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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Raphael marquez stopped Vasquez in 3 - the cuts were decisive, and t seems that there is too mch scar tissue onVasquez's eyes for him to be effective anymore. Kudos to Mrquez, but Vasquez should retire now.
    Yeah, seems the scar tissue is going to prevent him from continuing on as a fighter...he seemed to open up pretty easily, especially to be cut up THAT badly by the 3rd round...holy crap.
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    I bet what Vasquez is going to do is have plastic surgery on the eye where they take some skin from somewhere else on his body and make a patch over the scar tissue on his eye, like a bandaid of skin. Thus if it were to get cut again, it would not cut in the patched area but to the top of it. Seems like at 32 it might not be worth the risk, but with fighters going into their late 30's these days and being viable money draws, i'm sure Vasquez thinks that he would be selling himself short by retiring. I don't think he made a ton of money until the Marquez series started so i can't blame the guy.
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    I know what you mean, but the guys who go into their late 30s and 40s are usually slick boxers not fighters - Vasquez must know he's not the man he once was, and I'd hate to see him get hurt.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    I know what you mean, but the guys who go into their late 30s and 40s are usually slick boxers not fighters - Vasquez must know he's not the man he once was, and I'd hate to see him get hurt.......
    That's 2 good points in that one statement. I'm with you.

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    This weekend:

    Yuri Foreman vs. Miguel Cotto

    Hoping it will be a good fight as opposed to a Cotto blowout.

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    I think that Cotto may have bitten off more than he can chew.....

    Vitali Klitschko KO'd the guy whose name I can't spell (Albert Sonorowski?) on Saturday. Didn't even bother with a prediction, as I figured it was a foregone conclusion. Albert fought with heart, but I'm surprised how long he lasted - maybe Vitali is getting old..........

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    I had never even heard of Albert and didn't know where he came from. Were you familiar with him Binnie?

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    Not really, I'd seen a few of his fights - he's one of the best fighters at European level, and quite talented. More of a prospect than a contender at this stage though.........

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    Cotto looked re-juvenated against Foreman. Good to see him going back to what he does best: hitting the body. BAM.

    More impressively, he also learned to pick his shots better and that patience can be more rewarding than relentlessnes. He's just made 154 even more interesting - not so sure he comes anywhere near to ruiling it (Martinez/Williams, to name but two) but he is a key player, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Cotto looked re-juvenated against Foreman. Good to see him going back to what he does best: hitting the body. BAM.

    More impressively, he also learned to pick his shots better and that patience can be more rewarding than relentlessnes. He's just made 154 even more interesting - not so sure he comes anywhere near to ruiling it (Martinez/Williams, to name but two) but he is a key player, that's for sure.
    Interesting you mention those two names, because that's who they were saying he could do well at 154 UNLESS he got in the ring with either of them...I tend to agree.

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    How about a big hand for Yuri Foreman for showing his metal. The kid has guts, i'll give him that. He made the fight and decided to go out with glory instead of quitting. We don't get that very often in the sport anymore.

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    Absolutely, hats off to him. Whilst he certainly showed guts, however, he didn't show much ring I.Q - he was the boxer in that ring, not Cotto, and he should have been moving more to making use of his size/reach advantage. Maybe the ring I.Q will come with age - he's got potential.

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    Andre Ward - Allan Green Saturday: Super-Six RD 2.

    Hats off to Green for stepping up to the plate in replacing Jermain Taylor. He has little to lose, which makes him a dangerous opponent, a danger amplified by the fact that he posses genuine one punch KO power. Green is a very good boxer-puncher, a relatively untested talent whose abilites are difficult to gauge because he has fought for much of his career with an illness and/or injury: the blemish against Edison Miranda (who Ward spanked) is genuinely seen to be due to Green's ailments rather than a fundamental lack of talent.

    It would certainly make the Super Six more interesting were Green to pull-off an upset, but it seems unlikely to happen. Sure, you can never rule out a KO (especially with questions over Ward's chin) but Ward has been in with two big punchers in his last three outings (Miranda and Kessler) and he trumped them by not letting them use that power. I see a similar affair on Saturday: Ward using his speed, rapid-fire work-rate and rough-house (read:illegal) tactics on the inside to smother Green, to stop him working and fighting the fight he wants to fight. Is Green tough enough to take the drubbing for 12 rounds? We'll see: I'll give him the benefit of the doubt a predict a Ward UD.

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    You nailed it.

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    Interesting fight just announced between Casamayor and "The Ghost" Guerrero.....

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=5294212

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    On first thoughts, I think Casamayora is a little old to be competitive in that one.....

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    Ward-Green was a complete shut-out: 120-108 three times over in Ward's favour.

    Ward looked impressive, but he was helped by a frankly dire performance by Green. Utter shit - Jerman Taylor would have been a tougher test....

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    A snoozer it was. I had a tough time staying up for that one. Doesn't exactly make me look forward to Green's next Super 6 bout.

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    Green-Kessler might be interesting. Kessler, whilst tough as nails, is not the man he once was and Green will have a vast size advantage. That being said, I'm not at all convinced that Green is world class.

    Dirrell-Ward will be really interesting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Dirrell-Ward will be really interesting....
    No doubt. I am really looking forward to that one.

    Any thoughts on Chavez Jr vs John Duddy this weekend? It is a pretty cool card considering you get to see Jorge Arce fight as well as Marco Antonio Bererra.

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    I think Duddy has enough to edge out Chavez, cuts permitting.....

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    Howdy fight fans. Here's one for all you crazy UK boxing freaks . November 13th manchester MEN will be host to what is dubbed the Battle of Britain seeing WBA champion The Hayemaker David Haye taking on olympic gold medalist A Force Audley Harrison.Now im more of a casual boxing fan today but a few years back i was big into it and i must say this fight is being built up to be a classic.Haye and Harrison are one time bud's but things have recently turned sour. Harrison states Haye failed to help him out with a place on an undercard when he was in need,Which got him pissed after Harrison gave the younger Haye advice in his early career.Haye has been running his mouth to the press about what he is going to do to harrison saying " It will be violent but prolonged. A public execution. He must be crazy and delusional because he genuinely seems to believe that he can win this fight. The only respect I can give him is that he kept going all these years even though he was a laughing stock".A true Rocky and Apollo build up if ever i seen one.Now my personal feeling is that Haye will knock him the fuck out, Considering his previous record for knocking big ass monsters out.Should be cool

    Any one interested?
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    Floyd Mayweather Jr. arrested on felony theft charge in domestic case

    Boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. was arrested Friday in Las Vegas and charged with felony theft related to a domestic violence complaint filed by a former girlfriend.

    Mayweather, 33, was booked Friday on a grand larceny charge and was held on $3,000 bail, Las Vegas police Officer Bill Cassell told the Associated Press.

    Richard Wright, Mayweather's attorney, said the boxer was accused of taking an iPhone from Josie Harris, the mother of three of his children. "He did not commit any grand larceny," Wright told the AP.

    On Thursday, Harris made a police complaint and sought a Family Court protection order and alleged that Mayweather punched her in the head and twisted her arm.


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    First ducking Pac-Man (someone he should be able to destroy with ease), making racist comments about him (referencing the WRONG RACE, btw... lol) and now this? WTF is up with Floyd lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    Howdy fight fans. Here's one for all you crazy UK boxing freaks . November 13th manchester MEN will be host to what is dubbed the Battle of Britain seeing WBA champion The Hayemaker David Haye taking on olympic gold medalist A Force Audley Harrison.Now im more of a casual boxing fan today but a few years back i was big into it and i must say this fight is being built up to be a classic.Haye and Harrison are one time bud's but things have recently turned sour. Harrison states Haye failed to help him out with a place on an undercard when he was in need,Which got him pissed after Harrison gave the younger Haye advice in his early career.Haye has been running his mouth to the press about what he is going to do to harrison saying " It will be violent but prolonged. A public execution. He must be crazy and delusional because he genuinely seems to believe that he can win this fight. The only respect I can give him is that he kept going all these years even though he was a laughing stock".A true Rocky and Apollo build up if ever i seen one.Now my personal feeling is that Haye will knock him the fuck out, Considering his previous record for knocking big ass monsters out.Should be cool

    Any one interested?

    This is a mis-match, to be honest. Audley may have been a good amateur, but he's done next to nothing as a professional in the past 10 years, being beaten by some guys that Haye would even use as sparrin partners. There's always the chance that Haye gets tagged by a big shot and KO'ed, but in all liklihood this will end in a brutal stoppage for him - I'll be surprized if Audley lasts 2 rounds.

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    Mayweather's conduct is disgraceful. It is also calculted.

    He plays the villain to sell PPV - he realizes a lot of fans shell out in the hope he'll be beaten. Personally, I think the Pacquiao fight is inevitable, and when it happens Mayweather will outbox him easily.

    Pacquiao is being a bit of a diva himself at the moment. Fighting Margaritto is a joke - the guy has had one comeback after 18 months off! Added to that, Pacman is enforcing yet another catchweight to ensure that yet another opponent enters the ring weakended. Joke.

    It's also a shame that Kessler has had to pull out of the Super Six because of a repetive cut above the eye. After the Froch victory, he seemed to be back on track and I for one was looking forward to watching him demolish Allan Green en route to the semi-final. He has take a year out - that kind if inactivity cannot be good at this stage of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Mayweather's conduct is disgraceful. It is also calculted.

    He plays the villain to sell PPV - he realizes a lot of fans shell out in the hope he'll be beaten. Personally, I think the Pacquiao fight is inevitable, and when it happens Mayweather will outbox him easily.

    Pacquiao is being a bit of a diva himself at the moment. Fighting Margaritto is a joke - the guy has had one comeback after 18 months off! Added to that, Pacman is enforcing yet another catchweight to ensure that yet another opponent enters the ring weakended. Joke.

    It's also a shame that Kessler has had to pull out of the Super Six because of a repetive cut above the eye. After the Froch victory, he seemed to be back on track and I for one was looking forward to watching him demolish Allan Green en route to the semi-final. He has take a year out - that kind if inactivity cannot be good at this stage of his career.
    Looks like Froch has hurt his back and is now going to have to delay the fight with Abraham. Unfortunately, the Super Six is turning into a mess. Ditto on your Audley mismatch post.

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    Mayweather is in some serious trouble. I didn't catch the entire story on ESPN, but he's looking at at least 8 charges, including threatening his children.

    EDIT: Here's an update from the ESPN site...

    Floyd Mayweather charged

    Eight charges -- including two felony counts of coercion for threatening his children -- have been filed in Nevada against Floyd Mayweather Jr. stemming from a domestic violence incident last week, according to reports in Las Vegas.

    Mayweather also has been charged with a felony count of robbery and one of grand larceny, in addition to four misdemeanors -- one for battery domestic violence and three for harassment, according to reports in the Las Vegas Review-Journal and the Las Vegas Sun.

    According to a police arrest report made public Monday, Mayweather threatened to kill 30-year-old Josie Harris and her new boyfriend during an argument early Sept. 9 at a home in southwest Las Vegas, and stating, "I'm going to have you both disappear," according to the report.

    Mayweather's lawyers on Monday denied wrongdoing on his behalf.

    "We are confident the full picture will come out in the future and clarify the situation," defense attorney Karen Winckler said.

    According to the police report, Mayweather was angry about her relationship with another man, and both say Mayweather grabbed Harris by her hair, hit her and twisted her arm while yelling that he would kill her.

    The couple have three children, ages 7 to 10. Harris told authorities they had a 15-year "on and off" relationship, and lived together for seven years before separating in May.

    Police say Mayweather threatened to beat the children if they left the house or called police.

    According to the police, Koraun Mayweather, the oldest child, said he saw his father "hitting and kicking" his mother. When Koraun tried to run from the house, James McNair, an associate who had accompanied Mayweather to the house, blocked the door, the Review-Journal reported.

    The newspaper also reported that according to the police account, Koraun fled through the back door, climbed over a security gate and asked for help from a guard.

    Harris was treated for minor injuries at a hospital.

    Mayweather, 33, was arrested and jailed briefly Sept. 10 on an original charge of felony grand larceny for allegedly stealing Harris' iPhone. He was released that day on $3,000 bail, and the district attorney's office said at the time that it was reviewing other charges.

    A court date for Mayweather is set for Nov. 9.


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    Such a shame, for all involved.

    Limiting my comments to boxing, it is a shame that all of this stuff gets in the way of us seeing arguably the most gifted boxer of all time fight more frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonrisa salvaje View Post
    Looks like Froch has hurt his back and is now going to have to delay the fight with Abraham. Unfortunately, the Super Six is turning into a mess. Ditto on your Audley mismatch post.
    It has turned into a mess, but it still gives us three more good fights: Froch-Abraham, Ward-Dirrell, and whoever the final is between.

    I'm gutted for Kessler, to be honest.

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    A lil' David Haye Audley Harrison update.David Haye has caused outrage recently among women’s groups and rape victims hyping up his fight.He recently stated it would be “as one-sided as a gang-rape"(what was he thinking?).He has gone on further to try and make ammends in interviews by saying he did not say he was going to gang rape Harrison,it simply was designed to shock, and demonstrate just how bitter Haye feels towards Harrison.

    Haye will probably call him an "Uncle Tom" next,or threaten to eat his children

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    Boxers aren't sensitive and erudite? Who knew?
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    Anyway a recent survey found that 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Mayweather, 33, was arrested and jailed briefly Sept. 10 on an original charge of felony grand larceny for allegedly stealing Harris' iPhone. [/I]

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...=ESPNHeadlines
    Jeez iPhone's are expensive...

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    Good news for fight fans. November 20th is the rematch for Martinez and Williams. Finally a decent fight in a year fool of lackluster and one sided events.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=5597500

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    It should be a real classic - a 50/50 fight

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    The Super Six had the potnetial to be great - bad luck and big egos have marred it.

    Glen Johnson is in it now - I'm intrigued to see how he'll make 168lbs! Not too sure how Allan Green will deal with him though....

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    Apparently Shannon Briggs is in the shape of his life for Vitali Klitischko. Let's hope we actually get a heavyweight fight that's worth watching. Given that Briggs has a habot of underperforming and hasn;t fought at thetope for years, I don't see t happening.

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    I'm with you on that. I don't know how the hell Glenn is going to make that weight. If he does i would think that it would zap him of his strength and endurance. Could Johnson not making weight be the next shoe to drop in the curse of the Super 6?

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