Stimulus breakdown by city

[sadaist]

Found this interesting site. All I can say is to look at it for yourself. I see Wilmington, DE with $54 million to create 84 jobs. Sounds like a bad use of taxpayer dollars. Then I see Alton, IL with $7.2 million for 500 jobs, which sounds like a much more productive use of money.

Since I'm not really familiar with these towns and their needs, I went to the San Diego page. One gross waste of money I see is $3.5 million for the "Rose Creek Bike Path". This is a very small bike path along a portion of Mission Bay. It's not great but is still very usable. Sure it could probably use an upgrade or two, but very few people actually use it in comparison with the local population. People on bikes in that area are more likely to hit the nearby boardwalks in Mission, Ocean, & Pacific Beach or La Jolla.

Maybe your city is in here and you can shed some light on your local projects.

http://www.usmayors.org/mainstreetec...rticipants.asp

[Va Beach VH Fan]

1 Billion clams and 8,000 jobs for Va Beach....

Only have a clue about a handful of stuff...

[sadaist]

1 Billion clams and 8,000 jobs for Va Beach....

Only have a clue about a handful of stuff...

8,000 jobs sounds pretty good though. I hope those are sustainable jobs and not just one time contacting services and such.

[twonabomber]

Mentor, Ohio, where i work, and lived one town over or ten minutes away from for most of my life...$14,813,000.00 and 156 jobs.

Mentor is just about the biggest retail center in the state, and it's got a decent amount of commercial property.

$1 mil to resurface various asphalt streets, and another mil to do full depth concrete repairs to various streets. 22 jobs total, but from what i've seen those jobs go to contractors/best bidder and likely won't be new jobs, especially if the contractor is not a Mentor company.

$3 mil to resurface Tyler Boulevard from SR 615 to SR 306. Tyler is the major commercial corridor in the city, and it is a shitty road. four lanes with no turning lane and "expansion joints" that give ya that "thump thump thump" ride. the local titty bar is on this road too, so i travel it often. 15 contractor jobs.

$5 mil to widen Heisley Road from 2 lanes to 4 lanes from Jackson Street to Mentor Avenue (US 20). this one's gonna be a bitch. Heisley is one of the city's major north/south corridors connecting the freeways to the commercial and retail areas. there are a lot of old homes on this stretch and those people are going to lose a lot of front yard. sucks to be them but they knew it was coming eventually. 20 contractor jobs.

$2.2 mil to renovate and expand the police department. building isn't really that old (late 70's maybe) but they love their traffic and DUI rev-o-noo so this is no surprise. $255,000 for three more cops, too, two of which will likely be flaming assholes because that's typically what Mentor PD hires. can you tell that this is where i get most of my speeding tickets? 50 jobs, doubtful that city guys will be doing the work.

$300,000 to replace bulkheads at the city owned marina. a marina the city didn't really have the money to buy but they kept it out of the hands of developers and accessible to the public. more contractor jobs.

a bunch of energy improvement projects. we did these at work and most of them were contractors, our maintenance did maybe 20% of the work.

156 jobs and the three cops will probably be the only new and sustainable ones.

[kwame k]

Airport upgrades and acquisitions 106,500,000 50
Infectious disease outreach 350,000 2
Intervention programs 250,000 2
Pervention programs dealing with nuitrition education, obesity and other childhood diseases 400,000 2
Technology upgrades - Public health 2,000,000 3
Remove 40,000 dead ash and sliver maple trees 4,000,000 5
Capital projects for Parks and recreation 32,300,000 10
Reconstruction/resurfacing of 150 miles of major roadway throught the city. 75,000,000 50
Detroit MI Energy Remote meter reading 1,250,000 2
Detroit MI Energy Installation of 2 60 MVA Turbine Generators 85,000,000 3
Detroit MI Energy 24000V to 4800vDistribution Sys Conversion 15,450,000 5
Detroit MI Energy Conversion and upgrading of mercury vapor series fed street lights to sodium vapor multiple street lights 88,000,000 5
Detroit MI Energy Relay Replacement Program 4,300,000 5
Detroit MI Energy Traffic Signal Feed Upgrades 5,200,000 5
Detroit MI Energy Upgrades to municipal center to adopt "green" operational initiatives 45,000,000 600
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Riopelle Park, open space improvements 350,000 4
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Pedestrian bridge over M-8, paint deck patch 400,000 5
Detroit MI Streets/Roads HMA crack seal 500,000 6
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 3 railroad bridges, substructure repair 700,000 7
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Capitol Park, open space improvements 600,000 7
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Removal of railroad structure 640,000 7
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Construct and install internally illuminated street name signes at 25 locations in the downtown 500,000 10
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Install new pedestrain crosswalks in the downtown area 500,000 10
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Detection system replacement, 100 sites 1,000,000 13
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Second, Hamilton, Woodward, John R, Epoxy Overlay 1,400,000 20
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Paradise Valley, Streetscape and open space improvements 2,500,000 22
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Vinewood Universal Crossover - CN, Reduce railroad congestion and emissions and construct universal crossover 2,500,000 22
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Design plaza ramp and local ramp work 1,270,000 30
Detroit MI Streets/Roads I-94, ITS Expansion 4,430,000 30
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Schaefer Highway, pump station 1,260,000 30
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 7 bridges over M-39, superstructure repair 1,200,000 32
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Milwaukee pump station 1,350,000 32
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Seldon pump station 1,350,000 32
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Woodingham pump station 1,350,000 32
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Dequindre Trail, Non-motorized greenway 1,000,000 35
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Jefferson outlet, pump station 2,200,000 35
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 1 bridge over I-94, deck replacement 1,500,000 40
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 45 MPH Crossover, reduce railroad congestion and emissions, construct crossover 2,700,000 40
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Joseph Campau over M-8, paint, deck patch 2,100,000 42
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 2 bridges over M-39, 1 superstructure repair and 1 deck replacement 3,000,000 45
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 3 bridges over I-94, substructure repair and repainting 3,000,000 45
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Goddard over M-8, deck replacement 2,500,000 45
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Track upgrade, reduce railroad congestion and emissions; replace ties and rail primarliy on Main 2 3,000,000 45
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 3 bridges over I-96, deck replacement 3,892,000 50
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 5 bridges over M-39, CPM 4,000,000 50
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Improve traffic safety by retrofitting pedestrian traffic signals with countdown times and push buttons at 100 intersections 2,000,000 50
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Reconstruction/Rehabilitation of 11 vehicular and pedestrian bridges throught Detroit. 17,000,000 50
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Crossover at West Detroit, reduce railroad congestion and emissions and construct universal crossover 4,500,000 55
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Lower Woodward Cross Streets, streetscape 3,300,000 60
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Atwater, Orleans, Riopelle, riverfront development and infrastructure 5,000,000 70
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 4 bridges over M-39, 4 deck replacements 7,000,000 80
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Device upgrade 7,000,000 80
Detroit MI Streets/Roads DMS Replacement - 35 signs 7,000,000 80
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Dock and terminal project, additional phases 8,783,093 95
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 5 bridges over I-94, 3 deck replacements and 2 deck patch 8,500,000 100
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 5 bridges over M-39, 3 super replacements and 2 deck replacements 10,000,000 125
Detroit MI Streets/Roads US-24 to I-275, bridge CPM 10,000,000 125
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 7 bridges over I-96, deck replacement 12,412,000 190
Detroit MI Streets/Roads 6 bridges over M-39, 1 super replacement and 5 deck replacements 14,800,000 200
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Construct Rosa Parks Integrated Campus 11,800,000 220
Detroit MI Streets/Roads Sanders, Pleasant and NS RR, 3 bridge replacements 18,000,000 220
Detroit MI Streets/Roads M-85 Sibley to Goddard, reconstruct 57,250,000 600
Detroit MI Transit Capital Assets 13,000,000 2
Detroit MI Transit Bus stop improvements 3,000,000 5
Detroit MI Transit Communications equipment 39,000,000 5
Detroit MI Transit Facility improvements and upgrades 61,000,000 25
Detroit MI Transit New Bus Acquisitions 15,000,000 50
Detroit MI Transit Ann Arbor to Detroit, passenger rail, rail coach and cab car purchase and rehabilitation for passenger service 6,000,000 80
Detroit MI Transit Construct administration facility - Rosa Parks Transportation Center 18,000,000 220
Detroit MI Water Upgrades to Upper Rouge Tunnel CSO Control Project 270,600,000 1200

Totals: $1,147,637,093.00 5,559.00

For that kind of money they should just level the Old Town and start over.

[FORD]

Guess my city's not getting shit. Not even on the list.

[chefcraig]

Guess my city's not getting shit. Not even on the list.

Mine is, and the totals are odd to say the least. $84,887,500.00 that creates 517 jobs, the majority of which are landscaping jobs. Only 5 new police officers will be hired, yet at least some of the money is going toward departmental upgrades. More than anything, the money looks to be spent on projects to make the city prettier, while ignoring some of it's more pressing needs.

[FORD]

Mine is, and the totals are odd to say the least. $84,887,500.00 that creates 517 jobs, the majority of which are landscaping jobs. Only 5 new police officers will be hired, yet at least some of the money is going toward departmental upgrades. More than anything, the money looks to be spent on projects to make the city prettier, while ignoring some of it's more pressing needs.

I'll resist the temptation here to make a joke about Charlie Crist & decorating.

[Seshmeister]

Guess my city's not getting shit. Not even on the list.

City State Program Project Description Funding Required Jobs
Waco TX Airport Waco Regional Airport Runway Safety Areas 450,000 10
Waco TX CDBG Pedestrian Safety(sidewalks) 1,000,000 20
Waco TX CDBG Webster & Cross Roads Drainage 1,000,000 20
Waco TX CDBG Sul Ross Park Redevelopment 3,000,000 30
Waco TX CDBG US 84 Hike & Bike Trail Bridge 2,000,000 40
Waco TX CDBG Mammoth Site, Phase 2 6,000,000 60
Waco TX CDBG Dewey Recreation Center 7,500,000 80
Waco TX Public Safety Police Firing Range 2,000,000 30
Waco TX Public Safety Public Safety Radio System Repalcement 8,000,000 30
Waco TX Public Safety Fire Station Construction at four locations 9,500,000 70
Waco TX Streets/Roads Ritchie Road-RR to Warren 2,000,000 40
Waco TX Streets/Roads Loop 574-I35 to SH6 20,000,000 300
Waco TX Transit ADA & Medicare Scheduling Software 155,000 1
Waco TX Transit 10 Paratransit vans 520,000 5
Waco TX Transit 15 ADA vans 1,425,000 10
Waco TX Water Central Texas Water Reclamation 7,000,000 100
Waco TX Water Regional Wastewater Infrastructure 10,000,000 150
Totals: $81,550,000.00 996.00

[FORD]

One of my uncles actually lived in Waco for a while, but that was in the 70's. Great bass fishing, horrible humidity around there.

There will probably be some major money going into the toxic waste cleanup a few miles west of Waco though...... in Crawford when they knock down that phony mansion that Chimpy used as a stage prop for the last 8 years.

[Dr. Love]

Waco is a massive shithole that should cease to exist

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Guess my city's not getting shit. Not even on the list.

That's 'cause nobody gives a shit about the Left Coast....

[Dr. Love]

lol you got pwnd ford... here's my cities' (all of them have grown into the metroplex and I have worked in several of them from one residence) data:

City...................Dollars.............................Jobs
Arlington.............$387,363,019.00............. ..2,567.20.
Bedford...............$39,205,000.00.............. ..532.00.
Blue.Mound..........$6,500,000.00................. .86.00.
Carrollton............$8,000,000.00............... ...2,000.00.
Dallas.................$1,222,823,842.00.......... ..12,124.00.
Euless................$104,336,300.00............. ..1,306.00.
Flower.Mound......$1,536,177.00..................3 1.00.
Fort.Worth..........$1,707,290,000.00............2 1,344.00.
Frisco.................$259,320,000.00............ ..21.25.
Garland...............$23,336,650.00.............. ..0.00..(lol.what)
Grand.Prarie........$115,076,546.00............... 2,461.00.
Hurst.................$45,316,510.00.............. ..739.00.
Irving.................$1,287,330,336.00.......... ..9,058.00.
McKinney............$33,018,000.00................ 815.00.
Mesquite............$23,290,000.00................ .0.00.
N.Richland.Hills....$677,628,804.00............... 2,051.50


Total: $5,941,371,184 and 55,135.95 jobs... and that's just from skimming the list, and only for cities within about 30 miles or so from where I love (give or take). LOL, Blue Mound has maybe a thousand people tops and they even got money. Guess we have better representatives than you. ;)

[jhale667]

LA's list is too big to post here, but roughly $7.3 Billion for 82,000 jobs...only a million spent on green energy programs..my neighborhood and office's district are getting the energy-saving street lighting retrofit...that's not a bad thing, I guess...

[Redballjets88]

lol you got pwnd ford... here's my cities' (all of them have grown into the metroplex and I have worked in several of them from one residence) data:

City...................Dollars.............................Jobs
Arlington.............$387,363,019.00............. ..2,567.20.
Bedford...............$39,205,000.00.............. ..532.00.
Blue.Mound..........$6,500,000.00................. .86.00.
Carrollton............$8,000,000.00............... ...2,000.00.
Dallas.................$1,222,823,842.00.......... ..12,124.00.
Euless................$104,336,300.00............. ..1,306.00.
Flower.Mound......$1,536,177.00..................3 1.00.
Fort.Worth..........$1,707,290,000.00............2 1,344.00.
Frisco.................$259,320,000.00............ ..21.25.
Garland...............$23,336,650.00.............. ..0.00..(lol.what)
Grand.Prarie........$115,076,546.00............... 2,461.00.
Hurst.................$45,316,510.00.............. ..739.00.
Irving.................$1,287,330,336.00.......... ..9,058.00.
McKinney............$33,018,000.00................ 815.00.
Mesquite............$23,290,000.00................ .0.00.
N.Richland.Hills....$677,628,804.00............... 2,051.50


Total: $5,941,371,184 and 55,135.95 jobs... and that's just from skimming the list, and only for cities within about 30 miles or so from where I love (give or take). LOL, Blue Mound has maybe a thousand people tops and they even got money. Guess we have better representatives than you.

My city is on the list too, fuck yeah.

[sadaist]

Guess my city's not getting shit. Not even on the list.

No worries Ford. The "twin" cities I live in now didn't make it...Murrieta & Temecula, CA (About 45 minutes N of San Diego, & 60 minutes SE of Los Angeles). Murrieta population around 75,000, not sure about Temecula but it's larger than that. Tons of wineries too. Either they didn't request money for two reasons..they didn't feel the need or they fucked up & didn't get a request in in time. Or maybe the list is incomplete.

[jhale667]

Yeah, didn't see my hometown on there, either...

[Big Train]

Every post in this thread is another reason to say fuck this bill, start over.

This reads more like a "funding dream list" than the best bang for the buck for ALL americans.

Most of these, as pointed out above, might sustain existing jobs, but they aren't really long term solutions to anything. We aren't really (outside of green energy) talking about rapidly funding new INDUSTRIES, with long term jobs, we are talking about fixing the place up to make a few extra bucks. Don't get me wrong, the place certainly does need fixing up, but that should be after we have a paycheck to go to the Home Depot with.

[Big Train]

Jhale, aren't you happy though that they will finally be fixing up those shithole apts? The illegal immigrants who they will hire with no social, sending the money back home, that will really perk up the local economy.

Obama...change (and dollars) you can believe in...


Angeles CA CDBG Maya Townhomes 730,000 52
Los Angeles CA CDBG My Townhomes 918,000 52
Los Angeles CA CDBG Mediterranean Apts. 719,000 56
Los Angeles CA CDBG PH&D Apts. 1,336,000 85
Los Angeles CA CDBG Swansea Senior 1,539,000 112
Los Angeles CA CDBG Hollywood Bungalow Courts 390,000 1

[GAR]

I went to the San Diego page. One gross waste of money I see is $3.5 million for the "Rose Creek Bike Path". This is a very small bike path along a portion of Mission Bay. It's not great but is still very usable..

and.. EDIBLE!

You may not know this, but that area of the Mission Bay Bike Path runs between a high-dollar condo development of over one dozen units total near the golf course and is paved in Yellowtail Sushi rolls.

Of course it is going to be costly, but I'm hungry now not 20 years from now when there's nothing left to eat.

[GAR]

Jhale, aren't you happy though that they will finally be fixing up those shithole apts? The illegal immigrants who they will hire with no social, sending the money back home, that will really perk up the local economy.

Obama...change (and dollars) you can believe in...


Angeles CA CDBG Maya Townhomes 730,000 52
Los Angeles CA CDBG My Townhomes 918,000 52
Los Angeles CA CDBG Mediterranean Apts. 719,000 56
Los Angeles CA CDBG PH&D Apts. 1,336,000 85
Los Angeles CA CDBG Swansea Senior 1,539,000 112
Los Angeles CA CDBG Hollywood Bungalow Courts 390,000 1

I can just see all the sandpiles for all the stucco work being interrupted by the 6 month vacations the beaners take from September to March sitting curbside, while the construction trailers sit idle collecting parking citations, graffiti and the homeless who sleep underneath all down Glenoaks and San Fernando Road.