Who's taking the cornfield caucus.
As much as I want Kucinich to take the whole thing, I'm predicting Edwards will take the lead.
I'll live with anyone but Hillary.
Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama
John Edwards
Dennis Kucinich
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
Mike Gravel
Official Front Line IOWA Caucus Prediction Poll - Democrat Edition
Who's taking the cornfield caucus.
As much as I want Kucinich to take the whole thing, I'm predicting Edwards will take the lead.
I'll live with anyone but Hillary.
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I think you are right Ford, Edwards has alot of buzz going into the Hawkeye Cauci. But he should since he has been campaining there for 4 to 5 yrs now.
Does this mean you'll die if she wins?Originally posted by FORD
I'll live with anyone but Hillary.
Isn't she currently leading in the polls?
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Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.
This country will die if she winsOriginally posted by Guitar Shark
Does this mean you'll die if she wins?
Isn't she currently leading in the polls?
(The nomination, anyway. Not just Iowa)
good thing it's the full nomination, cause i think she's winning iowa, FORD...
I think Obama takes it...
I'll go with Obama, I just hope he gets a Mexican running mate.
Originally posted by letsrock
I'll go with Obama, I just hope he gets a Mexican running mate.
That's entirely possible........
Edwards.
Originally Posted by Kristy
Obama for the win.
With about a third of the precincts reporting, it's a statistical dead heat in the cornfields......
Senator Barack Obama : 32.98%
Senator John Edwards : 32.29%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.88%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.70%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.01%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.08%
Uncommitted : 0.06%
Precincts Reporting: 586 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)
Numbers from http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/
Refreshed every 30 seconds.
Shrillary in THIRD !!!!
Gotta love it
Barack has pulled ahead at 36+% to a dead heat of John and Hillery at roughly 30% each...
Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-03-2008 at 09:45 PM.
Just goes to show you how many stupid people live in iowaOriginally posted by FORD
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.08%
Should be 18%
I watched the "sample" caucus that C-Span was airing. From what I saw, if all the Kucinich, Dodd, Richardson, and Biden supporters could have agreed on one candidate, they probably could have made that one candidate viable, but instead they split off into the other three camps.
I'm hoping that Edwards gains a lot in the last 100 precincts or so, because I want Hillary in a definite third place. Not "tied for 2nd". I want that bitch gone by South Carolina.
News reports coming in that Biden and Dodd have both called it quits. Probably will make it official tomorrow.
Dodd should be the next Senate Majority Leader. And Dennis Kucinich the next speaker of the house.
Final numbers from Iowa will come soon.........
Final Iowa Caucus results:
Senator Barack Obama : 37.58%
Senator John Edwards : 29.75%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 29.47%
Governor Bill Richardson : 2.11%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.93%
Uncommitted : 0.14%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.02%
Precincts Reporting: 1781 of 1781
Hillary got rolled.
Funny how all of the networks and CNN especially tried to hide the dismal 3rd place showing of Mrs. Bill Clinton.... but not a surprise to me.
Dude, you're out of your fucking mind! Seriously! It was the biggest thing I've heard all day --ON CNN!!Originally posted by Jim Shetterlini
Funny how all of the networks and CNN especially tried to hide the dismal 3rd place showing of Mrs. Bill Clinton.... but not a surprise to me.
The only other part of the discussion is that Edwards might be finished. But clearly no one hid the fact that Hillery got owned...
Clinton out of it Edwards says
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...ton/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...sis/index.html
Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-04-2008 at 07:42 PM.
Gotta love the whore media spin.....
Edwards, who came in at #2 with no corporate financing and very little media coverage is "finished", while Hillary, the media annointed "front runner" since January 20, 2005 finishes third, and it's a minor bump in the road.
Face it, if the preliminary media hype is the standard to measure results by, Hillary TANKED, and Edwards performed far better than expectations.
If Hillary doesn't win New Hampshire, she's done. Because she's not taking South Carolina. And even Harry Reid's kid isn't going to be able to deliver Nevada for her if she goes in 0 - 3.
Hopefully by then, the "electability" machine will kick in, and that DLC whore will be completely locked out of Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Tuesday.
Last edited by FORD; 01-04-2008 at 09:05 PM.
And now, this brief FORD editorial.....
It just hit me today how HUGE this really is.
I'm not saying Obama will be President. I'm not even saying he's my preferred candidate yet.
But the reality is, a black man named for his African father won the first major Presidential primary in the USA last night.
That's history, my friends. And regardless of what else happens, it's a damn big step forward for this country.
And yet...people will still be crying how racist this country is and how disadvantaged people are...
And they'd be correct on the former, and wrong about the latter....Originally posted by Blackflag
And yet...people will still be crying how racist this country is and how disadvantaged people are...
And racists come in all colors....
The only disadvantaged people in the US are those who must vote via Diebold.
There are always random assholes and haters, no matter where you are. There are probably even weird people out there that don't like me. But what the fuck, a mostly white state just voted for a black dude to be president. If that's not acceptance, then nothing ever will be.Originally posted by LoungeMachine
And they'd be correct on the former,
Fair point about the 'all colors,' though.
Last edited by Blackflag; 01-05-2008 at 01:21 AM.
Agreed. It does my heart good...Originally posted by FORD
And now, this brief FORD editorial.....
It just hit me today how HUGE this really is.
I'm not saying Obama will be President. I'm not even saying he's my preferred candidate yet.
But the reality is, a black man named for his African father won the first major Presidential primary in the USA last night.
That's history, my friends. And regardless of what else happens, it's a damn big step forward for this country.
Actually, bigots come in all colors. Racism implies power, to institutionally oppress or marginalize a group of people, and minorities do not as a rule have that ability, sorry...Originally posted by LoungeMachine
And racists come in all colors....
Ya know I love ya, Lounge, but y'know...personal experience on the subject speaking here..
Why is JHale playing the race card..?
No, I wasn't/didn't.Originally posted by Blackflag
Why is JHale playing the race card..?
Y'know, word usage and whatnot...
Carry on...
Another issue involving the Obama victory was the fact that voters are sending a clear message that they are fed up with this Bush/Clinton, Bush/Clinton dynasty. I don't think it mattered if Obama was a blue colored martian from planet Saturn, the citizens of Iowa clearly stated their disdain for HITLARY. It is obvious that Americans want change and Obama brings a breath of fresh air to politics. Personally, I don't care for his left leaning politics but anyone is better than Hitlary. Vote Ron Paul!!!!!
There's no question that people on both sides are sick of political dynasties...
Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-06-2008 at 12:16 PM.
Originally posted by FORD
This country will die if she wins
(The nomination, anyway. Not just Iowa)Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Shrillary in THIRD !!!!
Gotta love it
Not only that but he was raised Muslim. Only the Nazi Mormon Mitt supporters in the Rocky Mountain region are talking shit about Obama saying he's an Al Quaida transplant. But of course these are people who really believe the Mormon Church will eventually take over the world.Originally posted by FORD
And now, this brief FORD editorial.....
It just hit me today how HUGE this really is.
I'm not saying Obama will be President. I'm not even saying he's my preferred candidate yet.
But the reality is, a black man named for his African father won the first major Presidential primary in the USA last night.
That's history, my friends. And regardless of what else happens, it's a damn big step forward for this country.
No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!
I'm really surprised the conspiracy nuts here haven't seized on that point. In some crazy episode of Jack Bauer, I could see it all playing out like this. If they were going to plant somebody, wouldn't it be just like this? :fucku2:Originally posted by Nitro Express
Not only that but he was raised Muslim. Only the Nazi Mormon Mitt supporters in the Rocky Mountain region are talking shit about Obama saying he's an Al Quaida transplant. But of course these are people who really believe the Mormon Church will eventually take over the world.
Last edited by Blackflag; 01-06-2008 at 09:55 PM.
No.Originally posted by Blackflag
If they [ radical muslims ]were going to plant somebody, wouldn't it be just like this?[ Obama] :fucku2:
If radical muslims were going to "plant" someone who would carry out their EVERY wish here on earth......
They'd plant George W. Bush.
Think about it.
Your hatred for Bush is blinding you. He represents the rich in the U.S. and Saudi Arabia. AlQaeda has different goals, including the downfall of the Saudis and Israel.
Nevertheless, it's a fun conspiracy theory. If they were ever going to get somebody through to the presidency, it would be some dude who was schooled by them at an early age, then immediately moved to the U.S.
Originally posted by Blackflag
Your hatred for Bush is blinding you. He represents the rich in the U.S. and Saudi Arabia. AlQaeda has different goals, including the downfall of the Saudis and Israel.
.
We were playing "conspiracy corner"
You with your predictable "Look at the black muslim, he must be dangerous" shtick....
While I pointed it out that a radical muslim's wet dream would be an America in utter fear, spying on themselves, wasting treasure and thousands of lives occupying land that then breeds more recruits, sympathy, and donations to fight the Infidels.
America has never been more under the thumb of these sand eating morons, and it's all thanks to the BUSH ADMINISTRATION.
I love how you like to crack wise and play, yet all of a sudden get all Harrumph with your stupid "you hate bush too much" mantra.
You play this game alot in here.
If you don't think the Bush Administration and their allies in big oil and defense contractors have played into the hands of "Al Qaeda" [cough cough] then you're dumber than I thought.
I play that game with everybody, not just in here.Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You play this game alot in here.
It's not that he's a 'black muslim' that makes it interesting. A muslim born and raised in the US isn't that interesting. But I understand this guy was educated overseas. Is that right?
Is anybody else having a hard time posting??
It's been difficult off and on over the past few days, it seems...:confused:Originally posted by Blackflag
Is anybody else having a hard time posting??
I'm gonna go with Chris Dodd even though my Blood Alcohol content is higher than his percentage.Originally posted by FORD
With about a third of the precincts reporting, it's a statistical dead heat in the cornfields......
Senator Barack Obama : 32.98%
Senator John Edwards : 32.29%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.88%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.70%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.01%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.08%
Uncommitted : 0.06%
Precincts Reporting: 586 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)
Numbers from http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/
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