Hey LostID,Originally posted by lostid
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F internet forum lurkers
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I surely hope this wasn't aimed at me, was it ?
Maggi
Hey LostID,Originally posted by lostid
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F internet forum lurkers
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I surely hope this wasn't aimed at me, was it ?
Maggi
Yeah!!!!Originally posted by Halen High
Same here mate!
Anyway look at this from another perspective......EVH's, AVH's and DLR's non-attendance is just another example of PURE ROCK N" ROLL REBELLION!
God I love CVH.
Now all we need is a press release full of urine and feces references a la "The Sex Pistols" and it will be perfect!!
Originally posted by perilouspete
fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.
Seriously...a sound plan would be:
1. Dry Ed out
2. Roll out a new album
3. Tour in support of said new album later this year or in '08.
This place is all the better for having you post.Originally posted by Maggi
Holy misconceptional delusion, Batman !!!
I really tried to ignore your ramblings, but I only made it to page #7 before I couldn't resist to tell you a secret:
Real women enjoy p0rn as much as men do !
Most likely because not only they enjoy the steamy action of beautiful bodies, but also because they know that watching p0rn while having sexual contact will help making their male couterpart stay hard and cum a third and fourth time within an hour, without having to exhaust their mandibles or doing other exhausting excersizes.
Didn't anybody ever tell you that sex is not exclusively meant for reproduction ???
As others suggested, hide behind your bible, go back to church, pray to the lord that he shall forgive all our lost souls or whatever fits your boat, but refrain from playing a morality preacher on this board.
Thanks for your attention.
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As for the actual status quo on VH & DLR, I'm a long time lurker and very rare poster, but I came here today, because I found this snippet on The Feed:
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/pos...Diamond_A.html
Which made me want to check back with you gusy'n'gals, who I wholeheartedly appreciate as being The Source for all Diamond stuff.
Having read all comment until page 7, I have very mixed feelings about it, but I surely hope it is a positive sign that Eddie's really getting his act together this time, in order to make this reunion real and permanent.
Roth on !
Maggi
Onya Maggi
"One mouthful of you will rot every tooth in my mouth you little sugar"
Again Dave shows he's in his own league.
It's also good that Ed and Al don't talk to press. I hope Ed gots better.
I feel something good will come out of this mess.
Fuck Gaygar an Hot Sauce. They shouldn't attend the ceremony. It's Van Halen, not Other Half being inducted!
Ed's been to rehab many times already. He was a regular at the Betty Ford Clinic going back to 1986.Originally posted by MAX
Being how I'm forever an optimist as a person, I hate eating crow and even more I hate siding with Kippy here but it's true.
I do wish EVH well but this timing is bullfuckingshit and he's been in and out of rehab as much as cocks have been in and out of any given porn star and she's (insert any given name) still a slut!!!
Seriously, it fucking hurts me cos I've been an optimistic fan for so many years. I don't know any other way?
All I know is Dave's the shit, a hero of mine and I wish him the best. I'm sick and fucking tired of EVH fucking everything up!!!
Would it have killed EVH to stay drunk for another week so this ceremony could've gone alright? Seriously, the guy's been in lala land for so many years, what fucking difference would a few more days make?
Selfish on my nehalf? Who cares?
Ed should've checked himself into rehab loooooooong before pulling on the fan's collective heartstrings. Absolutely ZERO sympathy here, except for Dave!!!
He's even tried to see a therapist in the 90s.
I agree -- the timing of this is really shitty.
But, it seems as if it was going to happen this way anyway. As soon as the band and the promoters realized that Ed was not well enough to tour -- the prospects of attending the Hall ceremony was in question as well.
=V V=
ole No.1 The finest
EAT US AND SMILE
Maybe 08 is the better way to go.
Afterall, it marks the 30th anniversary of the first album.
"I would like Van Halen fans to know how much I truly appreciate each and every one of you. "
fuck that, is there anyone shittier to their fans? yeah, like a battered housewife i will show up if he tours with roth (stop laughing!), but don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.
"Some of the issues surrounding the 2007 Van Halen tour are within my ability to change and some are not. As far as my rehab is concerned, it is within my ability to change and change for the better."
what are those "some are not" issues i wonder? something like dave wanting as much money as ed for the tour?
Thanx a lot Plexi Head ... feels good to get some apreciation.Originally posted by Plexi Head
This place is all the better for having you post.
Onya Maggi
Hugs !
Maggi
Ditto.Originally posted by fryingdutchman
Seriously...a sound plan would be:
1. Dry Ed out
2. Roll out a new album
3. Tour in support of said new album later this year or in '08.
This space for rent.
I just found an excellent commentary on the situation:
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.p...-the-building/
I very much agree with him, except for the M&Ms part, which I'd replace with rotten eggs and foul tomatoesDLR Not In The Building
Roth not allowed to perform at gala honoring the band
This business went in the crapper when the executives started believing they were bigger than the acts, that the audience was interested in THEM, not the performers.
And why be interested in the acts, they were just tools of the machine. Picked on their looks, singing the songs of hacks, the music lost its soul, its religion, its sense of theatre, its VAUDEVILLE HISTORY!
Van Halen was no James Cameron production, no slick artifice, it was just four guys from Pasadena working their way up from beer parties to the TOP, testing limits, getting better every step of the way.
We all agree Eddie Van Halen is a genius, but without David Lee Roth Van Halen never would have broken through. Sammy may have a better voice, I love "Best Of Both Worlds", but without DLR there IS NO Van Halen, no notice. A band without a frontman is…the NICE?
You need a singer, someone who can enrapture the audience, someone who can make the audience pay attention. That person in Van Halen’s case was David Lee Roth. Better David Lee Roth with ANYBODY behind him than ANYBODY in Velvet Revolver or Audioslave (is there a difference, aren’t both made up of has-beens who can’t work on their own?)
Stunningly, David Lee Roth can still work on his own. Granted, to an ever-dwindling audience. But people still want to be touched. Want to remember when they were in high school, and DIDN’T GIVE A FUCK! Van Halen was music for people enmeshed in the system who wanted a WAY OUT! That’s what music used to provide. Back when it was a culture of notes, not pricks with $5,000 suits and multiple assistants.
This is the last nail in the coffin for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. This is the final joke. When you don’t even let the INDUCTEES perform.
Why not? Because it’s on TELEVISION? Doesn’t that prove the point? That when you start worrying about the audience rather than the music you’ve lost the thread?
Back when Van Halen reigned, the ultimate goal was to get backstage. To hang with the band, whether male or female. It not only made your night, but maybe your life. To get that close. To the talented who played by their own rules.
That’s what the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony was. A private party. That the public LONGED to attend. Back when there was no question the inductees were legends.
An edited show for VH1 was bad enough. A live broadcast? Why? Is this any different from the Paris Hilton sex tape? A staged event, distributed for publicity?
The R&RHOF needs cash. It needs to perpetuate itself. When it’s the MUSIC that’s important, that will outlive this lame organization run by men and women who never had the adoration of tens of thousands of fans, who never held them in the palm of their hands, who never knew the POWER of being a star.
You can be rich, but that doesn’t make you a star.
And the biggest star amongst this year’s inductees has now been refused the right to perform at his own party. Isn’t that like not allowing the President to attend his own inauguration?
Let every table at the Waldorf-Astoria be adorned with a bowl of brown M&M’s. And when it comes time for Van Halen to be inducted, let everybody THROW THEM AT THE DAIS!
That’s the rock and roll spirit. Throwing out decorum, knowing that a big star plays by his OWN RULES!
If only the pricks who made this decision had one iota of David Lee Roth’s star power. If only they realized they’re what’s killing not only the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but the record business too.
If Michael Stipe had any balls he’d refuse to attend unless DLR could come and perform too. What, Paul Shaffer gets to play all these years but David Lee Roth CAN’T?
Cheers,
Maggi
Not true; I wore out your mother like an old pair of Nike's.Originally posted by halenfan25
You couldn't own a 2 dollar whore.
At least I got her to swallow...your dada should have done the same thing....
Is that why you insulted white women too? Saying that we're sluts? Trying to get over one, huh? Poor little boy.Originally posted by halenfan25
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I express my dislike for the band and it helps me get over them and move on.
Best thing she ever did was leave your stupid ass.
“Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding” ― Betty White
He's just a bitter little boy who got dumped by every white chick in his trailer park community, and he's bitter that his dada was an alcoholic.Originally posted by diamondsgirl
Is that why you insulted white women too? Saying that we're sluts? Trying to get over one, huh? Poor little boy.
Best thing she ever did was leave your stupid ass.
Then again, with a son like that, I would be an alcoholic too.
See...Eddie got his laptop and wrote a sweet letter!!
Soon he will make you all not worthy!
Ed is indisposed and working toward a better future here," Roth said. "If Ed ever dries up, this is going to be a stadium act, man
DLR says "if," not "when"...makes me wonder what he's witnessed since he was bhrought back into the band.
Easy.....he witnessed Ed not being able to play the CVH material anymore without screwing every song up or getting through a day without making an ass of himself and then he said to Ed, "there is no way we can tour or even prepare for a tour unless you dry out first".DLR says "if," not "when"...makes me wonder what he's witnessed since he was bhrought back into the band.
Yes, but things seemed to be going pretty well during December (Dave's first meeting with them) and then even when Dave jammed with them (January).Originally posted by PlexiBrown
Easy.....he witnessed Ed not being able to play the CVH material anymore without screwing every song up or getting through a day without making an ass of himself and then he said to Ed, "there is no way we can tour or even prepare for a tour unless you dry out first".
It was all looking very good.
However, Ed's problems most likely creeped up on him and maybe a subsequent rehearsal was a disaster because of it.
Originally posted by GreenBayLA
So it's the Eddie show and he ain't up to it. Real question: Is Eddie up to rehab?
Well I called this one right... Hope it clears up all the rumors/speculation out there that DLR was the problem -at least this go round.
Best wishes Eddie.
"Nothing gets a yak over a suspension bridge faster than 'Back in the Saddle Again' by Aerosmith" ~ DLR
I am sure Dave came in excited and with a positive attitude but it didn't take long for him to see that Ed couldn't function. We have all seen the video clips of Ed since 2004.However, Ed's problems most likely creeped up on him and maybe a subsequent rehearsal was a disaster because of it.
It's really tough being a Van Halen fan, huh?
BTW, VR will perform a Van Gaygar tune, they're doing Runaround.
What a joke this has become.
VELVET REVOLVER To Perform ROTH And HAGAR Tunes At ROCK HALL - Mar. 9, 2007
Launch Radio Networks reports: VELVET REVOLVER has lined up two songs to perform for VAN HALEN at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony on Monday (March 12). The band will honor both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar by playing a song from their respective eras — for Roth, VELVET REVOLVER will play 1978's "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love", and for Hagar they'll play "Runaround" from 1991.
In addition to the performance at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City, VELVET REVOLVER frontman Scott Weiland and lead guitarist Slash will induct VAN HALEN into the Rock Hall.
Hagar and original VAN HALEN bassist Michael Anthony will be at the ceremony, but it's unknown whether they will join VELVET REVOLVER on stage for the songs.
Roth says he backed out of the event after he was told he couldn't perform with VELVET REVOLVER. Guitarist Eddie Van Halen announced yesterday (Thursday, March 8) that he's going into rehab, and drummer Alex Van Halen will stay close to home to offer his brother whatever help he can.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, which will also feature R.E.M., PATTI SMITH, THE RONETTES, and GRANDMASTER FLASH & THE FURIOUS FIVE, will air live on VH1 Classic beginning at 8:30 p.m. ET on Monday.
Well, at least they aren't playing "How Do I Know When It's Cheese"....
Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
You live in fucking Atlanta and you're making fun of where I live? The city where I live put people on the goddamn moon. You're just pissed that our football teams have owned your asses from day one.Originally posted by halenfan25
If a bomb was dropped on Alabama the US would be better off. I swear, that place is bad.
Most of the place smells like shit.
Speaking of smelling like shit....have you fuckers buried James Brown yet? At least people here know when to bury a poor soul like that.
Sammy and Michael accepting Van Halen's induction into the Rock Hall of Fame is like Paul Rodgers and Tony Franklin accepting Led Zeppelin's induction into the hall of fame.Originally posted by MCMLXXXIV
Again Dave shows he's in his own league.
It's also good that Ed and Al don't talk to press. I hope Ed gots better.
I feel something good will come out of this mess.
Fuck Gaygar an Hot Sauce. They shouldn't attend the ceremony. It's Van Halen, not Other Half being inducted!
"Bumper sticker on my rocket's ass: go home, the earth is full." DLR
His problem is he's always been enabled after the first few, and thats where he continuously stumbles. He can't do this himself, no matter how much he thinks he can. I think you knowwhutimean...Originally posted by Angel
I don't have time to search for it... but didn't I tell you he needed to "admit that he has no power over alcohol, and that his life has become unmanageable"...
and then got slammed by people like Elvis about how I was sounding like a 12-step professional.
Well Elvis... looks like he's taken step 1.
Good luck, Ed...
One dimentional? Has he ever listened to Van Halen?
A whino guitar player who has never been put in check by anyone before now, that's who.Originally posted by bru87tr
who the fuck anounces a tour..etc etc and then says I am going to rehab ?
I know plenty of guitarists, many of which are in their early to mid 20's who love EVH and especially CVH.
How did I get on this page? Too much Loon.
How did I get on this page? Too much Loon?
It sure as fuck wasn't his pub/porn mistress....Originally posted by LoungeMachine
No, I sense someone has walked [dragged] him into it.
Does anyone here actually believe spED wrote the confession on the VH site?
90% of the folks here were expecting Edwierd to plug in @ the Hole of Lame with Wolfgang (yeah, right) even though all signs said "Al and I won't go"..
Signs, not official statements by the on-the-ball cum dumster/GF/PR lady.
She couldn't put 2 sentences together without the words,"Fuck me, baby-Where's my money-Hold my hair while I do this line"
*drunk girl laugh*
Isn't this the exact scenario all you naysayers wanted? Or did you want 04 with Dave and his OWN SON onstage ?Originally posted by diamondsgirl
How fucking perfect to start off a huge reunion tour right after being inducted into the RRHoF.
Talk about fucking up a free lunch!
Wolfie with the iPod wasn't enough for you to realize this train should never leave the station?
22 years we wait...
And you're gonna get pissed over the lack of immediate self-satisfaction The Edward Van Whino and Son tour wouldn't have given you, to be honest?
The timing couldn't have been better for this...
Think of the further embarrassment they all have avoided.
Ed with a guitar and a bottle in his hand has been worse.Originally posted by Matt White
"EDWARD VAN HALEN without a guitar in his hand is a crummy human being...."
Originally posted by Panamark
He recalled his only drink-driving arrest came after he had left an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, appalled by everyone's sob story, and stopped at a bar for a few shots.
"I always got hammered to be able to cope," he told the magazine.
"I have zero social skills and I don't know how to act, so I get drunk. And then I make a real ass out of myself."
Even his past rehab failures proves he's an arrogant asshair that never got sober to begin with.
Originally posted by halenfan25
My vibrator DOESN"T work.
Not for this peckerhead here.Originally posted by LoungeMachine
When it was announced, it was the GREATEST thing since the moon landing...
It COULD HAVE BEEN an opportunity to see them on TV before the '07 Loonar Landing tour, nothing more.
And now, the west coast feed...Brilliant.Originally posted by BrownSound1
I don't think Ed planned a damn thing. I don't think he fucked up Dave's HoF glory, and I don't think some of you know what in the fuck you're talking about either.
I say Ed went to rehab before today...just re-read Dave's LA Times interview. He pretty much alludes that Ed was indisposed last week, and makes reference to him drying out.
Fact, Ed is a fall down drunk...everyone's known that for years. Hell even before Roth quit back in '85, we knew that. Here's another fact, all of those guys have had substance abuse problems. Hell Dave had the world in the palm of his hand, and it disappeared faster than Houdini. You think that was just a run of bad luck? Bullshit. Cocaine was probably the cause of that. I know for a fact that Dave was doing a huge amounts of coke when Mike Hartman was cutting stuff for the DLR Band cd. I guess that's all fine and dandy though, but to me it is just as bad. Dave appears to have gotten his shit straight, and just perhaps he's glad Ed is finally getting his...or attempting to.
I saw someone reference Hendrix being influential to this day...yeah. He's also deader than a motherfucker too because he was a dumbass and didn't clean up. The tragedy there is because he died of his own doing. Same with Bonham, Morrison, Bonn Scott, Keith Moon, etc. Yeah, EVH might not be as influential as he once was with the kids, but neither is Les Paul, Scotty Moore, or Chuck Berry. Their influence, however is there whether these dumb kids realize it or not.
naysayer? immediate self satisfaction? wtf are you talking about?Originally posted by hideyoursheep
Isn't this the exact scenario all you naysayers wanted? Or did you want 04 with Dave and his OWN SON onstage ?
Wolfie with the iPod wasn't enough for you to realize this train should never leave the station?
22 years we wait...
And you're gonna get pissed over the lack of immediate self-satisfaction The Edward Van Whino and Son tour wouldn't have given you, to be honest?
The timing couldn't have been better for this...
Think of the further embarrassment they all have avoided.
I'm not talking about the tour, I'm talking about the induction. They should prop him up in a chair in the audience, make up some shit why he can't perform...let everyone else perform and then he goes to rehab after the show.
Put a cast on leg and pretend its broken...I don't give a shit...just don't let him near the stage.... and give him a few shots so he's not shaking all over the place.
But he should be there. And Dave should do all the talking and all the singing
Originally posted by JohnnyGuitar69
Actually, the months that he stayed sober back then may be very helpful to him now, because he knows he CAN do it again.
No chance. He's going to have to do it completely different this time around.
He's gonna have to do it RIGHT.
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