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    Cool Rolling Stone: "40 Songs That Changed The World"



    Can't really argue with most of the choices. Even the ones I don't like.

    Exceptions - the last two. I really don't think Titney Spears or the White Stripes changed shit - except for demonstrating that corporatist labels now completely push image over talent.
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    Wow.. Pretty interesting list. Nice find.

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    Wheres Van Halen?
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    Safe to say Baby One more Time was not our proudest moment in the history of recorded arts.
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    Yea, I would say that was pretty accurate.

    Although, I would put something in to represent prog.
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    I don't know about the White Stripes, but unfortunately, Britney did usher in the teenage girl pop star era that, along with Latin music, dominated much of the very late 90's/early 00's music scene.

    So, as much as I hated it, I kind of have to agree with that pick.

    I agree with most of the choices too (a couple I'm just not familiar enough with to make an informed decision). But, I'd like to look this up, article-wise, and see their rationale for not only the choices, but also their positioning. Might make things a little more/less debatable.
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    Not off the mark as they usually are, agreed, although I personally couldn't give a shit about #s 38-40.
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    just like rollingstone to include no van halen
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    great post! the world has definitely changed for the better since music has come into society.
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    That list is a joke!

    Louie,Louie? LOL!

    The Boss? LMAO!

    Donna Summer? LMMFAO!

    Sugarhill Gang? C'mon!

    Michael Jackson? White or Black?

    RunDMC and Aerosmtith(sic)? Well, they got the tit part right!

    Britney Spears? Vomit!

    Any musical list that has Dre and Led Zeppelin in the top 50...you know some asshole wrote it.
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    You don't think ZEPPELIN belongs on the list, AssVibe??

    Who would you put in their place?

    And remember, this list is ranked not in order of importance, but chronologically. so if you deleted Zep, who deserves to take their place and time on the list?

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    Sabbath?
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    Bob Dylan and The Ramones???? What a joke...both of them suck big time


    (Unchainme--you forgot the Cleveland Crusaders on your list)
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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
    That list is a joke!

    Louie,Louie? LOL!

    The Boss? LMAO!

    Donna Summer? LMMFAO!

    Sugarhill Gang? C'mon!

    Michael Jackson? White or Black?

    RunDMC and Aerosmtith(sic)? Well, they got the tit part right!

    Britney Spears? Vomit!

    Any musical list that has Dre and Led Zeppelin in the top 50...you know some asshole wrote it.
    Louie Louie is one of the most if not THE most covered tunes of all time, definitely deserves a spot. Donna Summer? I don't get that one either. Sugarhill Gang had the first big rap hit in history with Rapper's Delight. Billie Jean? A massive hit from the biggest selling album of all time.
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    Originally posted by chan_bkny
    I'm looking at slots 27 through 36 and thinking Metallica should be in there somewhere.
    Yeah, not much real metal representation there..
    I was thinking the same thing.
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    Well, I don't think there's really any metal songs or bands that are really World changing, so the list still works. I'll have to go with most of em, except #'s 38-40 and Black Flag, mostly because I haven't the slightest clue what Black Flag ever changed
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    Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
    Safe to say Baby One more Time was not our proudest moment in the history of recorded arts.
    But it did launch that whole teen pop movement.
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    Originally posted by PumpedUpMidget
    Bob Dylan and The Ramones???? What a joke...both of them suck big time


    (Unchainme--you forgot the Cleveland Crusaders on your list)
    Whether you like them or not, to deny their impact is ignorant and plain stupid.

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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
    That list is a joke!

    Louie,Louie?
    - So many people have covered that song, so it obviously had a major impact

    The Boss?
    - Like it or not, "Born To Run" was a massive album.

    Donna Summer?
    - "I Feel Love" practically started disco. Whether you like disco or not, it was a huge movement at the time.

    Michael Jackson?
    - I think the biggest selling solo artist of all time with biggest selling album of all time deserves to be represented

    RunDMC and Aerosmtith(sic)?
    - Brought rap into the mainstream

    Britney Spears?
    - A Lot of people copied her after that video, a lot of teeny-boppy people like her came through

    Led Zeppelin - I've never really been a Led Zep fan, but you can't deny their impact. An important band, even if I personally have never considered them a GRATE one.

    This list isn't the 50 greatest songs ever, its 50 important songs. 50 songs that influenced people, for better or for worse. So, I'm afraid you're wrong.

    Sorry to have to point that out to you.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    You don't think ZEPPELIN belongs on the list, AssVibe??

    Who would you put in their place?

    And remember, this list is ranked not in order of importance, but chronologically. so if you deleted Zep, who deserves to take their place and time on the list?
    Fuckwit...stay with me here...Dre doesn't belong with Led Zeppelin!

    Then again, YOU liked the fucking list!:confused:

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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
    Whether you like them or not, to deny their impact is ignorant and plain stupid.
    And what impact would that be? The only thing that is plain stupid, is that Rolling Stone put it out, and everyone knows how relevant a Rolling Stone 'list' is...

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    Rolling Stone hates classic rock/metal! Fuck the stripes and Britney! However, the director's cut unrated VIDEO of baby one more time might make a list!!!!!!
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    Originally posted by SA ME WHO
    I don't know about the White Stripes, but unfortunately, Britney did usher in the teenage girl pop star era that, along with Latin music, dominated much of the very late 90's/early 00's music scene.

    So, as much as I hated it, I kind of have to agree with that pick.

    I agree with most of the choices too (a couple I'm Ijust not familiar enough with to make an informed decision). But, I'd like to look this up, article-wise, and see their rationale for not only the choices, but also their positioning. Might make things a little more/less debatable.
    Britney did shit. She is a copy-cat wanna be Madonna, who with "Like a Virgin" at the same age as Britney pioneered what Britney copied. Spears' song did nothing for Rock n' Roll.

    I would also argue that Van Halen's Runnin' with the Devil changed Rock whereas GNR was a band that was inspired by VH.

    I heard this list on the radio and laughed. Yes, most of the choices are true, with the exception of the few I mentioned that have no value in this category.
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    Originally posted by PumpedUpMidget
    And what impact would that be? The only thing that is plain stupid, is that Rolling Stone put it out, and everyone knows how relevant a Rolling Stone 'list' is...
    How many singer-songwriters have been inspired by Dylan?

    How many punk bands have been inspired by the Ramones?

    I hate the Ramones myself, and never really liked punk either, but to deny these bands impact is cuntpletely stupid.

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    Was this list compiled by Rolling Stone or the tequila company?

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    Teen pop has been around since the Beatles, Bay city Rollers etc... Britney didn't change anything. Neither did Madonna. Just because they sold boat-loads of records doesn't necessarily mean they changed anything. They were just writing & performing great pop songs, nothing world changing about that. If you are going to put Britney on here, you may as well add Nsync or the Backstreet Boys.

    NWA 'Straight Outta Compton' or 'Fuck the Police' should be recognized as one of the most influential rap (or any genre) songs ever. Dre infused more melody later on with his solo work, but it wasn't particulary 'world changing' at that point.

    VH, Sabbath, Stevie Wonder, Bee Gees, Metallica & Beastie Boys should be represented in here somewhere.

    White Stripes, Britney, GNR, The Cure, Madonna, U2, Joni Mitchell or Velvet Underground really never 'changed the world', did they?
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    Originally posted by cMb

    White Stripes, Britney, GNR, The Cure, Madonna, U2, Joni Mitchell or Velvet Underground really never 'changed the world', did they?
    VU? Absolutely
    U2 and The Cure? Oft immitated
    Joni? Not familiar, but I'm gonna go with yes
    Madonna? A huge force in the last 25 years of music
    Stirpes - re launced the garage rock thing, but time will tell about their legacy
    GNR - the bridge between pompous hair metal of the 80's and 90's alt rock.
    Briney - one of the first superstars of the last teen pop movement (though I think I'd give Hanson or Backdoor Boys the "credit" first.

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    Ok where's Eruption, Black Sabbath, and Master of Puppets? Those 3 songs changed music more than Baby 1 More Time, Fell in Love with a Girl, or TV Party.
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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
    How many singer-songwriters have been inspired by Dylan?

    How many punk bands have been inspired by the Ramones?

    I hate the Ramones myself, and never really liked punk either, but to deny these bands impact is cuntpletely stupid.
    I do not know of any acts inspired by either Dylan or the inbred fucks known as the Ramones....And so since you disagree with me, I am stupid? Coming from an 18 year old.......

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    " RAPPERS DELIGHT ,THATS A JOKE RIGHT ? RAPPERS DELIGHT WAS A SAMPLE OF " GOOD TIMES BY CHIC ,NOT THE LAME SUGERHILL GANG ..... THE 1ST RAP SONG WAS SAMPLED (RIPPED OFF ) AND THOSE LAME RAPPERS HAVENT STOPPED SINCE !!!!
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    Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE
    " AND THOSE LAME RAPPERS HAVENT STOPPED SINCE !!!!
    It's a shame.....
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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
    Fuckwit...stay with me here...Dre doesn't belong with Led Zeppelin!

    Then again, YOU liked the fucking list!:confused:
    Well, that's not the way it looked when you wrote it.

    But again, this list isn't comparing Led Zeppelin to Dre or anyone to anyone else. It's a chronological list, starting in 1954, and continuing to the present decade.

    Is the list perfect? Fuck no. I doubt it could be. I don't think anyone is going to agree completely with someone else's list of 40 songs that changed the world.

    Van HALEN definitely belongs on the list. And I probably would replace Black Flag with Metallica, even though I love Black Flag. And as far as Dre goes, I would say the NWA "Straight Outa Compton" album had much more of an impact than Dre's solo album "The Chronic" did.

    Add Black Sabbath in at their relevant position in the list and we can get Titney and the White Stripes out of there.

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    Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE
    " RAPPERS DELIGHT ,THATS A JOKE RIGHT ? RAPPERS DELIGHT WAS A SAMPLE OF " GOOD TIMES BY CHIC ,NOT THE LAME SUGERHILL GANG ..... THE 1ST RAP SONG WAS SAMPLED (RIPPED OFF ) AND THOSE LAME RAPPERS HAVENT STOPPED SINCE !!!!
    There ya go..... Like I said, you don't have to LIKE the impact that the songs had, but you just admitted that it DID have an impact.

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    Originally posted by PumpedUpMidget
    I do not know of any acts inspired by either Dylan or the inbred fucks known as the Ramones....And so since you disagree with me, I am stupid? Coming from an 18 year old.......
    You gotta be kidding!

    Dylan influenced an entire generation of songwriters, not the least of which was one John Lennon. The Byrds and Hendrix had bigger hits with his songs than he did. Dylan's singing voice is an "acquired taste", but you can't knock him as a lyricist.

    As for the Ramones, again far more influential than their record sales would have you believe. Millions may not have bought their albums, but a lot of those who did buy them, formed their own bands. Starting with all the English kids who saw them in 1976, on up to more current bands like Green Day and The Donnas.

    You don't have to like 'em, but you can't deny the impact. Shit, I can't stand Michael Jackson, but that don't mean I can pretend "Thriller" didn't sell 40 million copies. (Let alone the role of one Edward Van Halen in that horrible album)

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    Originally posted by PumpedUpMidget
    I do not know of any acts inspired by either Dylan or the inbred fucks known as the Ramones....And so since you disagree with me, I am stupid? Coming from an 18 year old.......
    I said it was stupid and ignorant to deny a band's/artists influence just because you're personal preference doesn't include them.

    I'm pretty sure if a 65 year old said to you "Van Halen don't deserve to be in such a list because they suck" you would say something along the same lines.

    And what the fuck has my age got to do with it anyways?

    Maybe you're just like all the other ignorant, senile old people in the world.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Shit, I can't stand Michael Jackson, but that don't mean I can pretend "Thriller" didn't sell 40 million copies. (Let alone the role of one Edward Van Halen in that horrible album)
    I think thats doubled now, since all the reissues and what-not.

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    Originally posted by bantonelli
    Britney did shit. She is a copy-cat wanna be Madonna, who with "Like a Virgin" at the same age as Britney pioneered what Britney copied. Spears' song did nothing for Rock n' Roll.

    I would also argue that Van Halen's Runnin' with the Devil changed Rock whereas GNR was a band that was inspired by VH.

    I heard this list on the radio and laughed. Yes, most of the choices are true, with the exception of the few I mentioned that have no value in this category.
    While I'll be happy to agree about Brit revamping the early Madonna schtick, the fact remains that, whether it be timing or what not, come Britney's break, that whole little-girl-wannabe-adult time period of music permeated all major music markets and let to the onslaught of even less talented females to try their hand at it because they too could afford to buy a fake rack over which boys would drool.

    While I find it holds no musical merit whatsoever, I have to say that in the musical landscape, for that time period, it does hold some amount of groundbreaking importance. Which, from what I understand, is what they were judging upon.

    (I too find little merit in all RS lists. But, I do have to say that this one is pretty spot on in comparison to how far off other lists were.

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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
    Fuckwit...stay with me here...Dre doesn't belong with Led Zeppelin!

    Then again, YOU liked the fucking list!:confused:
    " Fuckwit "

    hee hee

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    Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE
    " RAPPERS DELIGHT ,THATS A JOKE RIGHT ? RAPPERS DELIGHT WAS A SAMPLE OF " GOOD TIMES BY CHIC ,NOT THE LAME SUGERHILL GANG ..... THE 1ST RAP SONG WAS SAMPLED (RIPPED OFF ) AND THOSE LAME RAPPERS HAVENT STOPPED SINCE !!!!

    Thought most of the rap put out until about 1991 or so was tolerable, but the shit sliding down the pipe the last ten years or so does nada for me.

    Yes, yes, I get it. You pump your pimped hoes while keeping it real making your bling and I won't be looking at you less'n you buss a cap in my ass, be-yawch! Lovely.

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    So some Elvis song I've never heard of is No. 1; "Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts club band", "All you need is love" or some other more worthy Beatles songs aren't even on there; BoRap isn't higher; no "Stairway to Heaven"; no MC5; and worst of all NO VAN HALEN WTF?!?! :MAD:
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