Libby is GUILTY except for one count (Count 3)

[Warham]

There was no crime prior to this investigation because Richard 'Dick' Armitage admitted he leaked Valerie Plame's name, yet wasn't brought before the grand jury and wasn't indicted. Period. The Justice Department knew that a crime wasn't committed, yet they set up a Special Prosecutor to go bag somebody, ie, Scooter Libby, who could only be indicted for a faulty memory. They knew MONTHS before Fitzgerald came on the scene that there was no crime committed.

Now, you've got jurors saying after the conviction that they wished Karl Rove or Dick Cheney were there, and that they felt sorry for Libby, and felt he had a faulty memory. They took 10 days to deliberate and STILL had to ask the judge on the 9th day what they were trying to convict Libby of!

Can you say appeal?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine


Jesus fucking Christ.

Fucking moron.

Damn dude, if you even knew how the CIA, or any other operation like it operated, you may be able to figure it out.

I'm betting you can't, though.

[Warham]

Originally posted by FORD
If it's "not true", then why did the NEOCON WHORE Bob Novak make a point of printing in his article that Valerie Plame worked for a CIA false front known as "Brewster Jennings"?

A Langley desk jockey (as your FAUX and hate radio heroes claim Plame was) would not need to hide behind a so called "brass plate company".

So called "liberals" didn't bring the name Brewster Jennings into this. Bob Novak did.

Maybe you neocon shitbags need to pick a story and stick to it?

Bob Novak just said on TV ten minutes ago that Plame wasn't covert!

[Warham]

This doesn't even take into account that Joseph Wilson's story was discredited by the Senate Committee that looked into the whole matter.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
Bob Novak just said on TV ten minutes ago that Plame wasn't covert!

Then he's now contradicting himself. Which makes him a liar. Not that we didn't already know that.

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by Warham
This doesn't even take into account that BushCo's story was discredited by Joseph Wilson who looked into the whole matter.

Now you make sense.

[Warham]

Originally posted by FORD
Then he's now contradicting himself. Which makes him a liar. Not that we didn't already know that.

Well, good, if everyone's a liar, then why is Libby up for 25 years?

Joe Wilson's a liar. Bob Lovak is a liar. Who else?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
Then he's now contradicting himself. Which makes him a liar. Not that we didn't already know that.

"My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity." - Joe Wilson, interviewed by Wolf Blitzer from CNN, July 14, 2005

Link

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
There was no crime prior to this investigation because Richard 'Dick' Armitage admitted he leaked Valerie Plame's name, yet wasn't brought before the grand jury and wasn't indicted. Period. The Justice Department knew that a crime wasn't committed, yet they set up a Special Prosecutor to go bag somebody, ie, Scooter Libby, who could only be indicted for a faulty memory. They knew MONTHS before Fitzgerald came on the scene that there was no crime committed.

Now, you've got jurors saying after the conviction that they wished Karl Rove or Dick Cheney were there, and that they felt sorry for Libby, and felt he had a faulty memory. They took 10 days to deliberate and STILL had to ask the judge on the 9th day what they were trying to convict Libby of!

Can you say appeal?

What's that about?

He's not guilty because you say so?

Oh, okay...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
"My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity." - Joe Wilson, interviewed by Wolf Blitzer from CNN, July 14, 2005

Link

Why don't you post the whole interview, dicklick?

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
What's that about?

He's not guilty because you say so?

Oh, okay...

Why wasn't Armitage brought before the grand jury?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Why don't you post the whole interview, dicklick?

Call it up yourself, you lazy bastard. I even gave you slow people the link.

[Warham]

There was no crime committed before the investigation, so Fitzgerald had to make sure there was one committed during the investigation.

Libby couldn't remember what he had lunch with the day before or what the hell he said, so they'll bag him for 25 years.

[Nickdfresh]

This post is for the dummy cons spewing mindless attempts at semantic befuddlement:

The Big Lie About Valerie Plame


By Larry Johnson | bio
The misinformation being spread in the media about the Plame affair is alarming and damaging to the longterm security interests of the United States. Republicans' talking points are trying to savage Joe Wilson and, by implication, his wife, Valerie Plame as liars. That is the truly big lie.

For starters, Valerie Plame was an undercover operations officer until outed in the press by Robert Novak. Novak's column was not an isolated attack. It was in fact part of a coordinated, orchestrated smear that we now know includes at least Karl Rove.

Valerie Plame was a classmate of mine from the day she started with the CIA. I entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985. All of my classmates were undercover--in other words, we told our family and friends that we were working for other overt U.S. Government agencies. We had official cover. That means we had a black passport--i.e., a diplomatic passport. If we were caught overseas engaged in espionage activity the black passport was a get out of jail free card.

A few of my classmates, and Valerie was one of these, became a non-official cover officer. That meant she agreed to operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. If caught in that status she would have been executed.
The lies by people like Victoria Toensing, Representative Peter King, and P. J. O'Rourke insist that Valerie was nothing, just a desk jockey. Yet, until Robert Novak betrayed her she was still undercover and the company that was her front was still a secret to the world. When Novak outed Valerie he also compromised her company and every individual overseas who had been in contact with that company and with her.

The Republicans now want to hide behind the legalism that "no laws were broken". I don't know if a man made law was broken but an ethical and moral code was breached. For the first time a group of partisan political operatives publically identified a CIA NOC. They have set a precendent that the next group of political hacks may feel free to violate.

They try to hide behind the specious claim that Joe Wilson "lied". Although Joe did not lie let's follow that reasoning to the logical conclusion. Let's use the same standard for the Bush Administration. Here are the facts. Bush's lies have resulted in the deaths of almost 1800 American soldiers and the mutilation of 12,000. Joe Wilson has not killed anyone. He tried to prevent the needless death of Americans and the loss of American prestige in the world.

But don't take my word for it, read the biased Senate intelligence committee report. Even though it was slanted to try to portray Joe in the worst possible light this fact emerges on page 52 of the report: According to the US Ambassador to Niger (who was commenting on Joe's visit in February 2002), "Ambassador Wilson reached the same conclusion that the Embassy has reached that it was highly unlikely that anything between Iraq and Niger was going on." Joe's findings were consistent with those of the Deputy Commander of the European Command, Major General Fulford.

The Republicans insist on the lie that Val got her husband the job. She did not. She was not a division director, instead she was the equivalent of an Army major. Yes it is true she recommended her husband to do the job that needed to be done but the decision to send Joe Wilson on this mission was made by her bosses.

At the end of the day, Joe Wilson was right. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It was the Bush Administration that pushed that lie and because of that lie Americans are dying. Shame on those who continue to slander Joe Wilson while giving Bush and his pack of liars a pass. That's the true outrage.
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Jul 12, 2005 -- 11:47 PM EST |

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[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Warham
There was no crime committed before the investigation, so Fitzgerald had to make sure there was one committed during the investigation.

Libby couldn't remember what he had lunch with the day before or what the hell he said, so they'll bag him for 25 years.

True, true.

He'll be pardoned, though.

Until then, if he does do time, it'll be in a low-security Club Med type of facility. He'll get plenty of tennis time with leave on the weekends.