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    If my family had to rely on me only to get the food for our table
    we would eat a lot of fish and veggies .
    I would have to steal the veggies because the only thing I ever grew that the bugs didn't eat before me was weed, and tomato worms almost got the weed before iI did.
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    Originally posted by Seshmeister




    THESE are the terrible injuries suffered by a man savagely mauled by a vicious Pit Bull terrier-type dog while walking through a Birmingham park


    Post dogfight






    Sharon Reynolds, killed in 1997 by a pit bull terrier


    In the US 25 people are killed by dogs each year most are kids and most by pit bulls.

    And the other side the story.

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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    This is one of the silliest arguments I've ever heard.

    Really? Have you forgotten all my silly statements in the past threads? Or are you cutting me some slack now?

    It puts me on a worse moral footing than Stalin because I regularly use anti-bacterial wipes to clean my kids and bacteria have even more rights than jellyfish since they have been around longer.

    Yeah, and just think how much bacteria we are killing when we brush our teeth.It’s about time. Sesh, we can finally agree on something.A staunch Atheist and a staunch Christian, coming to an agreement for the first time ever.:eek: Another sign of the Apocalypse.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    You and BOF put out a lie and if I didn’t shoot down that lie, then that lie would have been left unchallenged.
    Dude, no one is flipping you shit for having faith. But you can't say I "put out a lie" because you disagree. Get real.
    YOU believe in god (and for the record, I haven't said I don't). Whether others do or not is up to them, you can't call them "liars", that's just stupid. Go look up the definition of faith again. YOU CAN'T PROVE IT, by definition. Doesn't mean YOU can't believe if you want to, but trying to debate otherwise just makes you look silly.

    And BOF, enough with the racist shit, or you too will have earned the 'Thin the Herd' Award.
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    Originally posted by jhale667
    [B] But you can't say I "put out a lie"

    “Why would you NEED to disprove it, when it can't even be proven in the first place.”
    That was your quote. I’m sorry, but That quote is a lie. I’m not calling you a liar, but I’m calling that quote a lie. Big difference. That argument is not new, so I know you didn’t come up with it. I’m sorry if you thought I was calling YOU a liar. Okay?


    you can't call them "liars", that's just stupid.

    For the most part Dan Brown is a liar! Dan Brown had an axe to grind with the Catholic church. I’m not here to defend the Catholic church because I have tons of issues with them myself. The Catholic church goes against Christ’s teachings more than any Christian denomination. But that’s a different argument. Back to the book. When you go to the book store to buy “The Da Vinci Code” where would you find that book? Is it in the fiction section or the non-fiction section? End of story!

    trying to debate otherwise just makes you look silly.

    Your Homer response was pretty silly too. You can reply to this if you want to. But I won’t argue with you anymore.
    Sorry if I offended you J. :bottle:

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    Did you just accept evolution?

    Cool!
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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    For the most part Dan Brown is a liar! Dan Brown had an axe to grind with the Catholic church. I’m not here to defend the Catholic church because I have tons of issues with them myself. The Catholic church goes against Christ’s teachings more than any Christian denomination. But that’s a different argument. Back to the book. When you go to the book store to buy “The Da Vinci Code” where would you find that book? Is it in the fiction section or the non-fiction section? End of story!

    He's not a liar he's a fictional writer. He's not the one claiming this silliness is the truth or the word of god.

    I was laughing at the craziness of cardinals in the church coming out with statements that 'this book is a work of fiction which cannot be proved and is based on myths and half truths".

    Funny shit.

    Lets get the bible into the fiction section and then we can all be happy.

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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    He's not a liar he's a fictional writer. He's not the one claiming this silliness is the truth or the word of god.

    I was laughing at the craziness of cardinals in the church coming out with statements that 'this book is a work of fiction which cannot be proved and is based on myths and half truths".

    Funny shit.

    Lets get the bible into the fiction section and then we can all be happy.
    Now that's the Sesh that I Know and love.

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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Did you just accept evolution?

    Cool!
    You are about the only one around here that I would really love to sit down, have a beer and talk about life. I bet we can debate until our faces turn blue without calling each other names. And to answer your question, NO. Until you guys can prove to me where time and matter came from your theory sounds just as silly as mine.

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    The Lone Ranger and Tonto went camping in the desert.
    After they got their tent all set up, both men fell sound
    Asleep.
    Some hours later, Tonto wakes the Lone Ranger and
    Says, 'Kemo Sabe, look towards sky; what you see?'
    The Lone Ranger replies, 'I see millions of stars.'
    'What that tell you?' asked Tonto.
    The Lone Ranger ponders for a minute then says,
    'Astronomically speaking, it tells me there are
    Millions of galaxies. Time wise, it appears to be
    Approximately a quarter past three in the morning.
    Theologically, the Lord is all powerful and we are
    Small and insignificant. Meteorologically, it seems we
    Will have a beautiful day tomorrow. What's it tell you,
    Tonto?'
    'You dumber than buffalo ----. Someone stole tent.

    I posted this so we all can laugh together.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    You are about the only one around here that I would really love to sit down, have a beer and talk about life. I bet we can debate until our faces turn blue without calling each other names. And to answer your question, NO. Until you guys can prove to me where time and matter came from your theory sounds just as silly as mine.
    To quote one of the funniest lines I've read on this website that I'm pissed off I didn't come up with

    "I'll show you a 'primordial atom' when you show me a talking snake." - DEMON CUNT

    Actually I'm much less argumentative in real life and a good friend of mine is a 75 year old preacher.

    I'm right and he's wrong but he's still a nice guy.

    Cheers!


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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    To quote one of the funniest lines I've read on this website that I'm pissed off I didn't come up with

    "I'll show you a 'primordial atom' when you show me a talking snake." - DEMON CUNT

    That was funny I will say. But at least I showed him a talking snake.
    http://www.amazon.com/Your-Special-V.../dp/B000MO9OQ0
    DC got angry with me with that response. I’m still waiting for my answer to the “primordial atom” question to DC though.


    Actually I'm much less argumentative in real life.

    remember you said that in your e-mail. To me, when we argue with someone that just shows that we’re frustrated that we can’t prove our point.

    and a good friend of mine is a 75 year old preacher.

    I'm right and he's wrong but he's still a nice guy.

    Cheers!



    COLOR=blue] Sesh, why in the world would you want to argue with a 75-year-old man. [/COLOR]

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    Originally posted by Seshmeister




    THESE are the terrible injuries suffered by a man savagely mauled by a vicious Pit Bull terrier-type dog while walking through a Birmingham park


    Post dogfight






    Sharon Reynolds, killed in 1997 by a pit bull terrier


    In the US 25 people are killed by dogs each year most are kids and most by pit bulls.
    These pics. are so disturbing!
    I (yes, me) I am speachless...


    Declawed cats are the way to go!
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    Originally posted by blonddgirl777
    These pics. are so disturbing!
    I (yes, me) I am speachless...


    Declawed cats are the way to go!
    the pics obviously get the "point across"

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    Right now I can think of only one animal I have no problem with anyone getting vicious with..
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    There has been some extreme shit posted on both sides in this thread.

    To me it's all theoretical BS.

    Here's an example. There is obviously a big population problem in India. There are approaching a billion of them.

    You are standing there with a rifle. An Indian kid is about to be eaten by an increasingly rare wild tiger. Do you shoot it?

    Dog fighting was banned in the UK in the early 1800s when they were still happy to send kids up chimneys or down coal mines. Crazy but it shows how fucking unpleasant dog fighting is. Firstly to the dogs which might fight for up to an hour eating each other but worse to me is that you can be walking through your local park and they try and eat your kid.

    Yeah yeah there are responsible owners why should they be punished? Well because most people that want a dog like that are assholes. The minority suffer but sorry. There are dozens of cool dog breeds to choose from I think not having the ones that kill children isn't an unreasonable sacrifice to our rights and that's coming from a libertarian type person.

    The only reason I even got involved in this thread was that last night I watched a TV documentary on dog fighting and watched 5 minutes or so of dogs eating each other watched by scum.

    As far as the race thing it's totally irrelavant. In Europe the main fighting dog breeders are Irish and Finnish who are as white as it gets.

    Cheers!

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    Originally posted by jharp84
    It's Friday! I got the 1984 cd soundboard boot of little guitars JAMMIN! Everyone have a great weekend!
    You Too John. :bottle:

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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Well because most people that want a dog like that are assholes. The minority suffer but sorry. There are dozens of cool dog breeds to choose
    Sesh, even a Pit Bull has to be made to be vicious. They just happen to have the nastiest bite ratio in the dog world - something like 1200 lbs. per square inch....brutal.
    Just under a Hyena's bite as far as pressure goes, I read somewhere.
    Anyone who would train an animal to be a killer (or kill one that wouldn't respond to 'training') should get the afforementioned "Thin the Herd" award. No ifs, ands, or buts. Die.
    My ex works for an animal rescue station, and her Pit is THE biggest pussy you ever met in your life.
    Total sweetheart of a dog. She would tear your arm off if she thought you were hurting Mommy, though....

    As far as the race thing it's totally irrelavant.

    That was my original point. :p Vick is a piece of shit regardless of his color.
    To even bring race into the discussion is idiotic.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    You Too John. :bottle:
    Back atya my S.A BRO!!! If I get a boot of new tour! It's on me! And that goes for the whole Fuckin army(as long as I'm buzzed!!!) :confused:

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    Originally posted by jharp84
    Back atya my S.A BRO!!! If I get a boot of new tour! It's on me! And that goes for the whole Fuckin army(as long as I'm buzzed!!!) :confused:


    I would give you five stars for that funny post, but I already gave you my 5 stars for those DVD’s.
    Since they won’t be around here anytime soon and I don’t have the money to fly somewhere I’ll buy a boot from you. I don’t like free hand-outs. But that was cool of you though.

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    Originally posted by jhale667
    Sesh, even a Pit Bull has to be made to be vicious. They just happen to have the nastiest bite ratio in the dog world - something like 1200 lbs. per square inch....brutal.
    Just under a Hyena's bite as far as pressure goes, I read somewhere.
    Anyone who would train an animal to be a killer (or kill one that wouldn't respond to 'training') should get the afforementioned "Thin the Herd" award. No ifs, ands, or buts. Die.
    My ex works for an animal rescue station, and her Pit is THE biggest pussy you ever met in your life.
    Total sweetheart of a dog. She would tear your arm off if she thought you were hurting Mommy, though....



    That was my original point. :p Vick is a piece of shit regardless of his color.
    To even bring race into the discussion is idiotic.

    With all due respect I don't give a fuck how nice your sweetheart of a dog that could tear your arm off is.

    Lets put it this way.

    If you went to the local swimming pool and there were people exercising their pet sharks would you be happy to go swim there with your kids because some of them were well trained?

    There are 74 million dogs in the US.

    Go rescue a labrador or something.

    Cheers!

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO


    I would give you five stars for that funny post, but I already gave you my 5 stars for those DVD’s.
    Since they won’t be around here anytime soon and I don’t have the money to fly somewhere I’ll buy a boot from you. I don’t like free hand-outs. But that was cool of you though.
    Dude - (and no disrepect to the "shes" VALID fuckin points! However, If I get a fuckin boot of the show, I have a contact who usually gets a show or two(even though all ticks say-"no camera's/audio/video! Hey my outlook is "share the wealth" WE HAVE WAITED 22-23 Years for this shit!! SOme mutherfucker out there will show me how to "upload" the show, and I will fuckin do it!!! Juice

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    Originally posted by Seshmeister


    Go rescue a labrador or something.

    Exactly. There are tons of mutts who will be more loving and less violent.

    There's a guy two houses down and he's got a very angry pitbull. He walks the dog every morning and afternoon and he has to hold that metal chain tight. You should see the thickness of this chain. I don't go out of the house if I see him walking that dog down the block. The thing's already lunged at me once. Once is more than enough for me. I'm waiting for the day that angry beast escapes and kills one of the kids riding their bikes. It's very scary watching him sit and watching with that glare of his.

    PittBulls and Rottwilers. Hate them both.
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    Originally posted by Seshmeister

    Lets put it this way.

    If you went to the local swimming pool and there were people exercising their pet sharks would you be happy to go swim there with your kids because some of them were well trained?
    That would be a more interesting analogy if you could actually train a shark...

    I'm not just talking about putting frickin' laser beams on their heads, either...

    But I know what you mean.

    And Ally, some Rottwilers are cool too....

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Seshmeister
    [B] With all due respect I don't give a fuck how nice your sweetheart of a dog that could tear your arm off is.

    Lets put it this way.

    If you went to the local swimming pool and there were people exercising their pet sharks would you be happy to go swim there with your kids because some of them were well trained?

    There are 74 million dogs in the US.

    Go rescue a labrador or something.

    Cheers!

    And with that you get a 5 vote motherfucker.........
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    Pit Bulls are the new Dobermans. It's laughable.

    Lineage...history of the breed? The strain has been around for quite some time....bred the same way.

    That's right, the child-killing devils were the same way when the '96 Olympics got bombed. The paragons of paralysis were the same way when the '86 Hair Metal ruled. The harbingers of horror were the same way when the Bicentennial happened.

    Wanna skip more than a few decades?

    Go ahead. The strain was the same.

    Read up on carefully guarded bloodlines that had/have no regard for aesthetics. The historical information is exactly that.

    When rationalization has run it's course, find a new angle to sell.

    All the sudden?

    You're OPRAH.
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    We always had German Shepherds

    This is me and Smokey back in the day.

    A properly trained dog and a conscientious owner. That's what I'm talking about.


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    Originally posted by rustoffa
    Pit Bulls are the new Dobermans. It's laughable.

    Lineage...history of the breed? The strain has been around for quite some time....bred the same way.

    That's right, the child-killing devils were the same way when the '96 Olympics got bombed. The paragons of paralysis were the same way when the '86 Hair Metal ruled. The harbingers of horror were the same way when the Bicentennial happened.

    Wanna skip more than a few decades?

    Go ahead. The strain was the same.

    Read up on carefully guarded bloodlines that had/have no regard for aesthetics. The historical information is exactly that.

    When rationalization has run it's course, find a new angle to sell.

    All the sudden?

    You're OPRAH.
    I'm not really sure what you are saying here?

    Maybe its something about a media backlash about this particular case?

    Bottom line is though that human fatalities from dogs in the US were around 17 per year in the 80s and 90s and in the last few years it's risen to around 26 so statistically there is a real issue here.

    Especially if your kid was one of the 50% increase.

    Cheers


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    Originally posted by rustoffa
    Pit Bulls are the new Dobermans. It's laughable.

    Lineage...history of the breed? The strain has been around for quite some time....bred the same way.

    That's right, the child-killing devils were the same way when the '96 Olympics got bombed. The paragons of paralysis were the same way when the '86 Hair Metal ruled. The harbingers of horror were the same way when the Bicentennial happened.

    Wanna skip more than a few decades?

    Go ahead. The strain was the same.

    Read up on carefully guarded bloodlines that had/have no regard for aesthetics. The historical information is exactly that.

    When rationalization has run it's course, find a new angle to sell.

    All the sudden?

    You're OPRAH.
    I'm not really sure what you are saying here?

    Maybe its something about a media backlash about this particular case?

    Bottom line is though that human fatalities from dogs in the US were around 17 per year in the 80s and 90s and in the last few years it's risen to around 26 so statistically there is a real issue here.

    Especially if your kid was one of the 50% increase.

    Cheers


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    Originally posted by jharp84
    Dude - (and no disrepect to the "shes" VALID fuckin points! However, If I get a fuckin boot of the show, I have a contact who usually gets a show or two(even though all ticks say-"no camera's/audio/video! Hey my outlook is "share the wealth" WE HAVE WAITED 22-23 Years for this shit!! SOme mutherfucker out there will show me how to "upload" the show, and I will fuckin do it!!! Juice
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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Bottom line is though that human fatalities from dogs in the US were around 17 per year in the 80s and 90s and in the last few years it's risen to around 26 so statistically there is a real issue here.

    You hate Pitbulls and I hate bars where people go to get drunk and get behind the wheel of a car and kill 16,885 people a year. That’s one person every 31 minutes. Do we ban bars? 19,457 people die every year in their home from accidental poisoning. 17 people die every year from allergic reaction to the fluoride in their water. You are ten times as likely to hit the lotto than getting bit by a Pitbull. I got a lot more than that, but you get my point right?
    Let us get back to blaming Dr. Frankenstein and not Dr. Frankenstein’s monster. We always want the quick fix, which is banning the breed. But I will say this. If you have been arrested for any crime, you should NOT be able to own a Pitbull. It should be against the law PERIOD. And the bars can stay open. I’ll compromise with you Sesh, how about that?

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    You are ten times as likely to hit the lotto than getting bit by a Pitbull.
    Not in NYC

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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Bottom line is though that human fatalities from dogs in the US were around 17 per year in the 80s and 90s and in the last few years it's risen to around 26 so statistically there is a real issue here.
    Just wait...those hooligans 'ell get ahold of Fila Brasileiros!!! The number crunching will skyrocket!!!!

    That's right, it's still laughable.

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    Originally posted by diamondjimi
    Good post Spurs!

    The best dog I've ever owned was my pitbull. I had her from the moment she was born. She lived to the age of 16 . Not an enemy in the world. I was fully aware of the responsibilitys of Pitbull ownership.
    The first two years was solid disipline. And it paid off big time . She had an amazing disposition. She grew up with cats in the house. She never chased strange ones.

    I raised her as I would a Beagle. I never taught her to "sic 'em" or "get 'em". She loved playing with kids , but being a responsible master she was never left unattended with them.
    Amazing breed , it's sad that pathetic mentally and morally weak fuckwits end up with these dogs and ruin it for the rest of us.

    They've ruined it for people here in the promised land of Ontario.(sic..)
    They now must be registered and muzzled and breeding and sale of them is now illeagal...

    Fuckwits !
    This was a great post! Just thought that we all should read Dj's post again.

    BTW.. You have got the best avatar on this site.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    You hate Pitbulls and I hate bars where people go to get drunk and get behind the wheel of a car and kill 16,885 people a year. That’s one person every 31 minutes. Do we ban bars? 19,457 people die every year in their home from accidental poisoning. 17 people die every year from allergic reaction to the fluoride in their water. You are ten times as likely to hit the lotto than getting bit by a Pitbull. I got a lot more than that, but you get my point right?
    Let us get back to blaming Dr. Frankenstein and not Dr. Frankenstein’s monster. We always want the quick fix, which is banning the breed. But I will say this. If you have been arrested for any crime, you should NOT be able to own a Pitbull. It should be against the law PERIOD. And the bars can stay open. I’ll compromise with you Sesh, how about that?
    Sure but I never mentioned that pit bulls were banned here in the UK a few years ago and it hasn't worked anyway.

    People just register the dog as a different breed. A little girl was mauled here just the other week by a pit bull.

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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Sure but I never mentioned that pit bulls were banned here in the UK a few years ago and it hasn't worked anyway.

    People just register the dog as a different breed. A little girl was mauled here just the other week by a pit bull.
    I’d be a lying fool if I said that there wasn’t a problem with Pitbulls. Read my post #27 on page 1. I live in a neighborhood where I see them run loose sometimes. I don’t want to pat myself on the back here, but I feel that I got the only people friendly Pitbulls on my block and that’s sad. At least that’s what my mailman and police officers around here say. The answer is not banning the breed, because Dr. Frankenstein would create another monster. I believe only the law-abiding citizens can own a Pitbull. And if any known gang member is caught with one they should receive a STIFF penalty. A REALLY STIFF PENALTY! Pitbull breeding has gotten out of hand. In our local newspaper we have a Classified Ad section, Pitbulls is number one in total ads with 17 and the next are Chihuahua’s with 6. I see thug-ish looking people standing on corners/supermarkets/gas stations selling unregistered Pitbulls and at our local Fleamarket there is more stands selling unregistered Pitbulls than all other breeds combined. I’m open to all arguments and solutions accept saying that I can’t own a Pitbull.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    I believe only the law-abiding citizens can own a Pitbull.
    But the problem is that law-abiding citizen's pitbulls attack, too.

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    Did not the Japanese state "fix the problem"not the "blame"!!- ??

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