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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49137

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    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 11-10-2023, 01:02 PM.

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35163

      Originally posted by silverfish

      Kiss Announces Pay-Per-View Event for Final Show



      Kiss will officially reach the end of their End of the Road Tour on Dec. 2 at New York's Madison Square
      Garden, and they're offering fans from all over the world a chance to bid them farewell with a livestream
      pay-per-view event.

      The rockers' final bow will stream worldwide exclusively on PPV.com and also be available on pay-per-view
      via cable and satellite operators in the United States and Canada. The concert will cost $39.99 in those
      territories and $14.99 outside of North America. No subscription is required. Indemand, the parent company
      of PPV.com, will also carry the event through its network of cable, satellite and telco providers, including
      Xfinity, Spectrum, Contour, Optimum, Fios, DirecTV and more.


      Full story at:
      https://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss...ew-final-show/
      That's not a bad idea but $39.99 is a rip off especially at this point.

      Could someone in the US not just use a VPN to get the international rate?

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      • silverfish
        Foot Soldier
        • Mar 2007
        • 549

        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        That's not a bad idea but $39.99 is a rip off especially at this point.

        Could someone in the US not just use a VPN to get the international rate?
        Yeah, $40. is squeezing the "last" bit of juice from fans who can't attend the final show. Do they have
        anyone who can do the (estimated) math - $40. x XX amount of viewers vs $9.99 x XXXX amount of
        viewers? Gotta think a lower price would pull in a lot more pays and it's not like they need the $$.
        Give a final "fan price" PPV fer fuck's sake. Prove we "love our fans" after all.

        Even with a VPN I probably wouldn't pay $15. but would rather wait for a pirate appearance.
        Last edited by silverfish; 11-10-2023, 06:05 PM.
        Originally posted by sadaist
        I don't mind that one Nickelback song. I just hate the fact that they put it on every album 10 times.

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35163

          Originally posted by silverfish
          Yeah, $40. is squeezing the "last" bit of juice from fans who can't attend the final show. Do they have
          anyone who can do the (estimated) math - $40. x XX amount of viewers vs $9.99 x XXXX amount of
          viewers? Gotta think a lower price would pull in a lot more pays and it's not like they need the $$.
          Give a final "fan price" PPV fer fuck's sake. Prove we "love our fans" after all.

          Even with a VPN I probably wouldn't pay $15. but would rather wait for a pirate appearance.
          They haven't needed the money for 30 years now. It's weird how insatiable they are about cash, I guess that's how they got successful in the first place.

          It's like most self made billionaires are fucking crazy Scrooge psychos because a normal person would have just have stopped at 1% of that - $10 million.

          Gene Simmons is going to be dead in the next 15 years. If it was because he loved the music or playing live then that's totally fine but it seems doubtful that's what he is about. In fact those prices prove it isn't because wouldn't you just want to maximise the audience or even thank your fanbase rather than add another 0.5% to your wealth?

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32797

            KI$$ was always about shamelessly going for the buck. The thing is they were up front and honest about it. At one time living big was celebrated. Now everyone wants a participation trophy and a free lunch.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49137

              Originally posted by Seshmeister

              Gene Simmons is going to be dead in the next 15 years....

              But hey, he's gonna have one sweet ass coffin!

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              • Kristy
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 16338

                Originally posted by silverfish

                Kiss Announces Pay-Per-View Event for Final Show



                Kiss will officially reach the end of their End of the Road Tour on Dec. 2 at New York's Madison Square
                Garden, and they're offering fans from all over the world a chance to bid them farewell with a livestream
                pay-per-view event.

                The rockers' final bow will stream worldwide exclusively on PPV.com and also be available on pay-per-view
                via cable and satellite operators in the United States and Canada. The concert will cost $39.99 in those
                territories and $14.99 outside of North America. No subscription is required. Indemand, the parent company
                of PPV.com, will also carry the event through its network of cable, satellite and telco providers, including
                Xfinity, Spectrum, Contour, Optimum, Fios, DirecTV and more.


                Full story at:
                https://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss...ew-final-show/

                I call shenanigans on this. I'll say it now this will be the "last pay-per-view show before the next last pay-per-view show and then the final to the last to the next to the last pay-per-view show and then they'll pull a U2 and fuck off to a place like Vegas to play "their last shows" before the next round of pay-per-view shows. These greedy fuckers have no end in sight as long as their aging fan base continues to buy into their shit. Hardly a farewell show. Just another weak-ass publicity stunt.

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                • Kristy
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 16338

                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  Gene Simmons is going to be dead in the next 15 years.
                  Make it 5 and you have a bet.

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                  • Terry
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11957

                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    KI$$ was always about shamelessly going for the buck. The thing is they were up front and honest about it. At one time living big was celebrated. Now everyone wants a participation trophy and a free lunch.
                    Others have made comparisons of KISS to Elvis Presley and The Beatles in terms of the merchandising. One person said something along the lines of how KISS wasn't initially about the merchandising because that aspect didn't really kick in until after the Destroyer album. I thought, well, of course that was true but only because until Alive! became a massive success people in general didn't give much of a shit about KISS and only really knew the band from their image. The first three KISS albums sold, what, a couple hundred thousand copies each at the time of their initial release? The band had effectively zilch in terms of radio airplay and I'd tend to imagine it was the visual image - the makeup, the special effects of their live show - that caught people's attention first. The only reason KISS didn't go the merchandising route in terms of slapping their logo on everything under the sun until 1976 or so is simply because they weren't yet popular enough to do so until then.

                    Don't get me wrong in that I certainly enjoyed their 1970s output then and still do. I could throw on anything from Destroyer to Dynasty and enjoy listening to it (less so the first three studio albums because they were poorly produced) these days, but back then in the 1970s listening to it as a kid the act of listening to KISS was inseparable from the image of it all. Like, when they took off their makeup in 1983 and Paul Stanley was then asked how he saw the band going forward now that they were discarding their image, Stanley responded along the lines of KISS's calling card having always been their music, which was either just plain bullshit bluffing on his part or a fundamental misunderstanding of what KISS had been about from the get-go.
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • Terry
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11957

                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      I call shenanigans on this. I'll say it now this will be the "last pay-per-view show before the next last pay-per-view show and then the final to the last to the next to the last pay-per-view show and then they'll pull a U2 and fuck off to a place like Vegas to play "their last shows" before the next round of pay-per-view shows. These greedy fuckers have no end in sight as long as their aging fan base continues to buy into their shit. Hardly a farewell show. Just another weak-ass publicity stunt.
                      They'll come back in 6 months and do a Vegas residency and say "oh, that last tour? That was called the End Of The Road tour because it was our last tour, but a residency isn't technically a tour because we're in one venue...we never said that last concert on the End Of The Road tour was going to be our last concert EVER...if people thought that, well, that's on them."

                      Which I kind of hope IS exactly what happens. I hope the band continue to perform and continue to allude to their retirement being imminent and the aging, wheezing 'KISS ARMY' keep emptying their pockets to go see them rather than, you know, paying for their blood-thinner/diabetes medicines. I hope Gene and Paul stop performing and are replaced by...I dunno, Joe Blow and Needle Dick and it's NONE of the guys in the original lineup onstage - just Joe, Needle, Tommy and Eric - and people STILL keep going.

                      Fuck it. Might as well bring out those hologram concerts. I once thought the idea of having holograms of people like Ronnie James Dio or Freddy Mercury 'performing' was creepy and classless, but why not? What does rock music have left to lose at this point?

                      Dwayne Johnson for President in 2028.
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32797

                        Originally posted by Terry
                        Others have made comparisons of KISS to Elvis Presley and The Beatles in terms of the merchandising. One person said something along the lines of how KISS wasn't initially about the merchandising because that aspect didn't really kick in until after the Destroyer album. I thought, well, of course that was true but only because until Alive! became a massive success people in general didn't give much of a shit about KISS and only really knew the band from their image. The first three KISS albums sold, what, a couple hundred thousand copies each at the time of their initial release? The band had effectively zilch in terms of radio airplay and I'd tend to imagine it was the visual image - the makeup, the special effects of their live show - that caught people's attention first. The only reason KISS didn't go the merchandising route in terms of slapping their logo on everything under the sun until 1976 or so is simply because they weren't yet popular enough to do so until then.

                        Don't get me wrong in that I certainly enjoyed their 1970s output then and still do. I could throw on anything from Destroyer to Dynasty and enjoy listening to it (less so the first three studio albums because they were poorly produced) these days, but back then in the 1970s listening to it as a kid the act of listening to KISS was inseparable from the image of it all. Like, when they took off their makeup in 1983 and Paul Stanley was then asked how he saw the band going forward now that they were discarding their image, Stanley responded along the lines of KISS's calling card having always been their music, which was either just plain bullshit bluffing on his part or a fundamental misunderstanding of what KISS had been about from the get-go.
                        People who opened for KISS say they always were treated well. I always respected KISS for that.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32797

                          KISS were a bunch of clowns who were after your money and were out to fuck your sister.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Terry
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11957

                            Originally posted by Nitro Express
                            People who opened for KISS say they always were treated well. I always respected KISS for that.
                            That is something several bands who opened for KISS (Rush and Iron Maiden spring to mind) and went on later to bigger success have all said, that KISS treated them well, much better than other headliners they were opening for.
                            Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                            • silverfish
                              Foot Soldier
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 549

                              Couple Killed in Rainbow Bridge Crash 'Planned to Go to KISS Concert'

                              The couple killed in a fiery crash Wednesday on the Rainbow Bridge at the U.S.-Canada border, which
                              immediately sparked fears of a terrorist attack, were apparently planning to attend a KISS concert
                              in Canada, according to law enforcement.

                              Law enforcement told CNN that the New York couple had plans to attend KISS’ farewell concert in
                              Ottawa, but when the concert was canceled due to guitarist Paul Stanley recovering from the flu,
                              the man is believed to have gone to a casino in the U.S. instead.


                              Full story at:
                              Originally posted by sadaist
                              I don't mind that one Nickelback song. I just hate the fact that they put it on every album 10 times.

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                              • Seshmeister
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 35163

                                Originally posted by Terry
                                That is something several bands who opened for KISS (Rush and Iron Maiden spring to mind) and went on later to bigger success have all said, that KISS treated them well, much better than other headliners they were opening for.
                                I'm the first to criticise Simmons in particular so was pretty surprised to hear that too from Rush - Kiss did treat them well over more than one tour I think.

                                Seems like such a weird match-up although maybe a bit less so in the mid 70s when it happened.

                                "Regardless of what you want to say about Kiss, musically or otherwise, there was no harder working band than Kiss. And there was no band more determined to put on a spectacular show and give people their money's worth, than Kiss!!

                                Their current tour may be the last time to see them and I'm overjoyed to have been able to take 2 of my kids to that show! I was blown away!! It was fantastic! I'm a fan of their music, so it was great that way, but the spectacle was amazing! Especially the lights! What a night!"

                                Geddy Lee

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