The Army Boxing Thread

[binnie]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
I don't see anyone mentioning Paul Williams at 147.

He throws over 1000 punches a fight and is over 6'0 tall and beat Margarito for his belt in his last fight didn't he?

You are correct Sir.

I mentioned him, I'll re-post it to save me typing. His height is the major issue.

Originally posted by binnie


Paul Williams might be an interesting fight, although it's not going to happen until his profile increases. Do we know how Floyd would cope with a 6' welter? Maybe that would be a weakness? I'm not too sure that Williams would be able to land anything meaningful though.

[binnie]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Not so sure because look at the fighters that beat Oscar when we was at his peak.

And I will say that I have never seen Hatton hurt like he was against Mayweather and his corner was throwing in the towel at the stoppage.

To me, they did him a favor.

After Mayweather landed that peach of a left hook it was game over. The fight was definately stopped at the right time. Hatton has never been hit as hard as that - it's not so much the power as the leverage and timing he gets on his punches, they are so damn clean.

I can see your point regarding De La Hoya - Mosely beat him twice (definetly the first time, questionably the second) and maybe Mayweather would have done the same. But it's all academic cos it didn't happen. Would have been close either way.

[binnie]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
I don't see anyone mentioning Paul Williams at 147.

He throws over 1000 punches a fight and is over 6'0 tall and beat Margarito for his belt in his last fight didn't he?

I would have mentioned Kermit Cintron - he's also 6' and punches damn hard. I think he has bags of potential, but his defense is to poor to be of any real threat to the big guns just yet....

[ALinChainz]

Cintron is badass ... no question ... he needs a couple tough tests as well.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
And I will say that I have never seen Hatton hurt like he was against Mayweather and his corner was throwing in the towel at the stoppage.

To me, they did him a favor.

True, but I still think it was the faceplant into the turnstile that did more damage than Floyd's actual power...
though that left hook (and the one before the stoppage) was a thing of beauty...

[binnie]

Apparently, Jermain Taylor wants Calzaghe if he beats Pavlick. That's the buzz at the moment.....

[ALinChainz]

Floyd sits pretty atop boxing poll

By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports

December 13, 2007


Floyd Mayweather Jr. solidified his place atop the Yahoo! Sports boxing rankings with his 10th-round stoppage of Ricky Hatton on Saturday.

It did not, though, come without a price. Mayweather said Thursday that he was in great pain throughout his training camp and that he needs a long rest to allow back, elbow and hand injuries to heal.

Mayweather said Thursday by telephone from New York, where he was taping a segment for HBO's rebroadcast of his fight with Hatton, that he injured his elbow during sparring with Carlos Baldomir.

He further added that his upper back was hurting, which limited his mobility.

"Boxing has taken one hell of a toll on me and my body is breaking down now," the 30-year-old Mayweather said, five days after his 39th professional fight. "I'm not the same now as when I was younger. My body is telling me the time is getting close when I can't do this any more."

He said he needs a long vacation and wouldn't commit to fighting again at all. While he stopped short of saying he's going to retire, he said he won't fight unless his body feels better than it does now.

He praised his most logical next potential opponent, WBA welterweight champion Miguel Cotto, but wouldn't commit to facing the Puerto Rican star at some point.

"I don't have to beat anyone to prove anything about my skills and my talents, because my credentials speak for themselves," Mayweather said. "Cotto is a good, young fighter; a good, young champion. I have nothing negative to say about him. He has had some nice wins. There are a lot of good, young fighters out there. He's definitely one of them, maybe one of the best."

Mayweather said he had the television turned down in his locker room before the fight and said he wasn't aware the largely British crowd was so resoundingly booing the U.S. national anthem.

A member of the 1996 U.S. Olympic team, Mayweather said he could hear the crowd booing but wasn't sure what it was about. When he learned of it after the fight, he said he was upset.

"It brought tears to my eyes," he said. "I was on the Olympics. I represented my country. This victory, more than any other I've had, I fought for my country. I had my country on my back. I was respectful toward Ricky Hatton and all of his fans, but that was totally disrespectful to this country. I'm pretty sure Ricky Hatton would tell you that was wrong, too. It bothers me they did that."

The top seven spots in the rankings remained as they were in November. Hatton dropped out and the fighters who were below him moved up a notch.

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Points: 198 (18 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 39-0 (25 KOs)
Title: WBC welterweight champion
Last outing: Stopped Ricky Hatton in the 10th on Dec. 8
Last month’s ranking: 1
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Clearly the most complete and most gifted fighter in the world

2. Manny Pacquiao

Points: 171 (1 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 45-3-2 (35 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: Won a unanimous decision over Marco Antonio Barrera on Oct. 6
Last month’s ranking: 2
Up next: Fights No. 6 Juan Manuel Marquez on March 15 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Continues to face top opposition

3. Joe Calzaghe

Points: 159 (1 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 44-0 (32 KOs)
Title: WBA, WBC, WBO super middleweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Mikkel Kessler on Nov. 3
Last month’s ranking: 3
Up next: Negotiating for spring bout with No. 5 Bernard Hopkins
Analysis: A win over Hopkins would greatly raise his profile among American fans.

4. Miguel Cotto

Points: 122
Record: 31-0 (25 KOs)
Title: WBA welterweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Shane Mosley on Nov. 10
Last month’s ranking: 4
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Fans are beginning to clamor for a 2008 match with Mayweather

5. Juan Manuel Marquez

Points: 92
Record: 48-3-1 (35 KOs)
Title: WBC super featherweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Rocky Juarez on Nov. 3
Last month’s ranking: 6
Up next: Faces No. 2 Manny Pacquiao on March 15 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Vastly underrated boxer

6. Bernard Hopkins

Points: 91
Record: 48-4 (32 KOs)
Title: Light heavyweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over No. 10 Winky Wright on July 21
Last month’s ranking: 5
Up next: Negotiating for spring bout with No. 3 Joe Calzaghe
Analysis: Could move into third-spot with win over Calzaghe

7. Israel Vazquez

Points: 60
Record: 42-4 (31 KOs)
Title: WBC super bantamweight champion
Last outing: Stopped Rafael Marquez in probable Fight of the Year on Aug. 5 in Hidalgo, Texas
Last month’s ranking: 7
Up next: Fights rubber match with Marquez on March 1
Analysis: The best of the lower weight fighters (under 126)

8. Kelly Pavlik

Points: 58
Record: 32-0 (29 KOs)
Title: WBC, WBO middleweight champion
Last outing: Won middleweight title with seventh-round TKO of Jermain Taylor on Sept. 29
Last month’s ranking: 9
Up next: Rematch with Taylor on Feb. 16 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Hardest puncher in the top 10

9. Juan Diaz

Points: 32
Record: 33-0 (17 KOs)
Title: IBF, WBA, WBO lightweight champion
Last outing: Unified belts with ninth-round TKO of Julio Diaz on Oct. 13
Last month’s ranking: T10
Up next: Considering bout with mandatory challenger Michael Katsidis
Analysis: Volume puncher always delivers an exciting show

10. Winky Wright

Points: 24
Record: 51-4-1 (25 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: Lost unanimous decision to No. 5 Bernard Hopkins on July 21
Last month’s ranking: T10
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Waiting in the wings if negotiations for a Hopkins-Calzaghe fizzle

Others receiving votes: Ricky Hatton, 17; Ivan Calderon, 14; Rafael Marquez, 13; Wladimir Klitschko, 12; Paul Williams, 11; Chad Dawson, 6; Chris John, 5; Cristian Mijares, 5; Shane Mosley, 3; Mikkel Kessler, 2; Jermain Taylor, 2.

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=ApfX0jmrO54orQ0H9263JTw5nYcB?slug=ki-boxrankings121307&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[LoungeMachine]

Don't forget Brian "The Beast" Minto is fighting Dec. 30th.

It's in a parking lot of a race track in Butler PA.

Beats the days when he fought at the local Days Inn.

[Unchainme]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Don't forget Brian "The Beast" Minto is fighting Dec. 30th.

It's in a parking lot of a race track in Butler PA.

Beats the days when he fought at the local Days Inn.

Will Joe Thunder be there?

[ALinChainz]

Absolutely.

Promoting his new project:

"Under the Bleachers With Joey T."

[Unchainme]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Absolutely.

Promoting his new project:

"Under the Bleachers With Joey T."

LMMFAO!

I sorta wish he was unbanned, it was fun watching you bitchslap his pathetic ass everywhere...oh and Kip too!

Joe Thudner=Yinzer

http://www.pittsburghbrownsbackers.com/yinzometer.htm

http://pittsburghbrownsbackers.com/PBBYinzer.html

[binnie]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Floyd sits pretty atop boxing poll

By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports

December 13, 2007


Floyd Mayweather Jr. solidified his place atop the Yahoo! Sports boxing rankings with his 10th-round stoppage of Ricky Hatton on Saturday.

It did not, though, come without a price. Mayweather said Thursday that he was in great pain throughout his training camp and that he needs a long rest to allow back, elbow and hand injuries to heal.

Mayweather said Thursday by telephone from New York, where he was taping a segment for HBO's rebroadcast of his fight with Hatton, that he injured his elbow during sparring with Carlos Baldomir.

He further added that his upper back was hurting, which limited his mobility.

"Boxing has taken one hell of a toll on me and my body is breaking down now," the 30-year-old Mayweather said, five days after his 39th professional fight. "I'm not the same now as when I was younger. My body is telling me the time is getting close when I can't do this any more."

He said he needs a long vacation and wouldn't commit to fighting again at all. While he stopped short of saying he's going to retire, he said he won't fight unless his body feels better than it does now.

He praised his most logical next potential opponent, WBA welterweight champion Miguel Cotto, but wouldn't commit to facing the Puerto Rican star at some point.

"I don't have to beat anyone to prove anything about my skills and my talents, because my credentials speak for themselves," Mayweather said. "Cotto is a good, young fighter; a good, young champion. I have nothing negative to say about him. He has had some nice wins. There are a lot of good, young fighters out there. He's definitely one of them, maybe one of the best."

Mayweather said he had the television turned down in his locker room before the fight and said he wasn't aware the largely British crowd was so resoundingly booing the U.S. national anthem.

A member of the 1996 U.S. Olympic team, Mayweather said he could hear the crowd booing but wasn't sure what it was about. When he learned of it after the fight, he said he was upset.

"It brought tears to my eyes," he said. "I was on the Olympics. I represented my country. This victory, more than any other I've had, I fought for my country. I had my country on my back. I was respectful toward Ricky Hatton and all of his fans, but that was totally disrespectful to this country. I'm pretty sure Ricky Hatton would tell you that was wrong, too. It bothers me they did that."

The top seven spots in the rankings remained as they were in November. Hatton dropped out and the fighters who were below him moved up a notch.

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Points: 198 (18 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 39-0 (25 KOs)
Title: WBC welterweight champion
Last outing: Stopped Ricky Hatton in the 10th on Dec. 8
Last month’s ranking: 1
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Clearly the most complete and most gifted fighter in the world

2. Manny Pacquiao

Points: 171 (1 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 45-3-2 (35 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: Won a unanimous decision over Marco Antonio Barrera on Oct. 6
Last month’s ranking: 2
Up next: Fights No. 6 Juan Manuel Marquez on March 15 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Continues to face top opposition

3. Joe Calzaghe

Points: 159 (1 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 44-0 (32 KOs)
Title: WBA, WBC, WBO super middleweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Mikkel Kessler on Nov. 3
Last month’s ranking: 3
Up next: Negotiating for spring bout with No. 5 Bernard Hopkins
Analysis: A win over Hopkins would greatly raise his profile among American fans.

4. Miguel Cotto

Points: 122
Record: 31-0 (25 KOs)
Title: WBA welterweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Shane Mosley on Nov. 10
Last month’s ranking: 4
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Fans are beginning to clamor for a 2008 match with Mayweather

5. Juan Manuel Marquez

Points: 92
Record: 48-3-1 (35 KOs)
Title: WBC super featherweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Rocky Juarez on Nov. 3
Last month’s ranking: 6
Up next: Faces No. 2 Manny Pacquiao on March 15 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Vastly underrated boxer

6. Bernard Hopkins

Points: 91
Record: 48-4 (32 KOs)
Title: Light heavyweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over No. 10 Winky Wright on July 21
Last month’s ranking: 5
Up next: Negotiating for spring bout with No. 3 Joe Calzaghe
Analysis: Could move into third-spot with win over Calzaghe

7. Israel Vazquez

Points: 60
Record: 42-4 (31 KOs)
Title: WBC super bantamweight champion
Last outing: Stopped Rafael Marquez in probable Fight of the Year on Aug. 5 in Hidalgo, Texas
Last month’s ranking: 7
Up next: Fights rubber match with Marquez on March 1
Analysis: The best of the lower weight fighters (under 126)

8. Kelly Pavlik

Points: 58
Record: 32-0 (29 KOs)
Title: WBC, WBO middleweight champion
Last outing: Won middleweight title with seventh-round TKO of Jermain Taylor on Sept. 29
Last month’s ranking: 9
Up next: Rematch with Taylor on Feb. 16 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Hardest puncher in the top 10

9. Juan Diaz

Points: 32
Record: 33-0 (17 KOs)
Title: IBF, WBA, WBO lightweight champion
Last outing: Unified belts with ninth-round TKO of Julio Diaz on Oct. 13
Last month’s ranking: T10
Up next: Considering bout with mandatory challenger Michael Katsidis
Analysis: Volume puncher always delivers an exciting show

10. Winky Wright

Points: 24
Record: 51-4-1 (25 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: Lost unanimous decision to No. 5 Bernard Hopkins on July 21
Last month’s ranking: T10
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Waiting in the wings if negotiations for a Hopkins-Calzaghe fizzle

Others receiving votes: Ricky Hatton, 17; Ivan Calderon, 14; Rafael Marquez, 13; Wladimir Klitschko, 12; Paul Williams, 11; Chad Dawson, 6; Chris John, 5; Cristian Mijares, 5; Shane Mosley, 3; Mikkel Kessler, 2; Jermain Taylor, 2.

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

That's one of the best PFP lists I've seen. If i was nitpicking, I'd put Calzaghe at no.2 above Pacquiano, but that's just been picky...

[binnie]

Edwin Valero remains unbeaten. From ESPN

Edwin Valero kept his knockout and undefeated streaks alive by stopping Zaid Zavaleta in the third round of their WBA super featherweight title match at the Plaza de Toros in Cancun on Saturday.


Valero (23-0, 23 KOs) knocked Zavaleta down near the end of first round with a barrage of punches but Zavaleta managed to beat the count.

Referee Luis Pabon looked close to stopping the bout on several occasions in the second round as Valero unloaded with a variety of hooks and crosses while Zavaleta did his best to hold on and tie up Valero on the inside.

A combination of body punches followed by a left hook as Zavaleta was pinned against the ropes forced Pabon to step in at 1:18 of third round and prevent Zavaleta from taking further punishment.

On the undercard, Jorge Linares retained his WBC featherweight title by stopping Gamaliel Diaz in the eighth round.

Linares (25-0, 16 KOs) had Diaz down and nearly out in the fourth round but Diaz fought back gamely. The Venezuelan put Diaz down again with a right hand late in Round 8 and this time, Diaz could not beat the count.

[binnie]

Anyone gets a chance to see an Edwin Valero fight, I thoroughly recommend it. He is one of the hardest poud for pound punches I have ever seen.

[binnie]

from boxingscene.com

Winky is Back; Calls out Pavlik, Calzaghe, Oscar Recommend this page Printable version Search BoxingScene Database



By Mark Vester

Ronald "Winky" Wright (51-4, 25KOs) is back, planning a March return and calling out every big name from 154 to 168. Wright, who last fought in July, dropping a unanimous decision to Bernard Hopkins at a catch-weight of 170-pounds, will return to middleweight limit of 160-pounds for the March return, and then drop down to 154-pounds. Wright spoke with Puerto Rican media outlet Endi, and indicated that he wants bouts with Kelly Pavlik, Joe Calzaghe and Oscar De La Hoya.

"I'm supposed to be fighting in March. I'm seeking the best possible opponent. My intention is to fight at 160-pounds and then drop down to 154-pounds. Joe Calzaghe launched a challenge at me and I launched one back. Maybe the fight will happen. I would also like to fight the winner of the rematch between Jermain Taylor and Kelly Pavlik," Wright said. "The fight I want most is with Oscar De La Hoya. I've wanted that fight for a long time. He keeps saying that he never ran from a challenge and fights everyone, but he always runs from me and I've beaten the fighters who beat him (Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley)."

Wright is good friends with Roy Jones Jr. and Felix Trinidad, who collide on Jan. 19 at New York's Madison Square Garden. Wright would not predict a winner, but thinks it's going to be a good fight.

"It's a good fight with two big names. On one hand, Jones has so much velocity and on the other, Trinidad may have resolved all the problems from the loss to me. I think he underestimated me in that fight and the same thing won't happen here. I think it says a lot about him as a fighter for choosing to face someone like Roy Jones for his return because he could have returned against anyone. I like both fighters. I won't make a prediction. I hope the best man wins," Wright said.