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    Nirvana, Green Day, and Def Leppard
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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    You guys are taking the easy route by naming the obvious, but i'm gonna set this board on fire. But first i wanna say that i'm a really nice guy and this is only my opinion, so please don't call me a cocktard or all those crazy names that you guys come up with on this site. Okay.. ready..... THE BEATLES. Without Sir George Martin, the Beatles would have been an above average band. The time they came to America also played a role. Most of those kids at the airport when they arrived in America where paid by the record label and management to cause a big fuss. if the Beatles would have come out today, they would be just a different sounding band like the White Stripes. Twist and Shout is hailed as a great song, while Shout It Out Loud by KISS is called a Cheezy song. they are both very similar to me. I could give you a lot of comparisons like that. They were the first management/label created bands. now it has evolved to crap like the Back Street Boys and Brittany Spears. Now the Beatles had way more talent than those artist. With a lot of help from the 60/70's drug years, Martin and that Abby Road studio, which was way ahead of the times, they were the perfect storm. Now I'm not saying they suck, I'm just saying they are overrated! I know I'm gonna get death threats by people who roll there eyes when The National Anthem comes on, but when Imagine comes on, they break down and cry. You know who you are!!! One last thing... The Beatles were already a bunch of long haired drug addicts before they came to America. They were told to present themselves as an clean cut Bristish band, so they cleaned up there appearance. then once America accepted them, they went back to there roots. America didn't change them, they changed America. FOR THE WORST!!!!!!!!!

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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
    Van Hagar are overrated?
    yes, you dumb fucking sheep!
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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
    Van Hagar are overrated?
    Uh, I would have to say that I don't really think anybody around here has 'over-rated' them...
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    Originally posted by PlexiBrown

    The Stones after the mid 70's
    Uhhhhh....... would 1978 be considered "mid 70's"??

    'cause this rocks!!

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    The Stones live IS overrated!

    Just gimme the studio stuff.

    Mick always sounds like he's singing while he's running on a treadmill.

    Keith and Ron/Mick/Brian always sound muddy.

    The only ones that sound decent are Charlie and Bill.

    I'm glad i passed on seeing them last time they came around. Blah.
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    don't touch the stones here...they have bad days live sometimes...but they still smoke all the above mentioned bands any day....
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    Let me know when they have a good day live, because in all the times I've seen them live and on bootlegs its exactly as I described them.

    I love their material, but live they fall apart for me.

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    Their exorbitant ticket prices suck as well.
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    hmm. well

    Green day
    Metallica
    U2
    Guns n roses(as much as i love them, really 1 great cd does not make a career)

    Nirvana- its kind of a joke when this guy gets rated higher than EvH in guitar polls...
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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
    Let me know when they have a good day live, because in all the times I've seen them live and on bootlegs its exactly as I described them.

    I love their material, but live they fall apart for me.
    They are the sloppiest live band ever! Mick and Axl are the worst live singers i have ever heard. In the studio they can tune and clean up your voice/sound and not to mention you have as many takes to get it right, but live, you can be exposed. was it the Super Bowl last year or the BCS title game when they performed at halftime and they sounded freakin horrible? My choice was The Beatles, I didn't think of the Stones until you brought them up. At least The Beatles didn't sound that sloppy live, just cheesy.
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    Originally posted by FORD
    Uhhhhh....... would 1978 be considered "mid 70's"??

    'cause this rocks!!

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    You know FORD, we have been fighting together ever since I joined this board and we are gonna disagree again. To me, that's horrible. If that's from 1978, then put that next to Little Dreamer, On Fire or even the worst song on VH1 (YRGM) and that Stones song just melts. They are hailed as the best Rock-n-Roll band ever. That's the biggest over statement ever! Well, maybe calling Paris Hilton a celebrity is. I'm trying to find common ground with you FORD.

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    Natra, that pic in your sig fuckin' rules!
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    Queen.

    I just don't get the appeal. However, I recognize that I'm in the minority on this one, so maybe it's my issue rather than a problem with the band.

    Rock Opera has just never done much for me...

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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
    Van Hagar are overrated?
    If they are rated at all then they are overrated.
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    There are some bands whom I would argue are both underrated AND overrated (or maybe they're just celebrated for the wrong reasons - I dunno)

    Bowie - praised for the image changes but people often don't mention the musical changes that accompanied them.

    Sex Pistols - For a lot of people it's all about Sid. It should be about John's lyrics and Steve's guitar. Sid was rebellious for it's own sake - John had a point.

    U2 - Unlike a lot of you I love 'em - But the first 3 records were mostly filler. They're great live but for a band with their catalog, they should mix up the set-lists more. If Bono would focus less on meeting with politicians and more time on his real job, they could be so much more.

    The Clash - wrote some great songs but they certainly released some experimental stuff that should have stayed in the vault.

    Prince - another amazing musician and songwriter who doesn't seem to understand that some things just suck and they shouldn't be kept around much less released. When you hear some of his stuff you have to think "If this is what he releases then how much must the stuff in his legendary vault suck?"

    Lou Reed - Amazing songwriter - still. His reputation is based around (about) ten songs. There's a lot of good stuff that people don't know about (and, again, a lot of crap that should have stayed burried).

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    Originally posted by fe_lung


    U2 - Unlike a lot of you I love 'em - But the first 3 records were mostly filler.
    OK, I've heard a lot of weird, crazy, and downright criminal things said about U2 on this board, but I'll admit, that's a new one.

    First three albums filler??

    Boy - like most bands' debut albums, the best of the material that they had. Songs that they had been playing live for a few years, and a few that had even been released as singles - though different versions.

    October - I could see how this one could be branded as "filler" if you didn't know the circumstances behind the album's recording. Bono's lyric notebook was stolen in Portland, so when they got into the studio, they literally had to record from scratch. I love the record myself, because the spiritual vibe behind it (look up how the song "Gloria" came to be) was perfect for where I was in my life at the time, and it's still great for that reason once in a while. Though obviously some songs like "Is that all" were abandoned almost immediately by the band, when they took that riff and tacked it on to the live version of "Electric Co."

    As for "War", probably my favorite album of the 80's. "Fair Warning" is a very close second.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    October - I could see how this one could be branded as "filler" if you didn't know the circumstances behind the album's recording. Bono's lyric notebook was stolen in Portland, so when they got into the studio, they literally had to record from scratch. I love the record myself, because the spiritual vibe behind it (look up how the song "Gloria" came to be) was perfect for where I was in my life at the time, and it's still great for that reason once in a while. Though obviously some songs like "Is that all" were abandoned almost immediately by the band, when they took that riff and tacked it on to the live version of "Electric Co."

    As for "War", probably my favorite album of the 80's. "Fair Warning" is a very close second.


    October and War are easily U2's greatest albums...

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    Originally posted by fe_lung
    If they are rated at all then they are overrated.
    Thats it, y'see...I didn't think they were rated at all.

    Who talks aboot Van Hagar?

    I cun't think of anyone except Spammy Gaygar and three inch cock.
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    Originally posted by FORD


    First three albums filler??
    Compared to the later albums - absolutely.
    I get your arguments completely. Sure the first album is the best they could do at the time - can't blame them if they don't "have it" yet. They shouldn't.

    I know the October story (didn't the lyric notebook turn up a year or two ago. I thought I re.ad that somewhere) - again, not their fault that the album isn't tight.

    I'll split with you on War, though. I know a lot of people love it but I just don't get that one. '40' is good, and Sunday's alright (though the Rattle & Hum version is superior) but that's about it. The rest of it doesn't connect with me the way middle and late era stuff does.

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    Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
    Thats it, y'see...I didn't think they were rated at all.

    Who talks aboot Van Hagar?

    I cun't think of anyone except Spammy Gaygar and three inch cock.

    Well, technically, if you say "van hagar sucks fetid donkey's cock" you're still - in a sense- rating them. And qualitatively speaking, you're overrating them.

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    Don't even try to knock the Stones live in any way! Sloppy? Yeah, back then, but goddamn I love bands that are a little sloppy live. We're not talking Led Zep sloppy and shitty live. Take a listen to Keith rocking the FUCK OUT on Little T&A from their concert movie, Let's Spend the Night Together (1979). If someone can find it on You Tube, please attach, since I haven't figured out how to do You Tube stuff yet.
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    C'mon...I know that they can hide behind a good producer and that you have the talent to come up with the song and all but still...live, they're all over the place sloppy.
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    A lot of bands work really hard to sound as loose and "sloppy" as the Stones

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    Originally posted by rustoffa
    The Eagles. Never got it, never will. Joe Walsh wrote a smash hit regarding his involvement with the non-hard-rocking-fuckers.


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    Originally posted by binnie
    Queen.

    I just don't get the appeal. However, I recognize that I'm in the minority on this one, so maybe it's my issue rather than a problem with the band.

    Rock Opera has just never done much for me...
    Hear, hear!

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    Originally posted by rustoffa
    The Eagles. Never got it, never will. Joe Walsh wrote a smash hit regarding his involvement with the non-hard-rocking-fuckers.

    This ain't it.


    On a Trent Reznor Friday... Cool-Whip in my hair
    Corndogs and burritos, rising up through the air
    Starting guard for the Pistons has never met Bobby Knight
    My bread was levened and my beard was trimmed...
    I have a slight overbite
    I've never seen all of "Porkies," or owned a Packard Bell
    And I was thinkin' to myself,
    "If I could breakdance, man that would be swell."
    Then I beat up a Chancellor, and I sprayed him with mace
    You could hear them down the corridor... playing Ace of Bass

    Welcome to the hotel. Now, to porn ya.
    It's a rugby place. Here's my cello case.
    There's plenty of room at the hotel. Now, I'll warn ya:
    You can have a beer, but you'll lose an ear.

    Her mom is Tiffany's sister. She quotes from mid-eighties bands
    "Do you know NSync or Backstreet Boys?" "Well, that depends."
    Bagger Vance is a retard. Sweet, smelly fat.
    Some "Dance Fever" members haven't gotten past that.

    So pulled out the Pac-Man. Beat through it just fine.
    I said, "I haven't got my nipple pierced since 1969."
    And still those oysters are crawlin', so flog away.
    Made you burp in the middle of a fight... just to hear them say...

    (chorus)

    (break)

    Pickles on the ceiling. I think Amway's alright.
    and she said, "we are all just Presidents... here, have a fudge delight."
    and in the pastor's manger, they'd rather have roast beef.
    They cut it with their silly knives but they just can't cut the meat.

    Last thing I remember... I was running door to door.
    Knocking as I passed them by, then I'd hide behind the porch.
    "Relax," said the nightgown, "we are clothes used to conceal."
    You can shuffle any time you like, but you can never deal.

    Always thought Joe looks uncomforatable with The Eagles, like he wants to move.

    I'd take The James Gang any day.

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    Originally posted by fe_lung
    A lot of bands work really hard to sound as loose and "sloppy" as the Stones
    and absolutely NO ONE can be that cool trying to beat the shit out of an idiot like good ol' keef

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    Originally posted by binnie
    Natra, that pic in your sig fuckin' rules!
    love it, too

    but...QUEEN was a killer live act! you can say what you want about the music as well, like it or not...but you can't touch their genius...

    a band you can't rate high enough...

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    Well, like I said, it's wasted on me....

    Guess I must be a freak...lol!

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    Originally posted by fe_lung
    Compared to the later albums - absolutely.
    I get your arguments completely. Sure the first album is the best they could do at the time - can't blame them if they don't "have it" yet. They shouldn't.

    I know the October story (didn't the lyric notebook turn up a year or two ago. I thought I re.ad that somewhere) - again, not their fault that the album isn't tight.

    I'll split with you on War, though. I know a lot of people love it but I just don't get that one. '40' is good, and Sunday's alright (though the Rattle & Hum version is superior) but that's about it. The rest of it doesn't connect with me the way middle and late era stuff does.
    And now, from the second best performance of US Fest 83.....

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    Originally posted by rustoffa
    The Eagles. Never got it, never will.
    You said it!

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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
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    C'mon...I know that they can hide behind a good producer and that you have the talent to come up with the song and all but still...live, they're all over the place sloppy.
    Aw man...that IS rock n' roll to me!

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    Sonic Youth: making out of tune guitars go 'screech' might have been innovative 25 years ago but it sure ain't now. They're not bad, it's just that EVERYTHING they do gets praised to high heavens by critics when it clearly doesn't deserve to.

    PJ Harvey: Again, she's mostly listenable, but the fawning worship by the critics puts me off. She's got some good songs, but most of her stuff is mediocre.
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    Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
    but...QUEEN was a killer live act! you can say what you want about the music as well, like it or not...but you can't touch their genius...

    a band you can't rate high enough...
    Originally posted by binnie
    Well, like I said, it's wasted on me....

    Guess I must be a freak...lol!
    You shouldn't call a band overrated just beacuse their style doesn't appeal to you. The sheer amount of talent coming from every single member of that band is absolutely astounding. I can understand rock opera not being for everybody...hell, it ain't even for me except in the case of Queen...but even if you're not a fan, you can't deny their proficiency. Extremely underrated band.

    And Bin, I'll bet you are a freak

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    Well, he said he'd do $haron O$bournĀ£...so, yea, he probably is.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    please don't call me a cocktard

    Without Sir George Martin, the Beatles would have been an above average band. Most of those kids at the airport when they arrived in America where paid by the record label and management to cause a big fuss.

    With a lot of help from the 60/70's drug years, they changed America. FOR THE WORST!!!!!!!!!
    Sorry, but you are a cocktard.

    The White Album and Abbey Road alone did enough for the art of studio production and songcraft to inspire the majority of rock artists for the last 40 years.

    Considering you sound like you have some idea of what you are talking about regarding the Beatles, it makes your opinion all the more baffling. :confused:

    I agree with the guy who said Lou Reed. I don't get him at all.
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