Great Records that only YOU know about.

[binnie]

I've always felt closer to the albums I own that I love but no-one else knows about. Anyone else know what I mean?

Sure, there are Classic albums, albums that every rock fan SHOULD own, and they have their magic, their brilliance their pure genius.

But then there's the great albums from the bands that should have been huge but weren't. The bands you mention to friends only to be met with a blank and vacant stare which says "Who? What the fuck are you talking about?"

Anyone got any albums like that? Albums that are like old friends?

[binnie]

I'll start.

My first three of these albums come from a British rock band: The Almighty. They started off as a sort of biker rock band, but by the time of their third studio album, Powertrippin', had become something unique, powerful and heavy as hell:

[IMG}http://www.jamiesummers.dsl.pipex.com/blog/almighty.gif[/IMG]

Imagine The Stone Temple Piliots meets Warrior Soul, but with a better lyricist and even more anger. I bought this album the day it came out, and love it to death.

Their next record, Crank, was even better. Pure fuckin anger, more stripped down than before and with more of a punk feel. I can't think of many albums with more punch or bite. Just pure power, with amazing lyrics than bite like a bitch on heat. This would be one of my top five favourite albums EVER:

[binnie]

Another one no-one's ever heard of:



Kerbdog - On the Turn.

Ireland's answer to grunge, a fuckin' amazing album. Taut and grating guitars, riff after riff after riff, immense chorus's, and songs which are relentlessly passionate and desperately catchy. Bob Mould would have killed to write this. Every song was a winner, IMO.

[binnie]

Next up, The Wildhearts - Earth vs the Wildhearts.



Massive Cheap Trick influence, but this band was far more abbrasive, Huge riffs, kick-yer-teeth in attitude and lyrics that told stories as well as making you grin from ear to ear. The Wildhearts have put out some killer records over the years, but they never came close to repeating this. Very, very British, and one of the best albums of the 90s, IMO.

[binnie]

I've got a couple of others too, but I thought I'd see if anyone else dug the idea of the thread first....

[LoungeMachine]

Great thread binnie

I give it 5 "I'd Hit Its"


I have 2 that to this day, are in heavy rotation in Casa De Lounge

Little Women

"Pretty Wiped Out"

ca. 1990 Portland band led by Jerry Joseph



The Pistoleros

"Hang Onto Nothing"

ca. 2000 Tempe band led by Lawrence Zubia

Pistoleros were actually started by Doug Hopkins after he was booted from The Gin Blossoms.


If anyone here has actually heard of either of these 2 disc I'd be FLABBERGHASTED

[binnie]

Cheers Lounge, stuff like that was exactly what I was talking about, the rare gems.

I've never heard of either band but I really liked the Gin Blossoms, so I'll check out the Pistoleros.

Many thanks

[katie]

My dad used to play these to me when I was growing up.
I still play them today.

Huge bombastic classic rock!

-----------------------------------------
Rockdetector Biography« Back to Artist Page

Stylish, Welsh Hard Rock merchants centred upon former UNIVERSE and SKID ROW guitarist PAUL CHAPMAN. LONE STAR was originally called IONA. Prior to adopting the LONE STAR title, a formative drummer, Steve Williams, joined QUEST in 1973 before he journeyed onto premier Welsh rockers BUDGIE. In turn, QUEST bassist Ray Jones joined LONE STAR in 1974.

During 1975, with original vocalist Kenny Driscoll, LONE STAR debuted with a British support slot to TED NUGENT to promote the Epic released ‘Lone Star’ album. Driscoll was to pack his bags in 1977 and was replaced by former TRAPPER vocalist JOHN SLOMAN, who recorded the second album, 'Firing On All Six', with the group. The group failed to survive though and guitarist Paul Chapman, following rehearsals with German act the SCORPIONS, rejoined UFO replacing the errant Michael Schenker whom he had covered for previously. A proposed third LONE STAR album 'Riding High' was shelved, finally seeing a belated release in 1999.

Sloman would, after contributing keyboards to UFO's 'The Wild, The Willing And The Innocent' album, end up joining URIAH HEEP for a period. Post URIAH HEEP Sloman formed part of the shortlived BADLANDS project assembled by ex-TYGERS OF PAN TANG guitarist JOHN SYKES and ex WHITESNAKE bassist Neil Murray. BADLANDS folded when Sykes got the call to join THIN LIZZY and Sloman went solo.

Drummer Dixie Lee teamed up with WILD HORSES before joining Canadian act STARCHILD then British Metal act PERSIAN RISK. He would also sit in on demos for the proto OZZY OSBOURNE band. Chapman's guitar partner Tony Smith formed SCREEN IDOLS with whom he released one album, 'Premiere', in 1979.

In July 2006 Chapman joined the GATOR COUNTRY BAND, a seasoned collection of MOLLY HATCHET veterans vocalist Jimmy Farrar, guitarist Steve Holland, bassist Riff West and drummer Bruce Crump.


Track Listings
1. She Said She Said (8:29)
2. Lonely Soldier (5:09)
3. Flying In The Reel (4:54)
4. Spaceships (6:44)
5. A New Day (5:14)
6. A Million Stars (3:50)
7. Illusions (3:12)

8. The Bells Of Berlin (6:55)
9. The Ballad Of Crafty Jack (3:41)
10. Time Lays Down (4:49)
11. Hypnotic Mover (4:27)
12. Lovely Lubina (3:36)
13. Seasons In Your Eyes (4:13)
14. Rivers Overflowing (4:57)
15. All Of Us To All Of You (4:55)

Total Time: 75:11

Line-up/Musicians
- Paul Chapman / guitars
- Tony Smith / guitars
- Rick Worsnop / keyboards
- Pete Hurley / bass
- Dixie Lee / drums
- Kenny Driscoll /vocals (1 - 7)
- John Sloman / vocals (8 - 15)

Releases information
Audio CD (May 31, 2004)
Number of Discs:1
Label: Bgo
ASIN: B0001ZXMJA
Catalogue Number: BGOCD618
This is a re-issue of the first two albums on one CD

This is the only youtube of the band.
Not their best track & not their best line up, but still good stuff.

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[ace diamond]

i have several.

for instance........Rogue male(kinda sounds like a motorhead rip off,but i dig 'em)

and HELLWITCH!!!

great stuff.

[ace diamond]

not to mention.......ME!

The Ace Diamond Experience-Prime Meridian Mind Fuck

my new cd....

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Most of the Great Albums that "only I know" are ones I advertise non-stop to anyone who will listen;

"Born Again Savage" by Little Steven [1999]



A pleasantly accessible mix of loud guitars, chugging rhythms and barked vocals surrounded by 60s mythology and imagery...even if the lyrics sometimes do get a bit daft.


"Snow" by Spock's Beard [2001]



I see it as "Tommy" for the 21st century (but marginally more proggy)...about a mind reading Albino Priest who can cure people but ultimatley creates his own downfall...the only thing that lets it down is the final cheesey "I love you" from Neal Morse, which may be because he quit the band once the album was released.


Refugee-Refugee [the year escapes me]



After Keith Emerson left The Nice to form ELP, the remainding 2 members of the band formed Refugee with Patrick Moraz. Sadly, they only managed one album when Moraz joined Yes for "Relayer".


Brian May-Back To The Light [1992]



Better than some Queen albums. Certainly in the Top 10 solo albums ever made. Slightly more rockin' than most Queen albums though. And "Let Your Heart Rule Your Head" is "39"'s slightly more electric younger half-cousin twice removed. The Small Faces cover is pretty fun too...although I prefer the cover of Mott The Hoople's "All The Way From Memphis" which he did on the follow up...which on the whole wasn't as good.


Slade-Old, New, Borrowed & Blue [1974]



Slade are normally viewed as a singles band...but they were a fucking good album band too. Get some early 70s Slade albums...they are fucking good. Better yet, get the 2-CD edition of "Slade Alive", features both volumes of "Slade Alive", plus "Slade on Stage" and the "Alive at Reading" EP. One of the best Live bands ever, For a band who were so successful in the UK, they are they so overlooked.

[binnie]

Cheers Shaun, the Refugee and Little Steven albums sound very interesting.

As you know, I'm not a Queen fan so I doubt I'll like Brian's album. Might give that Slade one a go though....

[binnie]

Originally posted by katie

You're the second person to mention this band to me. I must check them out.

Cheers

[ELVIS]

Here's one...



Parliament - Osmium - Their first full release from 1970

Excellent album! It has everything; Hendrix-Esque Acid Rock, Soul, Gospel, Country...COUNTRY ?!?

Yep...listen to this...

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Here are samples of the rest of the album...

I Call My Baby Pussycat

Put Love In Your Life

Moonshine Heather

Oh Lord, Why Lord - Prayer

My Automobile

Nothing Before Me But Thang

Funky Woman

Livin' the Life

The Silent Boatman

Red Hot Mama

Breakdown

Come in Out of the Rain

Fantasy Is Reality

Unfinished Instrumental

Loose Booty


Awesome album!

[ThrillsNSpills]

Link

best guitar album since VH

Greg Howe's album, "Ascend" is a collection of progressive compositions which highlight Howe's incredible technique and melodic genius. Howe duels with Shrapnel keyboard virtuoso Vitalij Kuprij in an intense progressive musical setting. Extreme Musicianship On-Board.

[FORD]

77's - Drowning with Land in Sight.



Featuring a Zeppelin cover that all the Kingdom Comes and Great Whites of the world would have killed for.....

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[FORD]

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[binnie]

Wow, cheers guys!

I'm digging that Parliament tune Elvis

[katie]

Originally posted by binnie
You're the second person to mention this band to me. I must check them out.

Cheers

Send me a PM with a contact address and I will mail some stuff out to you.

Ask Cato & Bob, they know i'm the real deal.

Great thread

Katie
x

[FORD]

Electric Eel Shock - if these guys spoke English better, they would be huge.......



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Saw these guys outside in the freezing cold in 2004. It was well worth it.

[FORD]

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[MAX]

The first U.K. album is absolutely epic.



The lineup:

John Wetton (Asia, Roxy Music, King Crimson) - Vocals, Bass

Bill Bruford (Yes, King Crimson, Brand X) - Drums, Percussion

Allan Holdsworth - Guitar

Eddie Jobson (Roxy Music, Jethro Tull, Frank Zappa) - Keyboards

I guess this one falls within the artsy/fartsy/fusion-type rock of the seventies? Nonetheless, this thing rocks and what little Holdsworth's on it, it's awesome and not like every single album he makes (excluding "Road Games") that sounds the same, IMO.

If I also remember correctly, I'm pretty sure U.K. opened for VH during their first headlining tour? I cannot remember but I'm almost positive that I've read that they did.

U.K. had other albums minus Holdsworth and Bruford which blew but this one's a classic.

If one's a musician, it's worth checking out cos it has a lot of brilliant work. Especially the songs "Thirty Years" and "In The Dead Of Night."

Also and I might as well mention this one cos it also has both Wetton and Bruford. Check out "Red" by King Crimson. Another great record, IMO.

[binnie]

Wow, this stuff was exactly what I was talking about! Loads of albums here that I've never heard of.

I should have called this thread "Diamonds in the Ruff"! LOL!!

[DrMaddVibe]

The Secret Machines.

[MAX]

Originally posted by MAX
The first U.K. album is absolutely epic.

Here's the album cover since I'm just seeing that red x within my post prior.

[bueno bob]

A few...

Altura - Mercy (1996, I think?)



Mostly it's in the vein of Dream Theater, and this was the only album they put out prior to splitting up, but it's very good...

Blitzspeer - Blitzspeer Live (1990)



Blitzspeer was a GREAT live band...so good, in fact, that their debut was this live EP. They followed it up with a studio album in 1991 (or 1992), but surprisingly enough, for as good as a live band as they were, they couldn't really hack it in the studio and were obviously still finding their legs. They split up not long afterwards, but I think the lead vocalist is now playing guitar in Monster Magnet...

Fear of God - Within the Veil (1991)



I'd heard rumors of a thrash metal band with a female lead singer in early 1990 called Detente, and heard that they'd signed to Warner Bros. and changed their name to Fear of God, so I figured I'd better check it out. Only other hard metal singer I'd ever heard of was Sacrilege, so...I was very pleasantly surprised! Not really thrash, but more goth/metal. Definitely innovative. Seemed like a strange combo to peeps I introduced it to (females and hard metal...no Lita Ford bullshit here), but with the influx of goth/prog/death metal bands now featuring female vocalists, I guess Fear of God kinda predates them all...

Forced Entry - Uncertain Future & As Above So Below





These guys came out of Seattle in the late '80s and put out these two albums, in addition to an EP called "The Shore". Uncertain Future isn't quite as good as their second album (As Above, So Below), but I can ABSOLUTELY say that both albums hold up with anything anybody else was doing...Overkill, Testament, Slayer, Anthrax, whoever else...why Forced Entry weren't able to continue on and make it work, I don't know, but these two albums are fucking outstanding...

[DLR'sCock]

Kyuss - Sky Valley
Supersuckers - Evil Powers of Rock n Roll
Nashville Pussy - Let Them Eat Pussy

[DLR'sCock]

Clutch - Blast Tyrant, Robot Hive/Exodus

Hank III - Straight to Hell

[binnie]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Kyuss - Sky Valley
Supersuckers - Evil Powers of Rock n Roll

I would recommend ANYTHING by Kyuss: "Blues for the Red Sun" is easily their best album, but they are all spectacular and totally unique. They should have been huge.

I thought that the Supersuckers had been making records just for me all of these years, LOL! "Evil Power..." is a great good time rock n roll album, with consitently strong songs and great lyrics. "Stuff and nonesense" is a great love song. Cool Manchu baby!

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Clutch - Blast Tyrant, Robot Hive/Exodus

Clutch! Immense band, kinda stoner rock does boogie. Neil Fallon is a one-off. I would recommend this to everyone, one of the best heavy bands of our time. "Pure Rock Fury" and "Robot Hive" are also great records. Great to find someone else who digs 'em!

[binnie]

Originally posted by bueno bob


Forced Entry - Uncertain Future & As Above So Below





These guys came out of Seattle in the late '80s and put out these two albums, in addition to an EP called "The Shore". Uncertain Future isn't quite as good as their second album (As Above, So Below), but I can ABSOLUTELY say that both albums hold up with anything anybody else was doing...Overkill, Testament, Slayer, Anthrax, whoever else...why Forced Entry weren't able to continue on and make it work, I don't know, but these two albums are fucking outstanding...

Bob, given that you have recommended so many albums to me since I joined this site, I will definately check these out. Thrash is my favourite sub-genre so I'm bound to dig it

[AndyChad]

Originally posted by katie


My dad used to play these to me when I was growing up.
I still play them today.

Huge bombastic classic rock!

-----------------------------------------
Rockdetector Biography« Back to Artist Page

Stylish, Welsh Hard Rock merchants centred upon former UNIVERSE and SKID ROW guitarist PAUL CHAPMAN. LONE STAR was originally called IONA. Prior to adopting the LONE STAR title, a formative drummer, Steve Williams, joined QUEST in 1973 before he journeyed onto premier Welsh rockers BUDGIE. In turn, QUEST bassist Ray Jones joined LONE STAR in 1974.

During 1975, with original vocalist Kenny Driscoll, LONE STAR debuted with a British support slot to TED NUGENT to promote the Epic released ‘Lone Star’ album. Driscoll was to pack his bags in 1977 and was replaced by former TRAPPER vocalist JOHN SLOMAN, who recorded the second album, 'Firing On All Six', with the group. The group failed to survive though and guitarist Paul Chapman, following rehearsals with German act the SCORPIONS, rejoined UFO replacing the errant Michael Schenker whom he had covered for previously. A proposed third LONE STAR album 'Riding High' was shelved, finally seeing a belated release in 1999.

Sloman would, after contributing keyboards to UFO's 'The Wild, The Willing And The Innocent' album, end up joining URIAH HEEP for a period. Post URIAH HEEP Sloman formed part of the shortlived BADLANDS project assembled by ex-TYGERS OF PAN TANG guitarist JOHN SYKES and ex WHITESNAKE bassist Neil Murray. BADLANDS folded when Sykes got the call to join THIN LIZZY and Sloman went solo.

Drummer Dixie Lee teamed up with WILD HORSES before joining Canadian act STARCHILD then British Metal act PERSIAN RISK. He would also sit in on demos for the proto OZZY OSBOURNE band. Chapman's guitar partner Tony Smith formed SCREEN IDOLS with whom he released one album, 'Premiere', in 1979.

In July 2006 Chapman joined the GATOR COUNTRY BAND, a seasoned collection of MOLLY HATCHET veterans vocalist Jimmy Farrar, guitarist Steve Holland, bassist Riff West and drummer Bruce Crump.


Track Listings
1. She Said She Said (8:29)
2. Lonely Soldier (5:09)
3. Flying In The Reel (4:54)
4. Spaceships (6:44)
5. A New Day (5:14)
6. A Million Stars (3:50)
7. Illusions (3:12)

8. The Bells Of Berlin (6:55)
9. The Ballad Of Crafty Jack (3:41)
10. Time Lays Down (4:49)
11. Hypnotic Mover (4:27)
12. Lovely Lubina (3:36)
13. Seasons In Your Eyes (4:13)
14. Rivers Overflowing (4:57)
15. All Of Us To All Of You (4:55)

Total Time: 75:11

Line-up/Musicians
- Paul Chapman / guitars
- Tony Smith / guitars
- Rick Worsnop / keyboards
- Pete Hurley / bass
- Dixie Lee / drums
- Kenny Driscoll /vocals (1 - 7)
- John Sloman / vocals (8 - 15)

Releases information
Audio CD (May 31, 2004)
Number of Discs:1
Label: Bgo
ASIN: B0001ZXMJA
Catalogue Number: BGOCD618
This is a re-issue of the first two albums on one CD

This is the only youtube of the band.
Not their best track & not their best line up, but still good stuff.

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Wow Katie, this just landed from Amazon today.

Had the vinyl versions years ago and thought it time I upgraded.

Bells of Berlin, top track.

[katie]

Originally posted by AndyChad
Wow Katie, this just landed from Amazon today.

Had the vinyl versions years ago and thought it time I upgraded.

Bells of Berlin, top track.

You sir have great taste!

My faves are from 1st LP
She Said, She Said & Spaceships - Simply jaw-dropping AWESOME!

BTW Love Bells of berlin - great drumming.

Listen to these tracks with the headphones on, great stereo seperation & panning.

Loving this thread

[AndyChad]

Originally posted by katie
You sir have great taste!

My faves are from 1st LP
She Said, She Said & Spaceships - Simply jaw-dropping AWESOME!

BTW Love Bells of berlin - great drumming.

Listen to these tracks with the headphones on, great stereo seperation & panning.

Loving this thread

Great clip of "All of Us..", but doesn't the riff remind you of "Burn" by

Purple?!! Always liked John Slomans voice, saw him with Uriah Heep

years ago.

May get shot down here everyone, but have a listen to Steve Hogarth

era Marillion especially "Afraid of Sunlight". Great singer/songwriter.

"Gazpacho" from this album is great.

[FORD]

If you loved the first three Clash albums, but wondered what the fuck they were thinking with Sandanista, you will love Operation Ivy.....




They didn't make this video, but it fits the times......

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[FORD]

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[jharp84]

1) Adam Bomb - Fatal Attraction

2) TKO - In Your Face!

[bueno bob]

Savatage - Sirens (1983)

Most people know them from either "Hall of the Mountain King" or as Savatage-Lite aka Trans-Siberian Orchestra...but their debut in 1983, "Sirens", ranks right up there with Iron Maiden, Metallica...any other metal band that came out with their first album in the 80s...

In my own personal list, Sirens ranks at #3 on my list of all time top 10 debut albums by ANYBODY, period...back in '83, they were signed to a tiny label in Florida known as Par Records; copies of the album were so few and far between that Steve Wacholz (drummer) once told me people had 5th/6th generation copied cassettes...

Fucking shame...Criss Oliva's guitar skill was...beyond reproach - simply fucking incredible, the best parts of Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhoads and a bit of Yngwie Malmsteen thrown in for good measure...where they could have gone with REAL management and representation...

Ahhh well...trust me though, this album is a FUCKING ALL TIME CLASSIC.

[cMb]

An old school thrash/power metal band who (unfortunately) signed with Profile Records in the late 80's.

Profile pretty much ruined their career by not funding or promoting them, but not letting them out of their deal either.

This classic metal gem never got the recognition it deserved.

Outstanding production, vocals & a killer guitar tone from what had to be a minimal budget.

[binnie]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Savatage - Sirens (1983)

Most people know them from either "Hall of the Mountain King" or as Savatage-Lite aka Trans-Siberian Orchestra...but their debut in 1983, "Sirens", ranks right up there with Iron Maiden, Metallica...any other metal band that came out with their first album in the 80s...

In my own personal list, Sirens ranks at #3 on my list of all time top 10 debut albums by ANYBODY, period...back in '83, they were signed to a tiny label in Florida known as Par Records; copies of the album were so few and far between that Steve Wacholz (drummer) once told me people had 5th/6th generation copied cassettes...

Fucking shame...Criss Oliva's guitar skill was...beyond reproach - simply fucking incredible, the best parts of Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhoads and a bit of Yngwie Malmsteen thrown in for good measure...where they could have gone with REAL management and representation...

Ahhh well...trust me though, this album is a FUCKING ALL TIME CLASSIC.

I might give this a spin. I've never really liked Savatge, a little OTT for my taste. In fact, I've always thought of them as a poor man's Queensryche. I appreciate the musicianship, just don't care for the style. I'll check it out though Master Bob.

[Panamark]

BB I have that album, the force is strong !