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    Agree it was boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    The Pacquiao camp is now claiming that he had a shoulder injury. What a joke...........
    Right shoulder, specifically...

    Doesn't that correlate though with his lack of throwing rights?

    I didn't have the greatest feed in the world, but it seemed to me that all he was throwing were those left hooks, hardly any rights....
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    When ever you see a couple holding hands while walking to the cash point... from now on.... It will be known as the Mayweather Pacquiao
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    The only thing injured on Paqfraud is his pride. I know you buy all of Crosby's whining, don't fall for this crap coming from Manny's camp. He got took to school by a boxer far more talented than himself, end of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    When ever you see a couple holding hands while walking to the cash point... from now on.... It will be known as the Mayweather Pacquiao
    It is already the Simmons Stanley, pretty sure they would sue.

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    Am liking some of the mayweather hug your woman punch your opponent memes.
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    Mayweather-Pacquiao, more than a box match, it looked like a tango contest.
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    bit of a reminder of that punching thing we heard so much about


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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    The only thing injured on Paqfraud is his pride. I know you buy all of Crosby's whining, don't fall for this crap coming from Manny's camp. He got took to school by a boxer far more talented than himself, end of story.

    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...right-shoulder

    Still think it's fraud?

    Although the 4 million people that bought the pay-per-view might be claiming fraud now....

    And for the record, I had no rooting interest, although I wanted to see the woman beater lose....

    I haven't watched boxing regularly since Leonard retired....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...right-shoulder

    Still think it's fraud?

    Although the 4 million people that bought the pay-per-view might be claiming fraud now....

    And for the record, I had no rooting interest, although I wanted to see the woman beater lose....

    I haven't watched boxing regularly since Leonard retired....
    I still do, Roach would pull any stunt to save face. Are you still a Steelers' fan? That QB of theirs is hardly a ladies man. Floyd as a person is a self entitled asshole, as a boxer he is the best in the world.

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    Mayweather toyed with Pac...he took his best punches in rd 2 and realized Manny couldnt hurt him..his defense was incredible..Manny couldnt touch him..I thought it was a decent fight and 116-113 was about right..not sure what the third judge was watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Right shoulder, specifically...

    Doesn't that correlate though with his lack of throwing rights?

    I didn't have the greatest feed in the world, but it seemed to me that all he was throwing were those left hooks, hardly any rights....
    True, but Manny has always been thought of as a 'left only' fighter. Roach spent years trying to develop a right hand from him.

    I also don't buy the 'running' comments. I saw Mayweather stand right in front of him most of the time. The problem most oppoents face against Floyd is that he makes them think, and the more they think the more they become gun-shy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    I still do, Roach would pull any stunt to save face. Are you still a Steelers' fan? That QB of theirs is hardly a ladies man. Floyd as a person is a self entitled asshole, as a boxer he is the best in the world.
    I believe he has a shoulder problem. The point is that most fighters go into the ring nursing injuries: Floyd has brittle hands and ribs, for instance. He fought practically one-handed against Guerrero.

    The issue here is like David Haye's toe against Klitchsko - it was broken, but it only started really hurting right around the time he realised he couldn't win.

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    Ok, so Floyd's final fight is in September. Who should it be?

    Pacman is out for surgery (mmmm) so it's not him.

    Amir Khan claims to want the fight but says he won't fight in September because of Ramadan?

    Tim Bradley is a good fight - credible (he beat Pac) and one of the best at 147 (but there is the Bob Arum factor)

    Cotto at 160 is good - but I doubt he can turn around the fight in such a short space after Geale.

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    No his last fight for show time , come October get ready for mayweather TV presents mayweather pac 2.
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    You may be right. That would put him at 50-0 (i.e. beating Marciano's record).

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    The thing that sets him apart is his dedication.

    Most other champion boxers get up early and train hard all day but when they get home they just relax. Mayweather then does a second shift beating the shit out of his family and that extra practice gives him an edge...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The thing that sets him apart is his dedication.

    Most other champion boxers get up early and train hard all day but when they get home they just relax. Mayweather then does a second shift beating the shit out of his family and that extra practice gives him an edge...


    I think if you look into the history of boxing you will find an awful lot of wife-beaters.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    I still do, Roach would pull any stunt to save face. Are you still a Steelers' fan? That QB of theirs is hardly a ladies man. Floyd as a person is a self entitled asshole, as a boxer he is the best in the world.
    Totally not down with the girl-punching, but agree, he is currently the best boxer in the world. And as expected, he made Manny look stupid. Not saying he wasn't injured, but realistically with his shoulder being 100% wouldn't have helped. My stream wasn't great either, but Manny looked befuddled. Same thing will happen in a rematch - or Floyd will take Sr's advice and end it earlier.

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    I'm not a fan of Mayweather at all, but I knew he'd whip Pac's ass. He is simply a better boxer. I don't enjoy his style in the least, but it works. I never like Leonard, because he ran so much too. I'd prefer a much smaller ring, and then let them pummel the fuck out of each other. In my mind, the greatest fights in history, have been wars. Wars where the two opponents beat the fuck out of each other. When both fighters get done with a 12 round "fight", and both look like they just got done with a dancing with the stars episode, it wasn't much of a "fight".

    I didn't pay to watch this one, nor did I bother to go anywhere that was showing it. I knew what the outcome would be. I know what the outcome would be in a rematch. I hope Floyd sticks to his most recent comments, and doesn't give Pac a rematch.
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    Von you know fuck all about boxing ,you probably couldn't even chin mayweathers missus

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    The more I read about this am sure mayweather will/might be tempted to bash a chump in September , hopefully amire can't then open it up for TV bidders on who wants the big final fight.

    Hey what do I know I don't even like the tosser I would rather watch golovkin or wilder any day


    Interesting boxing 24 article saying mayweather should fight golovkin. Pretty sure may wouldn't want that as a last fight.

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    If Mayweather does decide to try and break the record, I think he should fight someone beatable for victory 49, and then fight the baddest motherfucker left, to end it either 50-0, or 49-1. Win or lose, it would be a win/win for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    The more I read about this am sure mayweather will/might be tempted to bash a chump in September , hopefully amire can't then open it up for TV bidders on who wants the big final fight.

    Hey what do I know I don't even like the tosser I would rather watch golovkin or wilder any day


    Interesting boxing 24 article saying mayweather should fight golovkin. Pretty sure may wouldn't want that as a last fight.
    If he goes to 160 it will be for Cotto. GGG is a genuine middleweight and Floyd isn't even a genuine welterweight, so it would be a stoopid fight.

    Danny Garcia is most likely for September.

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    Did anybody watch the Alvarez vs. Kirkland fight? What a fucking brawl! Now that was a fight!

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    That it was! The super slo-mo of the shots landed on Kirkland were magnificent! His face slid all over his skull. That's the kind of fight ending I like to see. And Kudos to Alvarez for checking on the poor guy he just clobbered.
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    They were some killer punches.

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    Yeah, but was it really a 'fight'. I like Alvarez, and I think he is one of the most talented young guns in boxing. But fighting a guy who is that ring-rusty (following several years in prison) is not all the impressive. 'Lamb to the slaughter' springs to mind........

    Alvarez-Cotto is a fight.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Yeah, but was it really a 'fight'.
    Yes, it was a fight.

    I think you must like watching dancing, more than fighting. Go watch Floyd avoid fighting. Or that faggit Ray Leonard.

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    I was watching some Tyson fights from early in the day...some of those guys were also-rans but not all.

    Dude had like 10 fights a year or more...it was a crazy schedule. Still cant believe his early hand speed. Fast for any weight class...absolutely all universe for a heavyweight
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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Yeah, but was it really a 'fight'. I like Alvarez, and I think he is one of the most talented young guns in boxing. But fighting a guy who is that ring-rusty (following several years in prison) is not all the impressive. 'Lamb to the slaughter' springs to mind........

    Alvarez-Cotto is a fight.......

    That and the only other times Kirkland has lost before was also when he was without his usual trainer, Anne Wolfe. He's gotten off the canvas and beat the shit out of dudes with her in his corner. Alfredo Angulo anyone? To go immediately step back in the ring with someone in Canelo's league after a long layoff with a new trainer would have been amazing if it had worked, but looks like a poor decision based on how badly he ate shit... that knockout shot spun his ass around (partially due to the fact Kirkland had already committed to throwing a left hook, but the Alvarez right cross got there first) ... brutal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    That and the only other times Kirkland has lost before was also when he was without his usual trainer, Anne Wolfe. He's gotten off the canvas and beat the shit out of dudes with her in his corner. Alfredo Angulo anyone? To go immediately step back in the ring with someone in Canelo's league after a long layoff with a new trainer would have been amazing if it had worked, but looks like a poor decision based on how badly he ate shit... that knockout shot spun his ass around (partially due to the fact Kirkland had already committed to throwing a left hook, but the Alvarez right cross got there first) ... brutal.
    He did for the payday. Win-win for Kirkland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Yes, it was a fight.

    I think you must like watching dancing, more than fighting. Go watch Floyd avoid fighting. Or that faggit Ray Leonard.
    What I meant was that Kirkland was an opponent selected to make Alvarez look good. It was a spectacle, not a fight.

    When you put someone who stands square on and has a tendency of lowering his guard and not moving his head in the ring with a guy as talented as Alvarez, it's highly likely to end in a KO. So people will say 'wow, there was more action than Mayweather-Pacquiao' and I say 'yeah, but it wasn't really a competition of equals'.

    Alvarez has fought against way better guys.

    And calling Ray Leonard - one of the ATGs - a 'faggot' is strange. He was in some wars! I'm not sure that Floyd avoids fighting: he avoids getting hit, which is what boxing is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    I was watching some Tyson fights from early in the day...some of those guys were also-rans but not all.

    Dude had like 10 fights a year or more...it was a crazy schedule. Still cant believe his early hand speed. Fast for any weight class...absolutely all universe for a heavyweight
    There's a revisionist history around Tyson which says 'he looked better than he was because he faught bums'. I think it's largely horeshit. Michael Spinks was a very, very good fighter, for instance. And Larry Holmes wasn't that far past his peak when they met (he'd been champ 3 years earlier). I would also say that right now America would give it's right nut for a heavyweight of the calibre of the following: Tony Tucker, James 'Bonecrusher' Smith, Pinklan Thomas, Tony Tubbs or Razor Ruddock (I know he was Canadian). Would any of those guys beat the Klits? No, but they'd do a damn sight better than the shower of shit that's gone over the pond for an ass-whopping for the past 10 years.

    Tyson is a tale of 'what could have been', but in his 3 or so years of prime he was an astonishinlgly gifted fighter. For my money he's have beaten Holyfield in his prime, but probably not Lewis (too much of a height disadvantage and Lewis had a great jab).

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    3/4 of a thank . Lennox Lewis couldnt beat ... Blah blah blah.

    Before they created a convicted rapist/psychopath there was a man who beat an all time great in Holmes and in the glory of victory admitted that in his prime the loser would beat him.
    Mike Tyson for a short period was a perfect heavy weight.
    Mike Tyson for a lot longer period was a cautionary tale of greed and manipulation .
    If any one disagrees with that ...... Cool

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    Interesting take on the May/Pac fight.


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    Golovkin keeps doing the business , he is by far my fav fighter at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Golovkin keeps doing the business , he is by far my fav fighter at the moment.
    The fight with Alvarez seems destined to happen in the future. They'll hype it for years first.

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    Good fights this weekend both Joshua and kel Brooke looking good.

    Lot of people talking GGG froch at Wembley , think it's one war to far for froch

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