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    More theatrics by Arum. He says he would refuse to promote a rematch.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing-...XBhZ2U-;_ylv=3

    Also, Bradley's manager, reveals that his fighter has some sort of genetic mutation in his foot. Either that or he is just a garden variety dumb ass.

    "He has a lot of pain on the top of the foot and there are 700 bones in there."
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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    This completely FUCKS Mayweather-Pacman, BTW. Pacman has zero bagaining power now, and there's no way uncle Arum is going to settle for a smaller piece of the pie.

    Funny, I figured it meant Pac had no choice but to accept the 60-40 split Mayweather proposed...he already didn't have the bargaining power to demand 50/50, this just confirms it.

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    He'd be lucky to get 70/30 right now.

    Arum will crumble and promote Bradley-Pacman II in the Fall in Mayweather doesn't get in first.
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    I can't stand Paq but he was robbed, if he does take the split Floyd wants their will be no question though, Paq-fraud will be getting his ass whipped. Still cracks me up that people still buy into the Paq hype, he wouldn't even be Floyd's toughest opponent if you ask me. I can only hope that fight actually happens but Arum is one of the world's biggest pieces of shit, I wouldn't put anything past him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I really hope that fucker get's hit by a car or something.The guy even said "I'll make a lot of money off the rematch"
    I'll drink to that.

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    Just my 2 cents .. But I just feel that the PAC mayweather fight is even further away now than ever
    I know PAC had lost before , and imho he didnt lose here , but this match took something away from pacs reputation .
    A lot of people i have talked to once they got over the shocking decion all commented on pacs work rate over the rounds , every one noticed he fought at most 1/3 of every round ...
    I don't think PAC has much leverage over the mayweather camp and has a little less now .

    Or as my dad said you dont get dodgy decions if you knock the fucker out
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post

    Or as my dad said you dont get dodgy decions if you knock the fucker out
    100% true. Boxing is notorious for shit decisions. I remember watching Chavez/Whitaker and wondering what the fuck happened or what I missed in the fight. It just totally ruins what was once a great sport but don't think for a second I feel bad as far as Paq-fraud goes, he has had more then his share of shit decisions in his favor.

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    Pac may have gotten robbed, but his performance in the fight further cements my opinion that Mayweather will DESTROY him...he couldn't decisively handle Bradley!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Pac may have gotten robbed, but his performance in the fight further cements my opinion that Mayweather will DESTROY him...he couldn't decisively handle Bradley!
    Oh yeah, Floyd would embarrass him, no doubt in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    Oh yeah, Floyd would embarrass him, no doubt in my mind.
    Nor in mine...I'm almost baffled as to why anyone ever thought he had a snowball's chance in hell.... and demanding a 50/50 split when his PPVs don't generate NEARLY the biz Mayweather's do? Arrogant.

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    I don't imagine that when mayweather sees the fight it will cause him many sleepless nights

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    I don't imagine that when mayweather sees the fight it will cause him many sleepless nights



    I imagine when the news of Pac's loss was relayed to him, he was like "LET ME OUT OF HERE!!!"

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    I am not sure if I ever thought he had a chance but I always thought it would be a good match up , but recently am not even
    Sure it would be that ....
    As for the percentages I always thought arum was just fucking with people .

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    I am not sure if I ever thought he had a chance but I always thought it would be a good match up , but recently am not even
    Sure it would be that ....
    As for the percentages I always thought arum was just fucking with people .
    Arum has quite the sh*tty reputation, that's for sure... but watching that fight ( rounds 9 and 12 had already been pulled on that link I posted, so I will watch it again on HBO this weekend), I'm more inclined to agree with Roger Mayweather's assessment that Manny "wouldn't last 5 rounds with my nephew".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Arum has quite the sh*tty reputation"[/I].
    Man it's so bad shitty is nearly a compliment

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    I was trying to be diplomatic...

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    The controversy certainly drums up interest though, doesn't it? This is the busiest this thread has been for a while, just saying.

    I have little doubt that Floyd beats Pacman. But 'destroys' or 'embarrases', I'm not so sure. Pacman's high workrate keeps him in it no matter what.

    Personally, I think Floyd lands straight rights and makes Pacman miss and keeps him off balance. Rounds 1-4 are close, but after that it's Money May all day and all night - so long as he stays away from that left hand!

    I'm actually keen to see Pacman-Bradley II, to be honest.

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    Here's why I think it won't even be close...

    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    The controversy certainly drums up interest though, doesn't it? This is the busiest this thread has been for a while, just saying.

    I have little doubt that Floyd beats Pacman. But 'destroys' or 'embarrases', I'm not so sure. Pacman's high workrate keeps him in it no matter what.

    Personally, I think Floyd lands straight rights and makes Pacman miss and keeps him off balance. Rounds 1-4 are close, but after that it's Money May all day and all night - so long as he stays away from that left hand!

    I'm actually keen to see Pacman-Bradley II, to be honest.
    You can say Pac took care of Hatton sooner, or whatever, but for my money (and you've agreed) JMM's beat Manny 3x - and Floyd embarassed HIM. Stands to reason he'd do the same if not worse to Manny, as JMM's defense is better...

    I'd agree the 1st few rounds might be interesting, but as soon as Floyd adjusted - and adjust he WOULD - Manny's night starts getting reeeeeally rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Pacman's high workrate keeps him in it no matter what.

    didnt saturday

    i think pac bradley 2 will happen and happen quick and i bet we dont see pac counting how many rounds before he can leave off the gas this time ...... then maybe they can go back to the mayweather table

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    You can say Pac took care of Hatton sooner, or whatever, but for my money (and you've agreed) JMM's beat Manny 3x - and Floyd embarassed HIM. Stands to reason he'd do the same if not worse to Manny, as JMM's defense is better...

    I'd agree the 1st few rounds might be interesting, but as soon as Floyd adjusted - and adjust he WOULD - Manny's night starts getting reeeeeally rough.
    I see the logic, but styles make fights.

    Yes, Floyd is a better counter puncher than JMM - but JMM is a come forward fighter prepared to trade with Manny and not let him have it all his own way. Floyd doesn't fight like that - languishing on the ropes would allow Manny to look like he's in the fight: he'd be missing a lot of punches, but it would look like he was in it, and sometimes that steels rounds.

    Personally, I'd love to see a Floyd masterclass - but Manny is a class act too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    You can say Pac took care of Hatton sooner
    When i was preparing for the fight ...ie drinking and watching internet porn lol .... i watched the pac hatton fight ( porn interlude ) ... i had forgot how ferocious some of pac's punches to hatton were . at the time hatton didnt appear to be a fighter you could just destroy but man them two rounds .. brutal

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    I see the logic, but styles make fights.

    Yes, Floyd is a better counter puncher than JMM - but JMM is a come forward fighter prepared to trade with Manny and not let him have it all his own way. Floyd doesn't fight like that - languishing on the ropes would allow Manny to look like he's in the fight: he'd be missing a lot of punches, but it would look like he was in it, and sometimes that steels rounds.

    Personally, I'd love to see a Floyd masterclass - but Manny is a class act too.

    Agree styles make fights - but I think it's interesting that Floyd's been standing and hooking more with opponents lately (less so with Cotto, true), and not languishing on the ropes as much. I think if he decided to be the intelligent aggressor in the fight - making Manny miss in the center of the ring (which he's fully capable of doing) and nailing him with straight right hands at will, Manny's in trouble...OR look at how much success Bradley had coming forward...Manny can't fight so well backing up...if Floyd even adopted a tiny bit of Bradley's strategy in that respect, look out....

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    The guy we're forgetting about here is Amir Khan. I can see a scenario where he moves up to 147 to take on Bradley - that's a great fighter.

    Personally, I think a lot of guys at 147 - guys like Ortiz and Berto are too big and strong for Bradley, and that although he's a warrior Tim's time at the top will be shortlived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    The guy we're forgetting about here is Amir Khan. I can see a scenario where he moves up to 147 to take on Bradley - that's a great fighter.

    Personally, I think a lot of guys at 147 - guys like Ortiz and Berto are too big and strong for Bradley, and that although he's a warrior Tim's time at the top will be shortlived.
    Totally agree Khan would likely obliterate Bradley...Ortiz would probably knock him the F out, too...(possibly NOT via a headbutt, too ). Yeah, I don't see his championship lasting long either.

    Gotta give Bradley points for heart AND/OR stupidity for continuing on with a fractured foot AND a twisted ankle...he definitely wanted it more than Pacman, he just didn't have what it took to decisively beat him (much like Pac that night).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Agree styles make fights - but I think it's interesting that Floyd's been standing and hooking more with opponents lately (less so with Cotto, true), and not languishing on the ropes as much. I think if he decided to be the intelligent aggressor in the fight - making Manny miss in the center of the ring (which he's fully capable of doing) and nailing him with straight right hands at will, Manny's in trouble...OR look at how much success Bradley had coming forward...Manny can't fight so well backing up...if Floyd even adopted a tiny bit of Bradley's strategy in that respect, look out....
    I have said before and will say again I think Floyd out boxes Manny every time.But i agree with Binnie in that to say he would destroy him is not giving Pacquiao enough credit.There would be points throughout the fight where Manny's whirlwind style and unorthodox angles would catch Floyd and steal rounds.The problem is Manny has become complacent.I have read so many time's Pacquiao could have knocked Bradley out,If he could have knocked him out he should have.The problem is Manny has become complacent.If Manny were to focus again i am sure he could atleast be a tough night's work for Floyd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I have said before and will say again I think Floyd out boxes Manny every time.But i agree with Binnie in that to say he would destroy him is not giving Pacquiao enough credit.There would be points throughout the fight where Manny's whirlwind style and unorthodox angles would catch Floyd and steal rounds.The problem is Manny has become complacent.I have read so many time's Pacquiao could have knocked Bradley out,If he could have knocked him out he should have.The problem is Manny has become complacent.If Manny were to focus again i am sure he could atleast be a tough night's work for Floyd
    Perhaps if Manny wasn't so busy trying to be a congressman, movie star, a singer and sucking at guitar all at the same time he could focus....


    I DO think it'll be an interesting fight, but unless he catches Floyd with a lucky left hook (doubtful) I think Floyd will school him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I did not know many has tried playing guitar.I must find it
    OH DUDE - he's pretty bad! I WILL say at least in this last 24/7 series someone had the decency to TUNE the thing for him...last time it was horribly out, and he's sitting there playing with his eyes closed all into it, like "I'm so awesome"...sounded like cats fighting even strumming chords!


    I think THAT's probably the main reason why I want to see someone knock him out...



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    So what is next for Bradley then.I am not sure a rematch is on the cards,I have heard so many boycott the rematch shouts it seem's nobody would buy it.I can see Mayweather Bradley.The world would love seeing Floyd beat Bradley's ass as everyone seem's to despise him.Undefeated Vs Undefeated,This thing practically sell's itself

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    Bradley- Mayweather? Holy crap, talk about getting DESTROYED... dude can't box nearly as well as Floyd. Floyd would probably punish him just to SPITE Manny...

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    Undefeated vs quasifeeted It sounds like

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Bradley- Mayweather? Holy crap, talk about getting DESTROYED... dude can't box nearly as well as Floyd. Floyd would probably punish him just to SPITE Manny...
    Stick with me on this.Bradley need's a top opponent to (try to) prove he is a genuine champion and deserves his belt.Who can he face now who is in the same league as Pacquiao?.Floyd has beaten everyone but Manny.Who is there left for him to beat (let's go on the assumption the "super fight" will not happen).Mosley has retired,Canelo is too green,Both guys have beat Cotto.The fight would sell itself,Floyd's 0 would be safe and Bradley would have a chance to convince the world.Floyd could afford to mix it up more and shut the mouth's of those who say he fight's scared and cement his position of never having to fight Pacman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    Stick with me on this.Bradley need's a top opponent to (try to) prove he is a genuine champion and deserves his belt.Who can he face now who is in the same league as Pacquiao?.Floyd has beaten everyone but Manny.Who is there left for him to beat (let's go on the assumption the "super fight" will not happen).Mosley has retired,Canelo is too green,Both guys have beat Cotto.The fight would sell itself,Floyd's 0 would be safe and Bradley would have a chance to convince the world.Floyd could afford to mix it up more and shut the mouth's of those who say he fight's scared and cement his position of never having to fight Pacman

    Sounds like a plan to me...

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    Isn't Bradley promoted by Arum? If so, there's a big sticking point re: Mayweather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Isn't Bradley promoted by Arum? If so, there's a big sticking point re: Mayweather.
    Notice Arum's name is mentioned as more of a hinderance to great matches than anything else these days?

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    ive never heard anyone say a good word about him

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    It is unbelievable someone has not beat this guy's clueless,ignorant,racist ass.

    Anyone remember this gem



    It get's real good about 4:40

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    Db ..Never seen that clip before , He is such a tosser.

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    I've never seen that before, either... he's an idiot, racist douche; but I do sort of agree a lot MMA bouts (at least ones I've watched) end up looking like dudes rolling around dry-humping...I end up yelling at my TV "FUCKING GET UP AND HIT EACH OTHER!!!!"

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    The thing that amazes me is this guy is a promoter,He should know how to deal with the media.Yet every time i hear an interview or read anything he has said there will be at least one ignorant or racist remark.He say's because MMA fans have tattoo's they at no point would be interested in boxing.I have a tattoo,I like boxing.The the cherry on the cake "neither are the blacks",Just wow.He is not even that good at his job.You would think given the current public opinion of boxing that he would stack card's with as many big fights as possible to showcase all the talent out there and let people know boxing is back.Ugh

    Bob Arum is sucking the life out of boxing.He is a cancer on the sport who takes and takes and put's nothing back.While this tool is around i very much doubt boxing will emerge from the current dark times

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