Anyone see Golvolin-Macklin?
Golvolkin is a joy to watch.
Anyone see Golvolin-Macklin?
Golvolkin is a joy to watch.
The Power Of The Riff Compels Me
Emilie Griffin passed away yesterday.
R.I.P to one of the very best to ever lace 'em up.
Any takers on the David Haye - Tyson Fury showdown schelduled for September?
'Battle of the Big Gobs' (as it should be billed).....
Give me Haye, I think he knocks Fury's ass out. I have only seen one Fury fight and some clips but he doesn't impress me at all, not that I think Haye is Ali or anything, he is far better then Fury in my opinion.Originally Posted by binnie
Are they going toe to toe...?
Haye all day.Tyson Fury is all hype
I really love you baby, I love what you've got
Let's get together we can, Get hot
Haye is ok ... Looked decent against chisora.
Fury is shit , I'd back binnie to do him any day
fuck your fucking framing
The boxing thread has been slow for a while we used to have bets and odds and all sorts
Haye will kick Fury's ass.
Am out and about and can't really post stuff but the clip of fury chinning himself is priceless
Other then whose next on Floyd's list boxing has been kind of dull for awhile.
As for Floyd... Canelo's getting his ass kicked, too...
just noticed , didnt we whinge our tits off to get the boxing thread stickied . And its not now
Last edited by vandeleur; 07-28-2013 at 04:30 PM.
tho on reflection its probably a indication of the shite state of boxing rather than a stickie issue lol
I had stickied it when I was a mod, maybe when I was removed from mod it unstickied? I honestly do not know.
so its your fault
I blame lounge lolso its your fault
Berto-Soto was a good scrap - I recommend watching it.
Berto fucked his shoulder in round 4, fought gamely on and was stopped in the 12th.
My gut feeling is to agree.
But there's something about Fury: he does so many things wrong, but he keeps winning. His capacity to adjust in fights is impressive, and he also improves with every performance.
I sense that his inability to use his significant height advantages (how does a guy 6" taller than his opponents get his so much?) will be his undoing. Haye has proven he can beat taller men (Valuev) and although Fury is quicker than most big men, I sense he may have bitten off more than he can chew.
But, like I said, he keeps winning........
There are always great fights - boxing's representation (or lack of) in the media is the problem
Fuck it, I'm bored.
Let's talk about how the following fantasy heavyweight match-ups would have played out. Let's assume all guys in question are at their peaks:
Lennox Lewis - Muhammed Ali
Rocky Marciano - Joe Frazier
George Foreman - Vitali Klitschko
Mike Tyson - Sonny Liston
binnie - Audley Harrison
Lennox Lewis - Muhammed Ali - Ali FTW
Rocky Marciano - Joe Frazier - Hmm... I'd say Frazier, but Marciano was too dumb to quit..
George Foreman - Vitali Klitschko - Foreman in his prime? Beats Vitali all day long.
Mike Tyson - Sonny Liston - Liston's one of the greats, but Tyson in his prime might take it...
binnie - Audley Harrison
Marciano - Frazier is the one I'm still wrestling with......
Ali in his prime would mop the ring with Lewis.Fuck it, I'm bored.
Let's talk about how the following fantasy heavyweight match-ups would have played out. Let's assume all guys in question are at their peaks:
Lennox Lewis - Muhammed Ali
Rocky Marciano - Joe Frazier
George Foreman - Vitali Klitschko
Mike Tyson - Sonny Liston
binnie - Audley Harrison
Would have to go Marciano, undefeated record gives him the edge but damn hard to pick either, can we computer simulate this one? lol
Foreman by round 5. Bitchko would be singing born in the USA by the time he picked himself up off the canvas.
Tyson in his young, hungry, angry days would take Liston, after Tyson loses his edge Liston would destroy him.
Binnie would be whooping some ass!
Well, here goes:
Lewis - Ali
Lewis, UD 12. Yeah, I know Ali is 'the greatest'. But I always ask myself - 'who did he fight that could box?' Put a slugger in front of him, and Ali wins all day. But what about a guy who can move, and box? Norton gave Ali fits for those reasons and Lewis is a whole different ball-game to Norton. With big power, a jab far superior to anyone Ali had ever faced (and second only to Larry Holmes) and having a significant advantage in size, a prime Lennox Lewis would have out-boxed Ali. There, I said it. (I also think that a prime Larry Holmes would have been all wrong for Ali, too).
Tyson - Liston
Waaaaar! Liston's jab undoubtedly causes Tyson problems, but has Liston ever been hit so hard and so fast? I think not - Tyson by TKO in the middle rounds.
Vitali - Foreman
Vitali UD 12. Another one that will surprise people. Foreman was a KO merchant. Problem this time round is that no-one has ever put Vitali down or, if we're honest, hurt him. He took everything Lewis had to throw and kept coming, for instance. In fact, the only time Vitali has lost is due to injury - a shoulder to Chris Byrd, and the need for dozens of stiches in his face against Lewis. Foreman was also used to being the bigger guy - but 6'3'' and 220lbs would feel mighty small against 6'7'' and 250lbs - he might have struggled to land regularly. I give Foreman enough respect to survive the barrage of punishment he takes here - Vitali has one of the highest KO percentages of all time - but I just don't see him being able to outwork Vitali over twelve.
Frazier - Marciano
This would be an all time classic. Both guys fight in phone-booths; both are about the same size. I just sense that Marciano is tougher, but not by much. And his right hand is everyone's nightmare. So I say Marciano by stoppage after an all time classic bout.
binnie - Harrison.
Harrison doesn't even show up because he's terrified.
I know you love Bitchko and Lewis, just wondering what you think would have happened in a rematch?Well, here goes:
Lewis - Ali
Lewis, UD 12. Yeah, I know Ali is 'the greatest'. But I always ask myself - 'who did he fight that could box?' Put a slugger in front of him, and Ali wins all day. But what about a guy who can move, and box? Norton gave Ali fits for those reasons and Lewis is a whole different ball-game to Norton. With big power, a jab far superior to anyone Ali had ever faced (and second only to Larry Holmes) and having a significant advantage in size, a prime Lennox Lewis would have out-boxed Ali. There, I said it. (I also think that a prime Larry Holmes would have been all wrong for Ali, too).
Tyson - Liston
Waaaaar! Liston's jab undoubtedly causes Tyson problems, but has Liston ever been hit so hard and so fast? I think not - Tyson by TKO in the middle rounds.
Vitali - Foreman
Vitali UD 12. Another one that will surprise people. Foreman was a KO merchant. Problem this time round is that no-one has ever put Vitali down or, if we're honest, hurt him. He took everything Lewis had to throw and kept coming, for instance. In fact, the only time Vitali has lost is due to injury - a shoulder to Chris Byrd, and the need for dozens of stiches in his face against Lewis. Foreman was also used to being the bigger guy - but 6'3'' and 220lbs would feel mighty small against 6'7'' and 250lbs - he might have struggled to land regularly. I give Foreman enough respect to survive the barrage of punishment he takes here - Vitali has one of the highest KO percentages of all time - but I just don't see him being able to outwork Vitali over twelve.
Frazier - Marciano
This would be an all time classic. Both guys fight in phone-booths; both are about the same size. I just sense that Marciano is tougher, but not by much. And his right hand is everyone's nightmare. So I say Marciano by stoppage after an all time classic bout.
binnie - Harrison.
Harrison doesn't even show up because he's terrified.
Ali ... I don't like Lewis
Frazier
Foreman , the foreman who destroyed Frazier would have defeated any heavyweight ever !!! The fact that Ali broke him . A fact documented and confirmed by foreman himself . If Foreman had of beaten Ali or ducked him foreman would have bashed the division for years .
Young Tyson
Binnie vs Audrey Hepburn . Draw ;-)
And larry Holmes is / was very under rated amongst the greats .
Lewis would have won the rematch. If you go through his career, he always performed better in rematches. Plus, Vitali was a very late stand in for the first fight, so second time round Lewis would have trained with him in mind.
Don't really 'love' either fighter - I respect Lewis immensely: he wasn't always exciting, but he was incredibly talented and his ability to move so well for a big man means that he would be a nightmare for any of the greats in history. Vitali is as tough as they come - it's not the Klits fault that there's not really been any quality opposition to challenge them but, once again, their sheer size means that the great fighters of the '60s and '70s would have had serious problems with them - giving a way 5'' in height and 30lbs is a lot to ask of anyone. We all gravitate to the Alis and and Foreman's of the world, but when you take out emotion and think about the logistics of fighting, you'd have to admit that they'd be a hard night's work for anyone. With Wlad's chin, there's always a chance that someone lands a 'lucky shot' and KOs him. Vitali, however, has a granite jaw - I just don't see how people from the eras where heavyweights were smaller could beat him.
I think that if there was a tournament between the 15 best heavyweights of all time, Larry Holmes would have come out on top. He was just too good a boxer - I figure he's have boxed Ali's head off (again, Ali didn't ever fight anyone who could really box). The two fights I have any doubts about Holmes winning would be Vitali, and Tyson (I think Mike's speed gives Holmes problems).
I was just interested in how you thought it would have played out
Good fights last night. Nathan Cleverly lost his WBO light-heavyweight title to Sergey Kovalev (who may be the new force in the division):
http://youtu.be/_H-vHvwYAbA
Daniel Geale also lost his IBF Middleweight title to Darren Barker. Really cracking fight if you get chance to see it.
Yeah I just read about the cleverly fight ... Seems he was blown away . Bit of a surprise I thought he was on course to join up the titles
He was completely blown away - a bit of surprise since I don't think he's ever been down (or even hurt) before. Kovalev is big dude for 175 though, Cleverely looked small by comparison.
I don't think it's the end for Cleverely. It is probably the first time he's met a genuinely world class fighter, however, and he came up very short.
Kovalev-Tarvoris Cloud would be a great fight in the future.
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Saw that happen at another fight and the dude that got kissed immediately took a step back and knocked the other dude the F out.
J I saw that clip on YouTube ... That's what I thought the Sesh clip was at first .
Dodgy trick in boxing to out your face that close .
Wish I could find it, it's funny as hell... especially when the dude starts apologizing for knocking the dude out when he gets DQ'd for hitting before the bell... something to the effect of:
"What?!? I'm sorry, I thought he was coming on to me, and I'm not a homosexual! I mean, he kissed me!?!"
And when they show the dude on the canvas coming to, he's looking up like "I can't believe he just HIT me!" Like WTF was he expecting him to do?
Handbags!
Was at the Ricky Burns V Raymundo Beltran fight last night in Glasgow. I like Ricky, limited ability, heart of a lion and a very very nice guy. Last nights result was a fuckin disgrace. Beltran bossed this fight from start to the 10th round even scoring a knockdown in the 8th. Ricky shaded that last 2 rounds.....just. Result....a draw, a fuckin draw. Beltran must be absolutely gutted, he couldn't do any more and was robbed of the title. Ricky fought from the 2nd with a dislocated jaw and fair play to him for carrying on until the end, but even he must be waking up in his hospital bed this morning thinking that he lost that fight. Results like this are what give boxing the terrible reputation it has for looking after it's box office draws. Ricky's fights in Scotland are huge events attended by 1000's of punters. Eddie Hearn had obviously being showing the judges some great hospitality and they helped out his fighter, one judge had Ricky 3 rounds ahead???? I am fuckin embarrassed by this result. Disgrace. Rant over.
And the silence from the home crowd when their boy kept his belt said it all.
Last edited by ToraToraTora; 09-08-2013 at 05:55 AM.
Yeah I thought the crowds reaction was the true story , fair play to Ricky for carrying on but he lost the fight .
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