Indeed.
Can't say I'm interested in Manny-Cotto II. The tag-line for the fight should be 'What's the Point?'
Manny-JMM IV, on the other hand, I'm liking.
Indeed.
Can't say I'm interested in Manny-Cotto II. The tag-line for the fight should be 'What's the Point?'
Manny-JMM IV, on the other hand, I'm liking.
The Power Of The Riff Compels Me
I don't think so because Manny has lost before, Floyd on the other hand is undefeated and that is a REALLY big deal to him.Originally Posted by jhale667
"Don't want 'em to get you goat, don't show 'em where it's hid." - David Lee Roth
Sugar ray-Mayweather.Now that would be a good fight
I really love you baby, I love what you've got
Let's get together we can, Get hot
It would be a great fight.
Realistically, however, SRL is a LOT bigger than FMjr. The fight could only have taken place at 147 - despite his dominance there, Floyd is not a natural welter weight (he was untouchable at 130 or 135). I'd have to say that SRR would win at that weight - I expect it might end up looking a little like the Benitez fight.
P4P, Floyd might be a better fighter. But head to head he can't beat Ray because of the size difference.
How's about Floyd and Pernell Whitaker
That would be the chess match of all chess matches!
Floyd UD. At any weight.
The guys Floyd would struggle with (off the top of my head):
Duran at 135 (but not at 147)
Hearns at 147 (too tall, great jab)
Forrest at 147 (ditto Hearns, but with better footwork)
Donald Curry at 147
It gets harder to imagine these fantasy match ups the further back in time you go because the game was so different then. At 135lbs today, for instance, is naturally much bigger than a 135lbers in 1950. That being said, I honestly believe that Floyd is arguably GOAT at 130, and had the potential to be at 135. But who wouldn't give a kidney to see match ups with Kid Gavilan, Henry Armstrong, and so on.....?
Fantasy boxing bouts one of my fav games when am on the piss.. you can argue for hours over it .
fuck your fucking framing
Yup.
It's both a lot of fun and very frustrating at the same time. We start a couple regarding heavyweights from different eras a few pages back if you're interested....
There's that, but both fighters have made short work out of opponents the other has taken longer with (Hatton, for example) or like the case of JMM - Manny struggles with him, and Floyd made him look like a dumbass. Manny's touted as the greatest P4P right now, but (unlike Floyd) he's not... sure, Floyd stands to lose his undefeated record, possibly on a flash knockdown/out - Manny stands a way better chance of getting completely humiliated for 12 rounds IMO...
Cheers will check em out
I think it will be closer than manny getting humiliated for 12 rounds ..... or i hope so or thats gonna be a major disapointment
We can go back and forth about this all day, but in reality it's all about the fighter's teams than the fighters themselves.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I'd say the biggest problem is Arum.
Rumour at the moment is that Pacman will take on Timothy Bradley (who's never founght at 147); and Mayweather will take on Cotto.
Bradley is a good champ, and I have a lot of respect for him. But he's not even proven himself to be the best at 140, let alone done anything at 147. Like Pacman, he's relentless - if he comes to fight, we're in for a good show. But he has very little punching power, so it's zero danger for Manny in regards to losing. Given Bradley willingness to headbutt, however, I expect Manny will get cut (which only delays a future Mayweather showdown).
Cotto is Cotto: but he needs a guy to stand in front of him. His defence is also piss-poor (opponents usually connect with almost 50% of their shots!), and Floyd will pick him to pieces.
This will make you happy Binnie.
Miguel Cotto has turned down Pacquiao Fight at 147 saying " I will not sacrifice my body again for the benefit of another boxer. It won't happen at 147 pounds."
This makes me very happy - the last fight was at 145lbs, I think.
I'm sure that making weight weakened Cotto, but he was just out-classed to be honest. Piss-poor defence + opponent who throws 100 punches per round = pizza face.
This obviously means he'll only fight Floyd above 147. It'll be a catch weight, I imagine.
pizza face like it
Mayweather beats Miguel Cotto every time at whatever weight.The only thing's Cotto will get from fighting Floyd is a big pay day and a serious beating.I know Cotto is not scared of challenging himself,but against Floyd he only has a punchers chance
Cotto is a powerful fighter and as such he could threaten mayweather with his body shots but with mayweathers speed i think cotto would get picked to pieces IMHO
It would end up being like Mayweather Hatton
Yeah i totally get were your coming from with the similarities
I remember getting all caught up thinking Hatton would take Mayweather by cutting off the ring and destroying the body,Pressure Floyd against the ropes and let rip but Floyd is dam hard to catch,and when you do corner him you cant hit the guy.I like Cotto and he has heart but Floyd is just too good.Any day,any time,any year and any weight Floyd would take Cotto
Here we go into fantasy land again. a better fight would be Hatton Cotto at 140
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hatton cotto would have been a war
Cotto doesn't use his body work that much anymore, and to be honest his jab just isn't good enough to phase Floyd.
I don't see it being much like Hatton-Mayweather: Hatton was a relentless come forward fighter who liked to work inside, Cotto is more of a boxer/puncher.
Floyd pot-shots him all night, and goes to the body a lot (because Cotto is WAY open there most of the time).
Floyd will destroy Cotto, sorry.
In other news
Shane Mosley has been approached about potential fights with Saul "Canelo" Alvarez and Amir Khan.He says "They offered me a fight with Canelo and I was like, 'Yeah, I'll take it,'" Mosley said. "Then they came back to me and said, 'What about Amir Khan?'"
Khan needs to get this re match on with peterson and stop moaning about it and sort it in the ring
aint seen any alvarez bouts . any good ?
He is a well rounded boxer/puncher with good counter punching,Control's distance,good patience and technique and can finnish a fight.Far from perfect though.Not alot of head movement,more blocks and parries.A slick fighter could throw him off his game.You should check him out.Has a record of 40 fights 39 wins 29 KO 0 loss and 1 draw
will defo check him out .. you cant knock the dudes record
He is only young,21 I think.Not so sure about his opponents,Not really thought any top guys.He had a good showing against Kermit Cintron
I think Shane should forget about Khan - Shane has always struggled with tall fighters who have good jabs, and at this stage in his career Khan is too sharp and fast.
He's have a much better fight with Alvarez.
In reality, however, I think it's time for Shane to hang 'em up. The Pacman fight showed that the hunger has gone - no shame in that.
Shane seems like a different generation to pac etc .. tho they may not be that much in the age he just seems to have been around longer .
Dereck Chisora Vitali Klitschko,Anyone here betting against 40 year old Vitali?
No. This will be another brutal beating dished out by Vitali.
Chisora is game, but he's giving away considerable height and reach. I'd be surprised if it goes past 10.
Think it's a bit of a none fight , chisora ain't in the same league . I watched him against Tyson fury and didn't see much
Indeed: although he'd clearly under-prepared for Fury (no excuse). He's better than that performance, but nowhere near good enough for Vitali.
It all boils down to how much punishment he can - or wants to - take.
I don't really see Why Khan or Alvarez would want to fight Shane.It is not like they would get the top pound for pound fighter of the 2000's,Just a name in the records.They should both look for other fights with the top guys of their divisions.The fights would just make one last pay day for Shane before he steps out of the ring.I always find it quite sad when you see previously great fighters who are on the way out.Like Roy Jones Jr's last fight.That was sad to see,Or when Tyson lost to that bum Danny Williams.I hope Shane is not one of those guys who thinks he still has one great fight left in him
Shane undoubtedly does think that.
The reason Khan/Alvarez want him is for the payday/publicity. Alvarez might actually be too green for Shane, I'm undecided.
I would not say that is too crazy a statement.Mosley shines against aggressive fighters with no defence and Alvarez is not the sharpest knife in the defensive draw
I agree, without breaking a sweat. To bad Manny the fraud is to much of a pussy to step up.
As much as I would love to rag on Manny about this,At this point I really dont think it has anything to do with either fighter why the fight is not happening.It is that prick Bob Arum who is the pussy
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