The Army Boxing Thread

[TFM_Dale]

Let's hope Floyd cares more for the "0", than the millions.

I'm sorry, but boxing is the most corrupt sport ever.

No argument here.

[jhale667]

Indeed. Again, you KNOW Floyd's studied the Marquez punch and will land it on him all night even if he doesn't have/use the power to knock him out with it; Larry Kellerman or whatever-the-fuck his name is mentioned he's noticed no adjustment from Manny to avoiding that shot. Marquez got robbed on at least one of those other fights with Pac and Floyd made Marquez - one of the best boxer/brawlers of our generation - look like a fucking idiot. Agree outside of an again, LUCKY haymaker, it's not even going to be close. From that video I watched I think the game-plan is totally outbox and utterly humiliate him.

[Von Halen]

Max Kellerman, or Larry Merchant.

[jhale667]

It was Max Kellerman.

[binnie]

Thought the rematch clause was regardless of who wins... I can almost see them trying to milk it for a "trilogy", but Floyd in addition to not wanting to let his "0" go, only has one fight left (two tops) before his supposed retirement IIRC.

Yeah, if it's remotely competitive there will be a rematch. Who the fuck is either guy going to fight next?

[binnie]

Indeed. Again, you KNOW Floyd's studied the Marquez punch and will land it on him all night even if he doesn't have/use the power to knock him out with it; Larry Kellerman or whatever-the-fuck his name is mentioned he's noticed no adjustment from Manny to avoiding that shot. Marquez got robbed on at least one of those other fights with Pac and Floyd made Marquez - one of the best boxer/brawlers of our generation - look like a fucking idiot. Agree outside of an again, LUCKY haymaker, it's not even going to be close. From that video I watched I think the game-plan is totally outbox and utterly humiliate him.

Styles make fights. I used to think that Mayweather would dominate Pacman, but now I think it will be a closer fight. The Maidanna fights changed my opinion: like Maidanna, Manny throws unorthodox punches from crazy angles. Because it's not text book, Floyd's defence isn't as water-tight as usual. Manny throws more punches that Maidanna, but he hasn't got the same power and isn't as big (size advantage allowed Maidanna to bully Floyd a bit and move him around the ring). Expect the early rounds to be close, a bit like the Hatton fight.

I don't see a KO. Floyd will be too cautious to go looking for one. I expect Floyd to use the jab more than he normally does, and to be looking for body shots (like he did in Maidanna II).

[binnie]

If you guys want to see a great fight, watch Ruslan Provodnikov vs Lucas Matthyse this Saturday (140lbs)

[jhale667]

Yeah, if it's remotely competitive there will be a rematch. Who the fuck is either guy going to fight next?

I saw something recently trying to play up a match with Amir Khan saying "he'd give Floyd more problems than Manny will" due to his almost if-not equal speed. Big difference: Khan has a glass jaw. They may be a match speed-wise, but as far as overall boxing skills and ring generalship - Floyd would eventually catch him.


Agree styles make fights, but Pac's style is mostly rush in and overwhelm. But realistically - he's not big enough to bully Floyd, nor does he have the reach to catch him with some of those weird angles. So unless Pac *somehow* makes it a phone-booth fight, his speed will be blunted, and a lot of those wild shots will be blocked.

[binnie]

I saw something recently trying to play up a match with Amir Khan saying "he'd give Floyd more problems than Manny will" due to his almost if-not equal speed. Big difference: Khan has a glass jaw. They may be a match speed-wise, but as far as overall boxing skills and ring generalship - Floyd would eventually catch him.


Agree styles make fights, but Pac's style is mostly rush in and overwhelm. But realistically - he's not big enough to bully Floyd, nor does he have the reach to catch him with some of those weird angles. So unless Pac *somehow* makes it a phone-booth fight, his speed will be blunted, and a lot of those wild shots will be blocked.

The only thing that could make a Khan-Mayweather fight happen is $$$$. If enough interest to sell 80,000 tickets for Wembley can be drummed up, it is viable. Personally, I think that Khan - who quite like - should focus on re-matching Maidanna, Garcia, Peterson and hunting down Tim Bradley. A couple of victories would make him a more credible opponent.

[binnie]

If you guys want to see a great fight, watch Ruslan Provodnikov vs Lucas Matthyse this Saturday (140lbs)

Holy fuck, THAT was a war. Watch the replay if you get a chance!

[chuckjitsu]

After Provodnikov suffered that nasty cut early, I figured there'd be no way it would go the distance. Figured that cut would get worse and worse and would lead to a stoppage.

[binnie]

It has 'fight of the year' and 'rematch' written all over it!

[jhale667]

Finally caught a replay of that....that cut was nasty from the start. No quit in either of those guys, very entertaining fight.


A buddy who's a huge fight fan texted me as I was leaving for lunch today.. Mayweather/Pacquiao almost fell through today due to a last-minute contract dispute. Fight's in 10 days, final contracts still hadn't been signed. Each side blaming the other. Hour or so later get another text "Issue resolved". But if so, what the actual fuck? The media & public backlash against both of them would have been horrific.

[binnie]

Suspect that was a marketting ploy, J. Can't imagine that HBO/Showtime would have let that fly.....

[binnie]

Well, we're only one week away so let's have some predictions.

I'll say Mayweather UD 116-112.