittedly, I quite liked "No More Tears" (so fookin' what? I like "Turbo" by Judas Priest as well. Excuse me for not having too many musical limits) and "No Rest For The Wicked", most of his solo output without Randy Rhoads has been quite poor.

    Sabbath were a much more exciting band with Dio. Compare "Neon Knights" with "Black Sabbath".

    And Dio can still sing too. Better than most young folk.

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    I can't stand Ozzy's solo stuff, especially with Zakk Wylde and the fucking gay love in between those 2 in recent years.

    I just don't like Dio in anyway shape or form, classic rock magazine gave away a DVD with the mag with Ronnie playing Long Live Rock n Roll at the Astoria and it was absolutely horrendous, you say Ozzy is washed out, I couldnt understand a word Dio was singing.

    I checked out Kill the King on a free compilation also with CR and it was pure fucking cheese and it was recorded in 1976 with Richie Blackmore.

    Then again Rainbow only employed fag vocalists. Next reunion, Cherone.

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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby


    Sabbath were a much more exciting band with Dio. Compare "Neon Knights" with "Black Sabbath".

    Are you saying that you prefer Dio-era Sabbs to Ozzy-era?

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    Yes.

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    Originally posted by Atomic_Rob
    I can't stand Ozzy's solo stuff, especially with Zakk Wylde and the fucking gay love in between those 2 in recent years.

    I just don't like Dio in anyway shape or form, classic rock magazine gave away a DVD with the mag with Ronnie playing Long Live Rock n Roll at the Astoria and it was absolutely horrendous, you say Ozzy is washed out, I couldnt understand a word Dio was singing.

    I checked out Kill the King on a free compilation also with CR and it was pure fucking cheese and it was recorded in 1976 with Richie Blackmore.

    Then again Rainbow only employed fag vocalists. Next reunion, Cherone.

    Ah, well, wach to their own, I suppose
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    CR is an awesome mag, by the way.

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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
    Yes.
    Well, I could tell you why I think you're wrong, but I'm sure you've heard it all before....

    Like you said, each to their own....

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    I still like Ozzy-era stuff, but...

    1) I can't listen to Ozzy anymore because of what he's become, it's hard to take him seriously on those dark songs

    2) I find some of that stuff a bit dull. Heavy...but dull. ("bom...bom..bom" for 5 minutes?)

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    There is nothing Ozzy could do to stop me listening to Ozzy-era Sabbath, all the stupid things he done in the past, I just look over that and think of the person he used to be before he got married a second time and had those 2 cunts for children.

    The songs themselves are just magic, After Forever, Hole in the Sky, Symptom Of The Universe, Meglomania, Hand of Doom.

    Each to their own most definitely with Sabbath, everyone has their favourite era and I guess its time Iommi and Geezer moved on after a number of tours with Ozzy.

    Be nice to see Ozzy Sabbath again, they were just incredible at Download in 2005

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    Really? Every review I read said they were shite...or rather Ozzy's performance was. They didn't even vother to show them on TV.

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    Well just so long as no-one starts arguing the merits of Tony Martin...

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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
    Really? Every review I read said they were shite...or rather Ozzy's performance was. They didn't even vother to show them on TV.
    Phil Lynott summed it up nicely: DON'T BELIEVE A WORD

    Sharon didn't allow the show to be broadcast because it was apparently coming out as an official DVD that we've not heard of since Iommi dropped it into an interview just after the show.

    I've got a Pro-Shot DVD with soundboard audio and it absolutely owns.

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    Actually Ozzy's performance in the past few years has been shit. He sings off key, sounds like he's struggling sometimes. I have one show where you can't understand what he's saying he's mumbling so bad.

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    Any more word on the Heaven & Hell dates?

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    Originally posted by FantasyMan
    Actually Ozzy's performance in the past few years has been shit. He sings off key, sounds like he's struggling sometimes. I have one show where you can't understand what he's saying he's mumbling so bad.
    Its all down too opinions, I think hes been singing well, you don't.

    Opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one.

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    Or like the clap...you've either got one or you haven't.

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    Anyone heard anything about European dates yet?

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    Not yet.

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    Vinnie Appice has been letting it slide in interviews that they are gonna play more dates around the US in April-May.

    Now check this out.

    These guys are able to actually be professionals.

    Unlike spEd and his stoopid alcoholic bullshit.


    They get together, write some songs...and then decide to take it one step further, and they do.

    No "negotiations", no soap opera, no bullshit.

    Not only that, the one guy who actually did the drums on Heaven & Hell was invited to do the tour!

    THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE RESPECT AND KINDNESS ENOUGH TO ASK BILL WARD TO DO THE TOUR!!!

    But respect & kindness are two words that spEd forgot to learn as a child when he was learning English. And he has probably forgotten how to say those words in Dutch as well.

    Fucking asshole.


    Even though Bill Ward turned down the chance to go out and tour with H & H, they DID give him the opportunity.

    Tony Iommi and RJ Dio are a class act.

    If spEd could stop drinking long enough to pay attention to the real world, he might learn something.

    Fucking fool....

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    Hardrock, I couldn't agree with you more....

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    Here's some more breaking Sabbath news from hardradio.com:

    The live video for HEAVEN AND HELL's upcoming tour, will surface via Eagle Rock Entertainment in late 2007. Heaven And Hell features BLACK SABBATH guitarist Tony Iommi and bassist Geezer Butler, along with singer RONNIE JAMES DIO and drummer Vinny Appice. As previously reported, there will be not one, but two Dio-era Black Sabbath albums out this spring. The first is Black Sabbath: The Dio Years, a best-of that samples from the studio albums Dio recorded with Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hell in 1980, Mob Rules in 1981, and Dehumanizer in 1992. The album will also include three new songs, titled 'The Devil Cried', 'Shadow Of The Wind', and 'Ear In The Wall'. Black Sabbath: The Dio Years comes out April 3rd. In addition, there will be a live album from a December 1981 show in London on the Mob Rules tour. It's called Black Sabbath: Live At Hammersmith Odeon, and it contains 14 tracks from both Dio's and Osbourne's time in Sabbath. The album will be available May 1st through Rhino Handmade in a limited run of only 5,000 numbered copies at rhinohandmade.com.
    Stay Frosty, muthas!

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    Cheers Mr V!

    It's a bonus year for Dio-era Sabbs fans: tour, new material, vault footage!

    Hope the Van Halen's take note...

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    Only 5000 copies?

    Holy Christ, imagine the price for an original on ebay in a few years...whew...

    Well, I'm sure I'll be able to download a copy from somebody somewhere...

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    Bob, I'm sure you'd be able to get one of the 5000 if you really dedicate yourself to it....

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    Originally posted by Hardrock69
    Vinnie Appice has been letting it slide in interviews that they are gonna play more dates around the US in April-May.

    Now check this out.

    These guys are able to actually be professionals.

    Unlike spEd and his stoopid alcoholic bullshit.


    They get together, write some songs...and then decide to take it one step further, and they do.

    No "negotiations", no soap opera, no bullshit.

    Not only that, the one guy who actually did the drums on Heaven & Hell was invited to do the tour!

    THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE RESPECT AND KINDNESS ENOUGH TO ASK BILL WARD TO DO THE TOUR!!!

    But respect & kindness are two words that spEd forgot to learn as a child when he was learning English. And he has probably forgotten how to say those words in Dutch as well.

    Fucking asshole.


    Even though Bill Ward turned down the chance to go out and tour with H & H, they DID give him the opportunity.

    Tony Iommi and RJ Dio are a class act.

    If spEd could stop drinking long enough to pay attention to the real world, he might learn something.

    Fucking fool....
    Absolutely couldn't agree more.

    Ronnie, Tony, Geezer and Vinny are showing Van Halen everything to do and Van Halen's doing everything wrong.

    This is how you know a band cares about it's fanbase and respects them enough to put their own shit aside and treat them (the fans) well.

    Van Halen, really, couldn't give a fucking whit about any of it's fan base, apparently.

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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    Van Halen, really, couldn't give a fucking whit about any of it's fan base, apparently.
    Correction -- EDDIE doesn't care.

    Dave has always cared.

    Who cares what Alice thinks.

    Anyhow, back to HEAVEN AND HELL!!!!

    Yes, these guys are the consumate professionals. I think its going to be a hell of a show.

    And Dio's still got the pipes -- I saw some stuff from his 2006 shows and he's still got it!
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    So is anyone seeing this tour before the Ottawa show on March 28th? Or will I be the first to deliver the review to the Army?

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