So how long is a stay in rehab?

[ELVIS]

Yeah, I could see Wolfgang having a lot to to with it...

Dave could also be a positive force...

I say we pray for the best and that Edward has a full recovery and recaptures and even surpasses some of his former glory...

[Dr. Weenis]

Dr. Weenis here, chiming in, as this is what I do for a living.
Working in psychiatric and rehab facilities.
{Really}

Eddie given his money, and the extent of his alcoholism/drug addiction, will probably be on a medical floor initially, depending on when he went in, he may still be there.

The medical staff there will tend to the PHYSICAL symptoms of his addiction at that point, primarily. making sure his blood pressure remains stable, and that he is reasonably comfortable. He will probably be doing quite a bit of sleeping, and be on several medications.

After he is medically cleared, he would begin the "emotional" aspect of his treatment. This would probably be on a different wing of the unit he was on before, or maybe an entirely different area of the facility. Ed would be meeting with a therapist, having groups, participating in a mileau. This all depends on his willingness to participate in such a program. As an adult, and not being court ordered, he can quit the program at any time.

Before he leaves, he may be set up with outpatient services and again, depending on his willingness to participate, an intensive schedule of meetings and follow up appointments.

In my opinion if he does this right, we won't be seeing hide nor hair from him for at least two years. His band, touring, performing, etc, is more than likely a trigger for potential relapse.

Another point, if EVH were to enter into a twelve step recovery process, he would be encouraged to put off all major life decisions until the severity of "stinking thinking" or realistically, his possible brain damage was determined.

For once not fucking around,
Dr. Weenis


OH, and I would think he's in a 90 day program...after he's medically cleared.

[Ice Cream Girl]

Originally posted by fryingdutchman
I From what little information we have it sounds like Wolfie is working to keep Eddie together...and is probably picking up from where his Mom left off when it became too much and she bolted.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Children have to raise their alcoholic parents at some point.

A lot of us have been down that road, being "the responsible one."

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Dr. Weenis

Ed would be meeting with a therapist, having groups, participating in a mileau.

For once not fucking around,
Dr. Weenis

Correction...

Milieu...

"Theraputic milieu"

LMAO!

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Ice Cream Girl
A lot of us have been down that road, being "the responsible one."

I think you need some theraputic milieu...

You seem to have been holding onto some anger...

Would you like to talk about it ??

Tell us how that makes you feel...

[Ice Cream Girl]

Originally posted by ELVIS
I think you need some theraputic milieu...

You seem to have been holding onto some anger...

Would you like to talk about it ??

Tell us how that makes you feel...

Elvis...being a nurse, you cannot deny that a lot of alcoholics are raised by their kids, essentially.

Don't be a such a douchebag.

[Dr. Weenis]

Harecutt, my friend, it's late.

Yes, it's milieu...LMAO too!!! Don't know what I was trying to spell there.


AS far as that yucky speak, "tell us how that makes you feel" etc.
I feel like I need to bathe everytime some fresh meat breaks that one out. Group therapy can be insincere and disgusting. What is also disgusting is the quality of the young nurses coming out of medical school. Not only are they fat, but they are STUPID.

Nursing shortage crisis: Just in time to kill all the baby boomers.

In Christ,
Skymaster

[Wawazat]

Originally posted by ELVIS
All I can say is Ed is gonna have to want to stay sober to stay sober, and that he is going to have to do it for himself...

100% correct, the only requirement needed.

And yes i know what i'm talking about. Been to rehab twice.

Both times preceded with a 10 days detoxication.

Even though nobody forced me in but myself, first time only lasted for 6 month...

Got the stupid idea i could control the drugs

Second time i got it right, been in rehab for 8 weeks
(late 2003) ever since i'm clean. Self-help groups add a lot to that fact.

So let's hope the best for Ed.

I think if it works out fine for him, there might be a lot of changes in his lifestyle - what lifestyle is that anyway :p -
but the guy can't keep his hands off the guitar it seems.

I'm positive we have not heard the last from Ed.

[bluemustard]

I like the australian way of rehab
I also like the Marvin Gaye way.
He went to Holland and Belgium and walked on the beach and played darts in belgium hillbilly bars.
LMFAO
Thats a great movie by the way.

Wish Ed would come back to Holland.

Do it here.Like Marvin.
Thats my romantic thought about it.
Anyway..Hope he does it.
BurRRpp.
I'm gonna try the Australian way soon.
I ain't got money for the MAui way..lol
Aloha

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Dr. Weenis
Not only are they fat, but they are STUPID.

Don't even get me started down that road...

I have over 18 years experience and I don't know what the hell is going on...

I find myself wondering all the time, when did the standards change, what's going on in these schools...

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by jharp84
Eddie's LIVER needs a FUCKING YEAR!!!!

Do you really think he´s still running on his first liver??

:confused:

[lafours]

I could care less if EVH does a tour again. But if he can get his life together and the creativity comes back maybe there's some great music in there that can be recorded. Hopefully that music is recorded with DLR and then a year or two down the road a tour can happen the right way....

[Roy Munson]

This is a grate thread. It's interesting to read the experiences of others who have been through rehab.

[Jimmy Jingles]

At some point in 1996, I was in rehab for exactly 12 minutes.

[srj]

From Personal Experience in 2005

2-4 Days - Detox
21 Days In-Patient
14 days Intensive Out-patient - 8 hours a day
14 days Outpatient - 2 hours a day

[Roth & Roll]

I don't believe that you can put a timetable on rehab. It's a very personal matter that varies depending on the individual. Based on the accelerated physical decline of Ed's appearance over the past 5 years there seems to be a lot more than just alcohol abuse going on here. Anything less than a minimum of 90 days would be useless. From a professional standpoint, I do believe that Ed will be rendered out of commission for at least the next 4-6 months; perhaps longer.

There is also a strong possibility that Ed's long term substance abuse may have resulted in irreversable brain damage (and no, I am NOT trying to be funny here) although that wont become fully evident until he actually cleans up.

I wish him luck; he's going to have a very bumpy road ahead.

[srj]

You would be surprised how long (or short) it can take for someone to get started on the road to recovery. The first two weeks definitely suck, the third week is better and so on. Granted, this is a very personal issue and results vary from person to person.

Timeframe is irrelevant. Also keep in mind that there are several different approaches to treatment, some work for some people, some don't. He has tried this before, maybe those types did not work for him - lets hope this one sticks.

It sounds cliche - but when it comes to recovery, it is definitely a minute by minute, day by day process.

If he believes that he has a problem and is taking the daily steps to fix it, then he has a chance. If not, It will be tough for him once he does get out. Everything around him will remind him (trigger) of using. His home, the studio, the road, friends, family etc.

[isthatTHUNDER?!]

Originally posted by Jimmy Jingles
At some point in 1996, I was in rehab for exactly 12 minutes.

immediate candidate for gayest post ever. How do I rid my site of the faggots?

[Roth & Roll]

Originally posted by srj
You would be surprised how long (or short) it can take for someone to get started on the road to recovery. The first two weeks definitely suck, the third week is better and so on. Granted, this is a very personal issue and results vary from person to person.

Timeframe is irrelevant. Also keep in mind that there are several different approaches to treatment, some work for some people, some don't. He has tried this before, maybe those types did not work for him - lets hope this one sticks.

It sounds cliche - but when it comes to recovery, it is definitely a minute by minute, day by day process.

If he believes that he has a problem and is taking the daily steps to fix it, then he has a chance. If not, It will be tough for him once he does get out. Everything around him will remind him (trigger) of using. His home, the studio, the road, friends, family etc.

Well said;
Welcome to The Army!

[Roth & Roll]

Originally posted by isthatTHUNDER?!
How do I rid my site of the faggots?

You can start with hanging yourself....

[Jimmy Jingles]

Originally posted by isthatTHUNDER?!
How do I rid my site of the faggots?

You could start with banning yourself, you pedophile shit blower.

Of course your belly would constitute a separate, second banning of its own.

[DavidLeeNatra]

rehab is nothing you do and then you are "healthy"...no matter how long you are in...

we "lost" a member of our small company to booze and he was in for half a year...didn't take him that long to think he's got it "under control"...

I don't see dave at all behind that scenario...he once said, that "I don't care what you drink or snore as long as you can get up, plug in and play..."

[srj]

you are never "cured." It is a day in, day out ordeal. You are an alcoholic for the rest of your life. If he truly values his family and music then he definitely has the motivation to embark on a life long journey of sobriety. Lets hope he went on his own terms and was not forced into anything. Rehab is bearable if your are there to work the program - in the end you are only helping yourself. Rehab is un-bearable if you are forced into it. Instead of looking for ways to improve, you are looking for ways to leave.

Alcohol and drugs do not discriminate. Doesnt matter if your a regular joe or a world renown musician.

Dont mean to get on the soapbox here, just a subject that I have experience with and hits close to home.

[matt19]

Wasnt Hetfield in for 6 weeks, of actual rehab. Then was out of Metallica for 6 months while he worked on himself. I know a lot of people bitched about how Metallica went about things, but strictly from a personal standpoint, James seems to be a happier, healthier person now.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by srj
you are never "cured." It is a day in, day out ordeal. You are an alcoholic for the rest of your life.

I wouldn't be so quick to categorize the human condition...

It's not that simple and everyone is different...

I'm no longer an alcoholic...you may be, but I'm not...

And I don't consider myself "cured" of anything, however, I am a born again Christian, and I am a new creature in Christ Jesus...Old things have passed away...

But again, it's not that simple...

BTW, I enjoyed rehab...

[bru87tr]

ed's in rehab and then gonna tour.

ya, that works! lol

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by isthatTHUNDER?!
It depends, my first one was 28 days, my second was only 5.

Is that the range for pedophile rehab Joe?

[indeedido]

Hopefully he can work on himself after his 30 day stint or so. He will have more problems down the road. Up to him to step up

[FORD]

Originally posted by bluemustard
I like the australian way of rehab
I also like the Marvin Gaye way.
He went to Holland and Belgium and walked on the beach and played darts in belgium hillbilly bars.
LMFAO
Thats a great movie by the way.

Wish Ed would come back to Holland.

Do it here.Like Marvin.
Thats my romantic thought about it.
Anyway..Hope he does it.
BurRRpp.
I'm gonna try the Australian way soon.
I ain't got money for the MAui way..lol
Aloha

Marvin's way wasn't too successful. He was killed by his own father

[FORD]

Originally posted by isthatTHUNDER?!
immediate candidate for gayest post ever. How do I rid my site of the faggots?

Don't let the door hit you where "Selector Sam" split you......

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
rehab is nothing you do and then you are "healthy"...no matter how long you are in...

we "lost" a member of our small company to booze and he was in for half a year...didn't take him that long to think he's got it "under control"...

I don't see dave at all behind that scenario...he once said, that "I don't care what you drink or snore as long as you can get up, plug in and play..."

And apparently Ed wasn't even well enough to do that well.

Funny, early interview snippets from Dave indicated that the band (with Wolfie) sounded great and on top of their game.

My guess is that Ed messed up and was fucking up bigtime during subsequent rehearsals. Live Nation people saw this and pulled the plug.

I mean, Eddie had to re-learn his own solos and riffs from Wolfgang (the six pack on his Ipod).

It seemed as though things were going well, until they got worse, as far as Ed is concerned.

[Big Troubles]

I think it's 4 hours of drying out for every bottle of wine.... So for Ed, we'll see him some time in 2020.

[Dave's PA Rental]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
I think it's 4 hours of drying out for every bottle of wine.... So for Ed, we'll see him some time in 2020.

.

That's a funny line right there...

Whats up BT?

[hotdog@ a shake]

I'm just curious and I am being totally serious here, so any help in assisiting me would be highly appreciated.

Lord knows, I've had my demons and I've done some stuff I am not proud of. Last year, the first half of the year, was going great, I had this re-newed interest in the martial arts and weight lifting again and started to work out endlessly and eating well.

I dropped almost 20 Ilbs of body fat and gained some muscle mass and I felt great. my blood pressure was way down, testoserone was way up, and I was sleeping better.

All of a sudden, I went to a friend's wedding around June of last year, fuckin' krazy ass after parties up at the hotel, plenty of booze, blow, smack, weed, oh yeh, and plenty of beaver going around.

So, I went for it and it last almost 3 days. when I came home to "reality", I realized that I liked partying again too much, so I was "fuck this", "If I wanna drink, I'll drink ..." bla bla

Anyway, I just stopped cold turkey after 6 months of hard partying, just got fed up, thru out all the liquor in my pad and promised myself I would be a better person and help myself.

It is now 4 months later and I haven't had a drink once and to be quite honest, I really don't want to anyway. I feel like I have just lost the feeling of picking up a bottle of crown royal or Jack and drinkin for the sake of just getting so fuckin wasted that I won't remember what happened the night before.

So, after all of that, does that make me an alcholic for life?

Am I an Alcholic to begin with?

I feel that I could still drink and limit myself to 2 drinks a night if I really wanted to, but I don't want to since I have been feeling so great now.

[Wawazat]

Originally posted by hotdog@ a shake
so I was "fuck this", "If I wanna drink, I'll drink ..." bla bla

Anyway, I just stopped cold turkey after 6 months of hard partying, just got fed up, thru out all the liquor in my pad and promised myself I would be a better person and help myself.

I feel like I have just lost the feeling of picking up a bottle of crown royal or Jack and drinkin for the sake of just getting so fuckin wasted that I won't remember what happened the night before.

So, after all of that, does that make me an alcholic for life?

Am I an Alcholic to begin with?

Don't you think you answered that yourself ?

Originally posted by hotdog@ a shake

I feel that I could still drink and limit myself to 2 drinks a night if I really wanted to,

I don't think that'll work for you

Originally posted by hotdog@ a shake


but I don't want to since I have been feeling so great now.

Now that does make sense.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
.


Whats up BT?

"Chilln'. Relaxin'. Shootin' Some B Ball."

But most importantly, I'm just waiting, i think like most around here, for some GOOD news on the Van Halen front. I kinda wanna see sometin' positive happen to the band b4 I die. Or in the case of Edward, before he dies. Man, with all the Ed bashing goin' on, I really just wish they would turn back the hands of time and clear the coconuts long enuff to remember what brought them to the dance in the first place. it wasn't Dave's voice. It wasn't Ed's "sound". It wasn't the musical connection between brothers on stage and it wasn't the high background vocals. IT WAS ALL OF IT PUT TOGETHER. Like lightening in a bottle man.

[Big Troubles]

And U?