DT, have you ever built house frames ?
DT, have you ever built house frames ?
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Ho yeah!!!Originally Posted by Douglas T.
... Class dismissed!
I just came back from teaching my evening class.
Kicking back as my pasta is boiling...
So you say, spray paint? I thought so but those home spray guns they sell at Home Depot don't work very well and I don't want to buy 75 cans? Might as well get it done?
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Are you a teacher BG777 ?
SweetSecrets is a teacher too, what age group, or do you
teach something unique ?
Yeah the electric airless guns are terrible! I was just suggesting the best way. maybe a friend has some equipment. When I have a paint project I use this cheap guy here:
- Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices
You'll need an air compressor too!
- Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices
Get those and you'll be set for many paint projects!
When I do clear lacquer I use a much much more expensive rig!
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I have done some framing however calling a cabinet man a carpenter is like calling DAVE sammy!Good question ... house framing is quite simple!
Last edited by Douglas T.; 04-09-2009 at 11:34 PM.
Sorry for the insult ! Just wondering if you might know if the frame isI have done some framing however calling a cabinet man a carpenter is like calling DAVE sammy!
attached to the bricks, or do they just build the brick wall parallel
to the wooden frame ? Logic tells me that they should be hooked
or connected somehow, but I have watched builders build homes
and have never spotted the method. So then Im thinking, maybe
the frame and the brickwalls are their own structure and are really
only kept together by the roof ? I run cables in voids and have
never noticed how/if the bricks are attaached ?
Hows that for a dumbass question ? lol....
So might as well find a "cheap guy" (I'm sure he'd like to here that! L.O.L.)!!!
I worked for over 15 years in the fashion industy as a Designer and Product Manager. Recently, I was offered to teach at the same fashion school I graduated from, in 1990. For now, it's a part time job but I could get full time in the fall semester if I chose to.
It is a Bachelor's degree so no kids but still (beleive it or not) SOME discipline to do!
I LOVE it!!! It's a new challenge and I find it pretty easy...
What is PanaMomToBe teaching (or was teaching)?
Soon, she will teach you how to change a diaper and burp a 7 Lbs'ish. humain being!
Lucky you!!!
Don't worry... Where all "dumbass" when it comes to wood work, compared to the "D.T"!!!
Tell ME about it!
Nothing but a huge mess and a waste of paint.
As you know already... Franksters is very well connected. I will be using MY cheap guy after all!
Hi BG777,
PanaMomToBe has her Masters Degree in Early Childhood Education,
she teaches anything from pre 2k up to grade 5 ? (off the top of my head)
Her last job was as the main teacher at the Preschool section of
an International school in Sydney. She knows a lot of the child
physcology stuff. I have seen her in control of 14 little dudes at
once, so this gives me great hope for our "1"... As I would be as useful
as an ashtray on a motorcycle if it was all left up to me
We saw another ultrasound yesterday and he is almost 8lbs apparently..
The doc seemed very focused on his "frank and beans" for some
reason ?? Told me that all looks good sized, and that its nice that he
wont be the smallest on the ward. (WTF ?? Gyno cracking baby
penis size jokes !!!)
Hey your teaching gig sounds like a great oppurtunity, no offence
but I would hate to go shopping with you !!! I bet you really pick
and chose your stuff...
I bet the Fashion industry provided you with a lot of interesting
tales to tell ! When I watch the parades it all looks like either
Gay men or anorexic chicks on crack !
Im sure you came across a lot of that with your work...
PanaMommy is sleeping a lot now (only 2 weeks to go)
she made me watch Marley and me last night, cried
her eyes out, and I have been giving our puppy
double the cuddles today... lol...
Cheers,
-Mark
Last edited by Panamark; 04-10-2009 at 01:39 AM.
You did not insult me because yu didn't call me a carpenter! I was just comparing the two trade as far as talent!
I use Tapcon screws when fastening wood to cement blocks or poured floors. A carpenter might use a .22 cal nail "gun" if they own one. They do get to use those big guns which look fun! For fastening firring strips they usually use Liquid Nail and then run a few cement nails. Put the cement nails into the morter between the blocks!
When framing a wall pressure treated 2x4's are used on the bottom piece(plate).
Those are not dumb questions. Are you an electrician by trade?
Everybody should be working cheap these days and counting their blessings they are finding people with money left in tgheir pockets! I know my reply was a little costly and excessive. Most homeowner/ do-it-yourselfers tend to stick with brushing and rolling the paint!
OK ... time to insert some songbird puns!
Dan (04-11-2009)
You are so lucky that she has a good experience and all that knowledge on kids! There wasn't that many kids around for us to learn dealing with a little 2 years old tornado. When they are little babies all swaddled up, it's easy. I miss that part of my life when he was so small...Hi BG777,
PanaMomToBe has her Masters Degree in Early Childhood Education,
she teaches anything from pre 2k up to grade 5 ? (off the top of my head)
Her last job was as the main teacher at the Preschool section of
an International school in Sydney. She knows a lot of the child
physcology stuff. I have seen her in control of 14 little dudes at
once, so this gives me great hope for our "1"... As I would be as useful
as an ashtray on a motorcycle if it was all left up to me
We saw another ultrasound yesterday and he is almost 8lbs apparently..
The doc seemed very focused on his "frank and beans" for some
reason ?? Told me that all looks good sized, and that its nice that he
wont be the smallest on the ward. (WTF ?? Gyno cracking baby
penis size jokes !!!) ...
Cheers,
-Mark
Our boy is always smiling, healthy, nice and respectful but sometimes, I could just tie him down to a chair! Still, I look at him and say; Thank God he CAN be that turbulent...
Sleeping while pregnant... Although sometimes challenging, it's a great previlege.
Soon, PanaJr. will be there in the bed with you 2!
This sounds corny and you probably hear it every days but I will tell you again;
Cherish every single moment of his life, especially when he is very little. Sit there for hours watching his hands and feet, kiss him all you can, take many pictures because (here comes the usual) they do grow fast!
Here, I sound like a Hallmark card
Sorry D.T. to highjack your thread but as I know you to be the proud Dad. and Grand-Dad. that you are... You probably don't mind!
... Hey your teaching gig sounds like a great oppurtunity, no offence
but I would hate to go shopping with you !!! I bet you really pick
and chose your stuff...
I bet the Fashion industry provided you with a lot of interesting
tales to tell ! When I watch the parades it all looks like either
Gay men or anorexic chicks on crack !
Im sure you came across a lot of that with your work...
At my age and with all the efforts I've put into that industry... I worked my ass off (like everybody) but now, I have had enough of that "game". Teaching is much more mellow and I like the students a lot.
I used to shop all the time, dress very sharp and style up my wardrobe but my priorities changed when I had my son. Now I like to dress him up. I was always a smart shopper (knowing where to go for bargains) so now I do it for others. People bring me shopping a lot and I'm always there to help.
Anorexics on runways! Nha... And EVH is the healthiest man on heart!
I could write a book on models from; picking them up in a portfolio, helping them change... To being obligated to criticize that extra .05 Lbs. on their "hips" etc... Yes models can be crazy but it's the people of the industry that forces them to compete in a very unhealthy way!
If I would have been the one with the la$t word, I could have tried to change that "overly skinny women in magazines" social mess!
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I always like to use "inexpensive".
I will get quotations but probably end up rolling up myself... Paint, that is!
Your own "On the othe fuck'n side" in a Christian song?OK ... time to insert some songbird puns!
Doug!!!L.O.L.O.L.
This is so cool...
You will live to be 110 years old!
Yes. Working hard with your hands, wood being a very noble material... Gardening (I printed that Cactus), signing and laughing like you do?
All the ingredients to stay healthy!
You have a very good lifestyle and take great pride in what you do. Keep on listening to CVH and I tell you... You might live to be the oldest poster on this board!
Sticky Douglas T. Skynyrd Thread,Please.
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Thanks for the informative answer mate !
I was originally trained as a Hardware Engineer on Mainframe computers.
(component level fault repair). But a lot of the early training involves
similar components as to what they would teach an Electrician.
I mainly sit on my ass and program now, but I will run data and RF
cabling (and occasionally power) in houses when I cant be fucked
paying someone else... I was formally taught parts of this, the other
parts I picked up from watching tradesmen on building sites where we
would be installing our systems..
To add to that, we put anchor bolts into formed poured basement/foundations, that way you just have to drill holes into the treated wood and put a few washers and bolts on, much more efficient than trying to anchor after the fact. The real trick about doing that is....remembering spacing out the anchor bolts so they won't land on a 16" on center stud layout, not so much the actual 16" OC but a few inches before that because that is where you usually drop your nails.Worked great as we would pre-frame stud walls top and bottom plates plus studs on the ground, set those bitches on the treated and blast some nails/real nails and liquid and you're good to go.
Draw backs......if the treated or studded wood is still too green and rushed to market, it will cause problems for the finish work. A wall that you thought was square and true may distort. Drywall a home that has wet studs and you can damn near guarantee nail/screw pops.
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One thing that happens every now and then! When I fasten cabinets to a wall! Sometimes I guess there ends up being a quarter inch space between the stud and the drywall because when I screw the cabinet to the wall it will press the drywall against the stud and a drywallers screw head will pop out below the cabinet. That causes a need for wall repair.
One time we was puting in a base cabinet and the corner was way out of square. So much so we decided to remove the drywall behind the cabinet to see if we could square the corner a bit. To our suprise when the drywall was being hung a coke can ended up between the drywall and the stud wall. They managed to leave it there in the corner behind the drywall.
I believe I am guilty of that on many occasions!
How fun would this be if we couldn't do it?I believe I am guilty of that on many occasions!
Aparently, I make history with that!
Anyhow, this thread is up there and runnin'!
Nothing but Yeah!
I've been on both ends of the spectrum, New Home Builder and Rehab. Some of the shit I've seen on new homes makes me sick. If a crew of mine ever did shit like that they would of been fired that day.One thing that happens every now and then! When I fasten cabinets to a wall! Sometimes I guess there ends up being a quarter inch space between the stud and the drywall because when I screw the cabinet to the wall it will press the drywall against the stud and a drywallers screw head will pop out below the cabinet. That causes a need for wall repair.
One time we was puting in a base cabinet and the corner was way out of square. So much so we decided to remove the drywall behind the cabinet to see if we could square the corner a bit. To our suprise when the drywall was being hung a coke can ended up between the drywall and the stud wall. They managed to leave it there in the corner behind the drywall.
When we framed the walls, the cabinets went on, we put 2 x 4's in between the studs where the cabinets would anchor to the walls. Top and bottom. That way all you guys had to do was attached your anchors anywhere along the top and bottom of the cabinets and you would hit wood. I made sure every step of construction was making it easier on the guys that followed and there was none of that us versus them on our crews. We all worked together to make sure everyone had what they needed to do their part of the construction.
Walls are never really square but they should be true and what you described was just plain sloppy work.
I have a 16' Pro John aluminium bass boat.
How much for a trick =CVH= paint job? I'll haul it down there, so don't even think I won't.
Keep the volume up, brother!
OWWWW!
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Hey VHalaner!
Long time no read...
Hope you and VHalanerBabe are doin' well?
A good friend of Franksters and I is an expert in custom painting cars, motorcycles and any other big surface. He can paint anything and does an amazing job all the time. Franksters hires him for his customers (ask D.T. about Franksters's work).
If you could haul that boat up here, it would be awsome!
But the V.H. logo by itself is pretty easy to do, unless you want something else with it. You should find a local and cheap
Post some pics. when it's done!
This reminds me of those late 70's vans with the VH logo on it...
I was so young and didn't speak English at all, so I thought that the "Van" was there because it was a van that had it painted on!
I would look at guys like D.T. driving by with their Harleys and muscle cars and go "Woooo... Later, I will mary a guy like that"...
And fell in love with Dave!
Good times!
L.O.L.
Pffft! You don't want me doing custom paint on your boat! You want my son-in-laws company! He won the contract for the bass fishing tour boats! They're really taking off with their wraps!
Marine Graphics
I have trick'd out a customers john boat with custom removable wood floors(so you can clean under them), a teak console and bench seating!
Bring it on ... we'll fish on!!!
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Dude! It is such a blessing when the walls have the nailers in place! i hate searchin' for studs! Worst thing is metal studs! I usually have to cut into the wall and installmy own nailers becasue you can't hang diddley on metal studs!
Also I want to say sorry if my carpenter comment rubbed anyone the wrong way! I've been beating myself up the last few days thinking about that and realizing there are probably a few carpenters in the DLRARMY!! You know the ol' tongues of fire saying you can hurt peple with your words!
Keep on nail'n 'em bro!!
kwame k (04-11-2009)
I invited all 4 grand daughters to stay the night tonight becasue I wanted to make sure they made it to church on Easter morning! Their parents tend to come a lil' late! Jen tends to be out partyin' until we hours on Saturday night! Her husband is the one that wins the fishing tournaments and stays home with the kids in exchange he get's up at 4 AM on Sunday and goes fishing! She probably gets home about the time he's ready to leave!
The grand-kids come over tonight and it's all "Will the Easter Bunnie know where we are? will he stop by!?" I found myself running up the the drug store and putting together 4 baskets chuck full of goodies! We made them make poster size egg drawings and hang them in the window so he might stop by!!
Last edited by Douglas T.; 04-11-2009 at 11:18 PM.
Cool Grand-Pops!I invited all 4 grand daughters to stay the night tonight becasue I wanted to make sure they made it to church on Easter morning! Their parents tend to come a lil' late! Jen tends to be out partyin' until we hours on Saturday night! Her husband is the one that wins the fishing tournaments and stays home with the kids in exchange he get's up at 4 AM on Sunday and goes fishing! She probably gets home about the time he's ready to leave!
The grand-kids come over tonight and it's all "Will the Easter Bunnie know where we are? will he stop by!?" I found myself running up the the drug store and putting together 4 baskets chuck full of goodies! We made them make poster size egg drawings and hang them in the window so he might stop by!!
I won't be going to church but will go for dinner at my Mom.'s. My son "painted" some eggs and 2 cards. A little young for a chase but can't wait to do all that stuff (Santa etc...) next year!
HAPPY EASTER to you and your's!!!
Happy Easter to you n' yours too! I'll be singing in our Cantata tommorrow! One of the songs I will be singing a duet with a tenor! I sing bass! I've been in the church choir for 15 years! Been going to the same church since I was born! Probably only missed a handfull of Sundays my entire life! That one rebelious summer!
No worries, Doug. There are a ton of fucking hacks in the Trades, you know it, I know it and...........WTF are ya gonna do.Dude! It is such a blessing when the walls have the nailers in place! i hate searchin' for studs! Worst thing is metal studs! I usually have to cut into the wall and installmy own nailers becasue you can't hang diddley on metal studs!
Also I want to say sorry if my carpenter comment rubbed anyone the wrong way! I've been beating myself up the last few days thinking about that and realizing there are probably a few carpenters in the DLRARMY!! You know the ol' tongues of fire saying you can hurt peple with your words!
Keep on nail'n 'em bro!!
When retro fitting to older homes, especially lath and plaster homes, holy shit!!! Try to use modern materials and find me a uniformed thickness in those fucking walls.
In one of the first houses I ever owned, I blasted out the wall between the kitchen and living room, (1.5 story house here BTW and yes the wall was load bearing, span support) so, being an over-builder, grabbed myself a big ass micro-lam and put the header up. Big deal! What I demoed back to do this install, I had to finish and not being anywhere near a wet plaster dude..........I tried to use shims, mud, and drywall for the finish. I got it but what a life lesson about what to do and what not to do.
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