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[Vinnie Velvet]

Watched some videos from the opening night. It's Milli KISSilli now. Paul's vocals are so obviously piped in, pathetic. Stage show looks interesting though.

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Stage does look good but all the pyro and bombs and video screens ain't gonna save the train wreck that this is now.

Even the songs just plod along - slow and no energy. Paul and Gene can barely move around out there. And I don't like hearing Eric Singer - scab catman - sing Beth or Black Diamond. Its just so bad.

[Seshmeister]

It's like those fireworks kits where you just light the fuse and it does the whole show.

I think the pyros and lights are probably synced as well as the backing tracks.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Which, I mean...so many bands of all genres have been doing that live 'enhancement' thing for so long now that many people apparently either don't care or just accept it.

Me, I prefer to have whatever I'm hearing live be created solely by the musicians onstage in real time. Call it anachronistic, a dinosaur mentality/old school or whatever, but it's just part of what I want out of a live experience.

Same same! It's a travesty now

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[Nickdfresh]

Hey Paul, is there an echo in there? That's the best episode I've seen of Lip Sync Battle!

[Seshmeister]

Wow!

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/tours/gene-simmons-blasts-artists-who-mime/news-story/b475e07497bf3b21514dfc23973b4d3f

KISS rocker Gene Simmons wants “dishonest” bands who use backing tapes to include that fact on their concert tickets.

Simmons claimed some of the world’s biggest performers are relying on prerecorded music or vocals in concerts.

“I have a problem when you charge $100 to see a live show and the artist uses backing tracks,” Simmons said. “It’s like the ingredients in food, if the first ingredient on the label is sugar that’s at least honest. It should be on every ticket — you’re paying $100, 30 to 50 per cent of the show is (on) backing tracks and they’ll sing sometimes, sometimes they’ll lip synch. At least be honest. It’s not about backing tracks, it’s about dishonesty.

“There’s nobody with a synthesiser on our stage, there’s no samples on the drums, there’s nothing. There’s very few bands who do that now — AC/DC, Metallica, us. I can’t even say that about U2 or the Stones. There’s very few bands who don’t use (backing) tracks.”

I was talking to a lifelong Ki$$ fan today who said he would like to pay the $800 for the meet and greet at the arena here so he could punch his fat face.

I pointed out he may have a stand in for that or it could just be a video of him...

[Terry]

Wow!

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/tours/gene-simmons-blasts-artists-who-mime/news-story/b475e07497bf3b21514dfc23973b4d3f

I was talking to a lifelong Ki$$ fan today who said he would like to pay the $800 for the meet and greet at the arena here so he could punch his fat face.

I pointed out he may have a stand in for that or it could just be a video of him...

As Gene says, so dishonest.

As opposed to, say, recording some live shows, taking those tapes into a recording studio and re-recording over the tapes, dubbing just about anything one could think of (including noises of cheering crowds), then releasing all of that as a 'live' album which would be titled something along the lines of...say, 'Alive!' and not disclosing how the album was actually made until years and years later - now THAT reeks of integrity.

[DavidLeeNatra]

It's not over until the fat lady sings?

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[Nitro Express]

Has the Star Child had a sex change operation and gained weight? Haha! Well it might be over when Gene gropes Paul's wife's ass but apparently Gene just does that to Ace's woman.

[twonabomber]

[Nickdfresh]

Has the Star Child had a sex change operation and gained weight? Haha! Well it might be over when Gene gropes Paul's wife's ass but apparently Gene just does that to Ace's woman.

Paul might be very jealous if that ever happened, he'd be like, "why won't Gene ever touch me like that! What am I, chopped liver warmed over twice!?"

[Terry]

Not bad.

Paul's vocals sounded passable enough. Couldn't tell if they were partially piped in or not from the clip, but I've seen clips from the last several tours where they've sounded rougher. Smart move splitting up the tunes between the ones Gene sings lead on and the Paul ones, in terms of pacing.

Stage show looked good. At least the band isn't going out with a show where it looks like they've skimped on production costs.

Pretty good setlist. Nice to hear them playing War Machine. A few odd choices: one of the tracks early on in the set I didn't quite recognize, and had to look up afterward to find out it was Say What? from the Sonic Boom album. Have only heard Sonic Boom and Monster once or twice apiece. That tune didn't really stack up well alongside most of the rest of the setlist. Thought the title track to the Psycho Circus album was another odd choice: are longtime, hardcore KISS fans over the moon about that track and that album? The other weird one was Hide Your Heart, which...well, can't say as I was a huge fan of what KISS was doing during that Asylum/Crazy Nights/Hot In The Shade period. Not back in the day, and that stuff hasn't gotten much better to my ears.

Didn't much care for Eric Singer singing Beth. Much along the lines as me not caring for Thayer singing Shock Me: Beth and Shock Me...man, those are just signature Criss and Frehley tunes. You know, I can give Singer a pass for singing Black Diamond, but...you know, I get it in that Criss isn't in any condition to play a full set with the band (and hasn't been by his own admission for at least a decade) if he wanted to. I dunno...seems silly for me to talk about integrity and nuance when talking about KISS...their over-the-top, in-your-face bombastics were part of what I loved about them in the first place, but is nothing fucking sacred to Gene and Paul? I suppose not, if they had no compunctions about sticking Thayer and Singer in Criss's and Frehley's makeup to begin with. You'd think Singer might have had some misgivings about singing Beth, though...although now that I think about it, Gene and Paul had Eric Carr re-record Beth, so fuck Peter Criss has been the mindset for decades, I suppose.

[Seshmeister]

Not bad.

Paul's vocals sounded passable enough. Couldn't tell if they were partially piped in or not from the clip, but I've seen clips from the last several tours where they've sounded rougher. Smart move splitting up the tunes between the ones Gene sings lead on and the Paul ones, in terms of pacing.

Terry I usually agree with almost all your posts but are you fucking mental?

Click on this.

No one is singing live on this, the only question is whether 90% of the music is piped in or all of it.

[FORD]

[FORD]

Trunk seems to think that Paul's not the only one faking....

[Vinnie Velvet]

Yeah saw this. Pathetic.

And guess what Stan is doing now?

He is starting to sing the first verse of Detroit Rock City - but then lip synchs the rest. LOL

Just to throw the whole "he's not singing" controversy off. But its so obvious because he can barely make it through that first verse then all of a sudden doesn't have problems for the rest of the song.