Wolfie or Mike? And Why?

**Roth & Roll** · 04-09-2007, 10:44 PM

Adding Wolfgang Van Halen to the real VH lineup to help out his deep-fried-dad on guitar, with Michael Anthony and his harmonies on bass would be the right thing to do for everyone concerned.

The fans would at least get a true Van Halen reunion and Eddie can pass the torch on to his son (for better or for worse) which EVH has already stated to be his wish.

At least there wouldn't be anymore damn controversy on whether that stupid torch should be lit.

At this point it should be up EVH's ass for all of his drama queen bullshit.

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by Roth & Roll
The fans would at least get a true Van Halen reunion and Eddie can pass the torch on to his son (for better or for worse) which EVH has already stated to be his wish.

What a sentimental nonsense!

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 01:48 AM

All this brings me to one conclusion:

If the reunion ever does happen half you motherfuckers don't deserve to be there. You got absolutely ZERO respect for CVH.

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 01:48 AM

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 02:20 AM

And fuck the "nice hair" thing...

Mike's bald, Dave's bald, shit, I'm bald and you are too (or will be).

Ed still got his hair and he's the worst off of all of us.

**FORD** · 04-10-2007, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by Little Lamont
All this brings me to one conclusion:

If the reunion ever does happen half you motherfuckers don't deserve to be there. You got absolutely ZERO respect for CVH.

You must have taken a wrong turn somewhere, Little Lambchop. That quote should be used over at Links where they think the 3/4 of a band which played FUCKING AIR SUPPLY CHEESE BALLADS is more Van Halen than the theoretical 3/4 which would play the proper Van HALEN catalog.

Ultimately, it should be the REAL lineup on stage. But forced to choose one member voted off the island, Van Halen minus Sobolewski would still sound mostly like Van Halen.

Van Hagar didn't. Van Danniels wasn't in the same hemisphere.

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 02:42 AM

Nope. All 4 or nothing. Dave look like an idiot standing in front the Van Halen family in that latest pic. He look like one Hatfield who managed to make nice with the McCoys.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA yourself.
Sammy was a mistake and Wolf will be too.

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by Little Lamont
If the reunion ever does happen half you motherfuckers don't deserve to be there.

And I'm sure you'll be the one to decide who's worthy to see the Reunion, and who's not. Gimme a break.

Originally posted by Little Lamont
Sammy was a mistake and Wolf will be too.

This time you're right.

There are plenty of GOOD bass players to hire. The Rolling Stones don't have an official bassist, but they're still The Rolling Stones.

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 02:48 AM

Just to justify myself:

I got the six pack out tonight on vinyl. Spinning them on the old turntable and smoking some good stuff. If you could be here right now, you wouldn't want nothing but what's on those records either.

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 02:50 AM

Sorry I got a little fired up.

Peace.

Time to turn over "Women And Children First."

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 02:57 AM

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

**FORD** · 04-10-2007, 02:59 AM

As long as you admit Sammy was a mistake, that's cool. Now don't bogart that bong.....

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 03:00 AM

Fear?

Who said I was scared?

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 03:03 AM

FORD. No mistake, bro...

Sammy can kiss my black ass.

I saw him open for Boston way back in '79. I flipped him the bird from the balcony.

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 03:05 AM

Everyone of us is scared of the Reunion or the lack of it. I'm scared of their future music (if there will ever be any).

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 03:09 AM

You really in Warsaw? As in Poland?

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 03:10 AM

Really.

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 03:13 AM

Cool, man. Big world and small all at the same time.

**ELVIS** · 04-10-2007, 03:35 AM

I just love how some of you idiots call Mike a "poor musician."

It just shows you know absolutely nothing about music...

I doubt you could tell the difference between Bullet Boys and Van Halen...

This entire thread is just lame...

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
I just love how some of you idiots call Mike a "poor musician."

Mike is the best of the best of the best, sir!

**ELVIS** · 04-10-2007, 04:39 AM

I thought the Bass solo he did in 1984 in Biloxi Ms. was pretty cool...

The space effects and his entire routine sounds cool filling up a huge auditorium...

But he is an excellent bassist both on the albums and live...

He's the perfect foundation for Edward...

**DavidLeeNatra** · 04-10-2007, 05:20 AM

oh yeah...when drums stop...very bad...bass solo...

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 05:36 AM

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/onehand/114.html
"When Alex Van Halen performs a long solo following not too far after Michael Anthony's bass solo (bass solo? Really? Still?), you start looking at your watch. Anthony did little more than run around and bang into the amps (...) and pop his strings. Luckily, that one was short."

http://jefitoblog.com/blog/?p=1037
"Let's pause here to point out that Michael Anthony is not a very good bassist; in fact, he's probably an extremely crappy bassist. I know people who think he’s the worst bassist in rock history, but I'm not willing to go that far, and anyway, it never mattered — when was the last time you listened to a Van Halen album and paid attention to the bass? The only people acutely aware of Anthony’s ineptitude with the bass are those who have seen the band play live. Like many of you, I've been treated to a Michael Anthony "bass solo" — if you never had the pleasure of seeing one, they usually lasted about ten minutes, during which the rest of the band would exit the stage, leaving Anthony to stumble around like a man frantically trying to extricate himself from a bass that's been surgically attached to his body. Like the girls in TLC used to say, unpretty."

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/01/13/172642.php
"Michael always got a solo in the Van Halen live shows and I will have to admit not being very impressed with those. He usually got his Jack Daniel's bass out and that was enough to get the party hearty crowd going before he even strummed a single note. Once he hit a single note, the crowd got even more fired up, so he basically played this single note over and over until he got tired. It's a mark of rare genius to know when showmanship trumps ability. He saved his best moves for the studio and the world is all the better for it. Plus, if you get really bored and want to play a game of musical mix and match, just think if he had been the Beatle's bassist instead of Paul. The possibilities of amusement are endless."

I'm sorry, I couldn't find other opinions about Mike's bass playing.

**ELVIS** · 04-10-2007, 06:14 AM

This is EXCELLENT bass playing...

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**matt19** · 04-10-2007, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
I thought the Bass solo he did in 1984 in Biloxi Ms. was pretty cool...

The space effects and his entire routine sounds cool filling up a huge auditorium...

But he is an excellent bassist both on the albums and live...

He's the perfect foundation for Edward...

Sorry I have to disagree... the space effects were cool, but it dates the whole thing. Foundation for Edward, maybe, but with the right effects that solo can be played by a middle school bassist.

**kamaboko** · 04-10-2007, 09:51 AM

And this is any better?

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**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by kamaboko
And this is any better?

Of course not! But these are better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFi9NlxAJmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fZk5qX00Dw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EOvAy3evU3k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRuOQtg-pJ0

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 10:42 AM

Mike is not a poor musician and those who say he is are the ones I was talkin bout last night.

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Little Lamont
Mike is not a poor musician

Prove it.

**Little Lamont** · 04-10-2007, 01:21 PM

Man, I'm tired of arguing with you.

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 01:46 PM

Arguing requires arguments.

**FORD** · 04-10-2007, 01:56 PM

I'd consider Mike an "average" bass player.

He's obviously not on the level of Billy Sheehan, John Entwistle, or Geddy Lee but on the other hand, he's not Sid Vicious or Stuart Sutcliffe either.

It's no secret that Mike's harmonies were his primary contribution to the Van HALEN sound, more than his bass playing.

**if6was9** · 04-10-2007, 02:00 PM

I tend to agree with Ford. "Average" is much more suitable word than "poor".

**Terry** · 04-10-2007, 06:45 PM

I will say his bass solo came across much better if you were actually in the arena. On video, it sounds and looks a bit silly, but it was loud as shit live - only bass player I ever heard play louder was Geezer Butler...

Mike is an okay player. There was a bit more to what he did than the often-ripped on RWTD intro, but he really didn't NEED to do much more anyway...Ed was doing so much as it was that to have a Sheehan thing happening on top of that would have made it sound too cluttered, IMO.

**Plexi Head** · 04-10-2007, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by if6was9
Prove it.

Have you listened to Fair Warning lately bud?

Proof enough in my book that Mike was capable enough of grooving and laying down the foundations for the greatest guitar player of all time and one of the best rock drummers ever.

Van Halen would sound like a mess with a busy wanker bass player. Who the fuck cares about a bass solo anyway? Mike entertained, he wasn't there to win any awards, he left that up to the guitar player.

What constitutes a good bass player anyway? A good bass player in my book makes the bottom end rock solid and is the consumate team player which is what Mike always was.

When did music and musicianship become sport anyway?

**DavidLeeNatra** · 04-10-2007, 09:20 PM

isn't there a "gone but not forgotten"-thread somewhere on some gay site for "mikey"?

why don't you discuss this shit over there...

**ELVIS** · 04-11-2007, 12:54 AM

Thank you Plexi...

A lot of these posters are just idiots when it comes to really understanding music...

**if6was9** · 04-11-2007, 01:17 AM

Elvis: Yeah... the REAL understanding of music. Tell me about it, oh great guru.

Plexi: Alex being one of the best rock drummers ever? Are you sure? Have you ever listened to anything else but Van Halen?

**Van Squalenn** · 04-11-2007, 01:28 AM

It should totally be Mike. I love that tangy sauce of his.

Oww! Van Squalen out.

**Plexi Head** · 04-11-2007, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by if6was9
Elvis: Yeah... the REAL understanding of music. Tell me about it, oh great guru.

Plexi: Alex being one of the best rock drummers ever? Are you sure? Have you ever listened to anything else but Van Halen?

Alex being ONE of the best rock drummers of all time? Yes I'm sure.

How many drummers out there that you can tell it's them the second you hear them? I can count em on one hand.

Again, I aint talking bout wankery, I'm talking about sound and groove. When it came time for technique the guy had that in spades too.

Funny, most tribute bands that try and play Van Halen can kinda nail the guitars and vocals but hardly ever the drums.

Only guy I saw live pull off Alex Van Halen was Virgil Donnati, see I do get out and listen to other musicians.

In all my days I never thought I would see Elvis say thankyou to anyone, I'm not even sure it is Elvis, did someone hijack his computer?

One thing I know for sure is that Elvis does have an idea about what costitutes good musicianship and good music. His opinion of Brian Young is tetimony to that.

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