Warner Bros are a bunch of Corksuckers!

[LoungeMachine]

Guess I should clariy......

Wasn't talking about some dork coming along and spamming a forum.

I meant a forum you already belong to, have relationships with the posters, and send a PM saying, hey I've got this if anyone you know wants it. Barter? Pay it Forward? Pay what you think it's worth........

Anybody in this thread actually consider me pro-annoying troll ??



sheesh.

[twonabomber]

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but I don't blame WB for taking this action.

Protecting the things you own is pretty straightforward, and in fact in this case could mean they dont want it out there, because they are getting ready to turn a profit from it. I doubt it, but that's besides the point.

and for this...isn't WB one of the labels that keeps making YouTube pull videos? a lot of those are from albums that are out of print. with storage as cheap as it is, and with a proven distribution system, NOTHING should be out of print.

[LoungeMachine]

My point being, Ebay is the worst about trying to catch copyright infringement, even when there is none going on, so don't be surprised if you get fucked with.

Which was exactly my point.

Like offering crack for sale in a doughnut shop, and then being surprised you're doing the perp walk 20 minutes later....

[twonabomber]

i only worded it that way to avoid a post like this. guess i fucked up!

Guess I should clariy......

Wasn't talking about some dork coming along and spamming a forum.

I meant a forum you already belong to, have relationships with the posters, and send a PM saying, hey I've got this if anyone you know wants it. Barter? Pay it Forward? Pay what you think it's worth........

Anybody in this thread actually consider me pro-annoying troll ??



sheesh.

[LoungeMachine]

, NOTHING should be out of print.

I beg to differ......


Nine On A Ten Scale 1976
Sammy Hagar 1977
Musical Chairs 1977
All Night Long 1978
Street Machine 1979
Danger Zone 1980
Standing Hampton 1981
Three Lock Box 1982
VOA 1984
Hagar Schon Aaronson Shrieve Through The Fire 1984
Van Halen 5150 1986
Sammy Hagar (solo) I Never Said Goodbye 1987
Van Halen OU812 1988
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge 1991
Balance 1995
Sammy Hagar (solo) Marching To Mars 1997
Sammy Hagar & The Waboritas Red Voodoo 1999
Ten 13 2000
Not 4 Sale 2002
Livin' It Up! 2006
Sammy Hagar (solo) Cosmic Universal Fashion 2008
Chickenfoot TBC

[twonabomber]

point taken!

[LoungeMachine]

point taken!

Farenheit 451 comes to mind when I read that discography....

[chefcraig]

I meant a forum you already belong to, have relationships with the posters, and send a PM saying, hey I've got this if anyone you know wants it. Barter? Pay it Forward? Pay what you think it's worth........

Agreed, a tight-knit community of posters sharing stuff is the basic and essential lifeblood of the hardcore fan. I was speaking more of the exploitative jerks out there that pretty much act like carpetbaggers or snake oil salesmen, preying upon the uninformed fan that does not quite belong to the aforementioned community, and is therefore subject to being ripped off.

[FORD]

Since the US Fest was a pro shot video, intentionally made for TV distribution, I could see where WB has a legitimate claim on it - though I would think CBS - the parent company of Showtime might have a stake in it as well.

What pisses me off is when record labels pull things off of YouTube that they should have absolutely nothing to do with. I.E. ABCKO records getting Rolling Stones videos from the 72 & 73 tours pulled off.

Uh, the Stones left ABCKO in 1970. They have no claims to that footage.

And some of these labels now... they put their own content on You Tube - which is fine, because it usually means you get decent picture and sound - but then they don't include the embedding code, which would allow the videos to be posted (for example) here at the Roth Army. What the fuck's up with that?? It's goddamn FLASH VIDEO, you idiots. Anybody who can install a Firefox plug in can download the content if they want to, and they aren't going to burn it on to a DVD and sell it, because it would LOOK LIKE SHIT. So put the code there, let the videos be embedded, and they can serve as the promotional tools they were intended to be, and you dumbfucks might actually sell some records.

Ever think of that, corporate assholes??

Oh yeah, back to WB..... Release the goddamn US Festival for real, if you say you own it. If Eddie won't help you remaster the thing for a proper release, call up Jimmy Page. He knows how to do that shit.

[LoungeMachine]

What exactly is a cork sucker?

I'm just getting used to the fact we have a member with a gym sock fetish, and now this?

[sadaist]

It burns my ass when some dork will come along and say "I've got videos for sale, 15 bucks (and up) each-includes sleeve...".

OK. I'm starting to feel like a dickhole, so I just want to clarify. I asked $10 for it to cover my costs, free shipping which 1st class mail woulda been about $2, padded mailer $2, eBay fees about .90 cents, Paypal fees another .75 cents, dvd case $1....so I'm in it for around $7 - $8. Wasn't looking to make any profit or spice it up with some crappy photoshop cover. Just get it to someone else who would enjoy it. And it's not a dvd I made, nor am I mass burning them or anything. Have one & handing off to the next CVH fan.

I'm probably still a dickhole, just not in this case.


Cost to ship bootleg VH dvd = $8
Being called out on Roth Army = Priceless

[chefcraig]

OK. I'm starting to feel like a dickhole, so I just want to clarify...

Again, I am not referring to guys like yourself. I'm talking about people with little or no ties to a band or community, that suddenly appear out of nowhere in order to make a quick buck or two by exploitation. They can be individuals or well coordinated, semi-legal companies like the outfit Classic Rock Legends (the company that sells all of those crummy GunsNRoses DVDs at Amazon). More often than not, the end product is slipshod and rarely worth viewing.

Here is an example of such mediocre product. Some nitwit cobbled together bits of Live Without A Net and LRHRN, and sold it under the title of "Jump: Live". Obviously the band wasn't paid a nickel in the process, and it is nothing more than a fuzzy looking rip-off. This still is available in places, yet why anyone would purchase it is beyond me.

Amazon.com: Jump: Live!: Van Halen: Movies & TV

[Von Halen]

I'm probably still a dickhole, just not in this case.

No, you're still a dickhole.

I have freely sent out tons of copies of the US Festival, for a lot less than the $8.00 you claim it is going to cost you. I don't give a fuck what you say, you will profit from something you don't own, and have no right to profit from.

I am just amazed there are still people stupid enough to pay for this stuff, when there are plenty of us out there that will send it to them for free.

[Terry]

the US Festival aired on Showtime. can't remember if it was live or a week after.

I think...THINK...that the entire concert was available via closed-circuit pay-per-view live as the actual festival was happening. If that was available through Showtime I can't remember.

I know Showtime aired it shortly after the fact, but it was a 90 minute or so program, where each band was represented by two or three tunes of their performance that day.

[Terry]

Since it is considered a "bootleg", my question is how did it get out? It was pro shot with several cameras. What's the story, if any, on how this footage originally came out?

The US Festival was aired both from start-to-finish on the dates of the festival and as an edited special shortly after. My guess is that it was recorded on VHS or Beta back then, and that's how it was leaked out.

I bought a VHS copy in a small Mom and Pop record store back in 1992 for $30.