Fidel Castro: Obama 'misinterpreted' Raul's words

[Nickdfresh]

And STOLE Gitmo from them.....

Naw, we rent that.

[Nickdfresh]

The best thing the US could do would be to unilaterally remove the sanctions and kill Cuban communism with our consumer goods. In a few years, you'd have a multiparty gov't there...

[LoungeMachine]

Naw, we rent that.

LMAO

Yes, much like we're only flopping on Iraq's couch for a few nights....

[kwame k]

I will refer to the Made In USA thread NickD started. Still some things to be found, albeit much harder than during our grandparents youth.

Agreed. The point is, we are in bed with a Communist Country and are beholden to them. We have a partnership with them. Yes, if we fail they fail but saying we take the high road and boycott a Communist Country because of how they treat their people is a joke.

[ELVIS]

Just send 'em some free Chinese crap and free poison chinese / american food and they'll shut up...

[FORD]

The difference between China and Cuba is this.....

Prescott Bush Sr. made money in Cuba under the Batista regime from sugar, and lost it when Castro nationalized the industry.

Prescott Bush Jr. became the chairman of the "U.S. China Chamber of Commerce", thus the BCE makes money from China.

Therefore, foreign policy towards Communist countries has been a literal case of "who benefits?" And when the BCE does, apparently they become "good" Commies.

[kwame k]

BCE shit aside, that's it. We determine which countries are beneficial to us and we could give less than a fuck about human rights. Iraq in the 80's anyone!

[FORD]

Thing is, you can't put the BCE shit aside, because their personal profits have been a factor in so much of this shit. Like with their business partners in Saudi Arabia, for example. Which includes not only the House of Saud itself, but also the Bin Laden family.

As for Saddam, there's a common thread with him, and with Noriega in Panama. Once they were no longer useful as a BCE stooge, they became a convenient "enemy". Though Saddam obviously played that role better than old Manuel did. Hell, they got TWO wars out of Iraq. Actually three, since the "defense" industry was arming both sides of the Iran/Iraq war.

[kwame k]

Thing is, you can't put the BCE shit aside, because their personal profits have been a factor in so much of this shit. Like with their business partners in Saudi Arabia, for example. Which includes not only the House of Saud itself, but also the Bin Laden family.

As for Saddam, there's a common thread with him, and with Noriega in Panama. Once they were no longer useful as a BCE stooge, they became a convenient "enemy". Though Saddam obviously played that role better than old Manuel did. Hell, they got TWO wars out of Iraq. Actually three, since the "defense" industry was arming both sides of the Iran/Iraq war.

To look at the history of the Bush Family Dynasty you see that they are a very powerful and influential family. They have had influence on world policy, on that there can be no dispute. Their business associations with nefarious charters is well documented. Are they the leaders of the NWO or just a bunch of greedy whores, that's the real question.

[swage33]

Don't forget how we "liberated" Cuba from Spain to be our bitch-colony, and then saddled them with 60 years of military dictator pricks backed by the Mob...

Jesus Christ! How far back am I to go with this fucking Island? You say, "Don't forget", I say do forget ancient bullshit.

[swage33]

So I guess we'll boycott Wal-Mart and never buy an American flag or borrow Trillions of dollars to fund unjustified wars.
All made possible by a Communist Country with a horrible human rights track record, You Know China.


You really are an idiot.

Oh no! The gloves are off now. Come on, Kwame, I wasn't stating anything other than alternative possibilities in an attempt to throw some real juice on Ritalin boy's lunacy.

Now, I know that you feel compelled to defend a friend and I commend you for that. But, as I have stated earlier, my treatment of Fiat is exactly what he was looking for. Because of me he is fulfilled. Because of me he has purpose. Because of me, his parents don't have to research drugs anymore.

Do you really think I am an idiot? I warn you, I am not a lightweight. You may want to leave it alone...you fucking idiot.

[FORD]

It's too bad your parents (brother and sister) didn't "research drugs", Cletus. Specifically, anti-psychotics.

And you're like the BCE.... you seem to favor some dictators over others. And some Communist regimes over others.

Don't they call that hypocrisy up in the hills, hillbilly?

[swage33]

It's too bad your parents (brother and sister) didn't "research drugs", Cletus. Specifically, anti-psychotics.

And you're like the BCE.... you seem to favor some dictators over others. And some Communist regimes over others.

Don't they call that hypocrisy up in the hills, hillbilly?

You know, looking past your lame attempts to insult me, I am curious about your statement. Please elaborate...honestly.

[kwame k]

Oh no! The gloves are off now. Come on, Kwame, I wasn't stating anything other than alternative possibilities in an attempt to throw some real juice on Ritalin boy's lunacy.

Whatever your ulterior motives were, it can not erase what you've posted.

Now, I know that you feel compelled to defend a friend and I commend you for that. But, as I have stated earlier, my treatment of Fiat is exactly what he was looking for. Because of me he is fulfilled. Because of me he has purpose. Because of me, his parents don't have to research drugs anymore.

Oh ok, I guess I'm glad you guys have a symbiotic type relationship? I don't have to defend "my friend" he is more than capable of handing you your ass.

Do you really think I am an idiot? I warn you, I am not a lightweight. You may want to leave it alone...you fucking idiot.

Please don't type mean words at me........please don't threaten me either.

What ever would I do if a tough guy like you posted mean words in my direction......Oh the Humanity!

Is it so far fetched that good people didn't want to validate a government that treats it's people the way communist governments do?

When you post stupid shit like this, I don't have to think you're an idiot , you pretty much confirm it.

[swage33]

Whatever your ulterior motives were, it can not erase what you've posted.



Oh ok, I guess I'm glad you guys have a symbiotic type relationship? I don't have to defend "my friend" he is more than capable of handing you your ass.



Please don't type mean words at me........please don't threaten me either.

What ever would I do if a tough guy like you posted mean words in my direction......Oh the Humanity!




When you post stupid shit like this, I don't have to think you're an idiot , you pretty much confirm it.

So, that statement, as opposed to a grand BCE conspiracy, makes me an idiot? Really? No insults for Ford but I am an idiot? Hardly an impartial assessment. Who's side are you on, anyway?

[kwame k]

Who's side are you on, anyway?

My own.

[swage33]

My own.

Got no beef with you, Kwame, but bullshit is bullshit no matter who it spews from. Just trying to level the playing field.

[hideyoursheep]

BCE shit aside, that's it. We determine which countries are beneficial to us and we could give less than a fuck about human rights. Iraq in the 80's anyone!

How 'bout Iran until '79?

You nailed it right there K, no point in being slag33's life coach.

[kwame k]

Got no beef with you, Kwame, but bullshit is bullshit no matter who it spews from. Just trying to level the playing field.

No beef with you either, I was just replying to the fact you were saying good people boycotted a Communist Country.........it never happened, our government embargoed a Communist Country, not a grassroots uprising by the common folks who were outraged.

Cuba was a vacation spot and a gambling spot for Americans to go to.

[kwame k]

How 'bout Iran until '79?

You nailed it right there K, no point in being slag33's life coach.

[swage33]

No beef with you either, I was just replying to the fact you were saying good people boycotted a Communist Country.........it never happened, our government embargoed a Communist Country, not a grassroots uprising by the common folks who were outraged.

Cuba was a vacation spot and a gambling spot for Americans to go to.

Understood that it may have come across that way, but, would you agree that it was something other than a grand Bush conspiracy?

[hideyoursheep]

You know, looking past your lame attempts to insult me, I am curious about your statement. Please elaborate...honestly.

Try and find a book to read down there.....preferably one that hasn't been lying in an outhouse with half the pages missing,

[LoungeMachine]

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Do you really think I am an idiot? I warn you, I am not a lightweight. You may want to leave it alone...you fucking idiot.

Stop, I beg. my sides.



****Internet Tough Guy Alert****

[kwame k]

Understood that it may have come across that way, but, would you agree that it was something other than a grand Bush conspiracy?

Depends on how you look at it.
Ever read a book about the history of the Bush family and all the control and manipulation they were able to do over the last 100 years. I may not go as far as FORD does with the BCE but you can't deny that this family has controlled world events and manipulated them for their family's benefit. Like I said before, are they puppet masters or just greedy power hungry whores?

[swage33]

How 'bout Iran until '79?

You nailed it right there K, no point in being slag33's life coach.

I don't argue that at all. We did some pretty shitty things with some pretty shitty people. Should I carry shame for this? Should I hate my country for this? As it is, something current happens and then somebody whips out something from the past and stands strong on it as a counter point.

If I owe let me know how much....the cold war is gone, boys. The cold warriors in this country are gone or out of power.

On the other hand, how should one protect US interests abroad when the major players in the arena choose to dwell in ignorance? Do you sit down and reason with them? Do you extend a bare hand when it will most likely be bitten off? Hindsight is a hell of a luxury...it's easy to judge the past by today's standards. If evil was wrought, both Dems and Pubs share the blame. Neither side holds the high ground here.

By the way, Sheep, Slag33 is not "in" right now. If you want to be hip, you should refer to me as a sister fucking inbred idiot. The "idiot" is new.

[kwame k]

I don't argue that at all. We did some pretty shitty things with some pretty shitty people. Should I carry shame for this? Should I hate my country for this? As it is, something current happens and then somebody whips out something from the past and stands strong on it as a counter point.

I don't hate my country for this but I subscribe to the old maxim, those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

If I owe let me know how much....the cold war is gone, boys. The cold warriors in this country are gone or out of power.

No shit the Cold War is over, I wish someone would of keyed Bush's administration of this fact before we invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. They could not grasp the fact that a bunch of guys with beards sitting around a campfire could implement a terrorist attack.

On the other hand, how should one protect US interests abroad when the major players in the arena choose to dwell in ignorance? Do you sit down and reason with them? Do you extend a bare hand when it will most likely be bitten off? Hindsight is a hell of a luxury...it's easy to judge the past by today's standards. If evil was wrought, both Dems and Pubs share the blame. Neither side holds the high ground here.

Of course we sit down with them and try to reason with them......War should always be a last resort and not a Foreign Policy. If after all else fails, then yes we war but until then shouldn't we try every means in our power to not let our Military go into harms way?

[hideyoursheep]

I don't argue that at all. We did some pretty shitty things with some pretty shitty people. Should I carry shame for this? Should I hate my country for this? As it is, something current happens and then somebody whips out something from the past and stands strong on it as a counter point.

If I owe let me know how much....the cold war is gone, boys. The cold warriors in this country are gone or out of power.

On the other hand, how should one protect US interests abroad when the major players in the arena choose to dwell in ignorance? Do you sit down and reason with them? Do you extend a bare hand when it will most likely be bitten off? Hindsight is a hell of a luxury...it's easy to judge the past by today's standards. If evil was wrought, both Dems and Pubs share the blame. Neither side holds the high ground here.

By the way, Sheep, Slag33 is not "in" right now. If you want to be hip, you should refer to me as a sister fucking inbred idiot. The "idiot" is new.

Nobody's suggesting you "hate your country"-there's a huge difference in being an America hater and being fed up with the hypocrisy in it's diplomacy abroad. You have some catching up to do in this area, apparently.




Sorry, but I have to flip you some shit about being from West By God. I did the same to K, it's just my way of saying hello....








Now go feed the chickens.

[hideyoursheep]

LMAO

Yes, much like we're only flopping on Iraq's couch for a few nights....

How long do you think we will have troops there, honestly?


The smart money is on at least a skeleton crew there another decade.

[LoungeMachine]

How long do you think we will have troops there, honestly?


The smart money is on at least a skeleton crew there another decade.

Look at Germany and Korea for your answer.....


We're never leaving.



Literally.

[kwame k]

Sorry, but I have to flip you some shit about being from West By God. I did the same to K, it's just my way of saying hello....

Well, it's better than how you used to say hello........

[hideyoursheep]

Ooooohhhhh! Down goes Frazier!

[ELVIS]

Stop, I beg. my sides.



****Internet Tough Guy Alert****

Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha !!!

[ELVIS]

No really...

Hahahahahahahaha !!!

[ELVIS]

How long do you think we will have troops there, honestly?

What is it, 14 Military bases built in Iraq ??

You don't think that we built them for the Iraq Army to play Cowboys and Talibans, do you ??

[hideyoursheep]

What is it, 14 Military bases built in Iraq ??

You don't think that we built them for the Iraq Army to play Cowboys and Talibans, do you ??

There are no Taliban in Iraq, ELVIS...you have Al-Qadea confused with their former Afghan hosts.

If we tore their bases up, wouldn't rebuilding them be the right thing to do?

Just not KBR. Those fuckers charge too much.

[Blaze]

Cowboys and Indians, Elvis?
Is that really a good example???

[GAR]

Once they were no longer useful as a BCE stooge, they became a convenient "enemy".

You're referring to United Fruit Company?

Did you forget the US won Cuba off Spain, it was a territorial posession of the USA same as Puerto Rico still is today?

If Obama with his lawyering buys out the Castros, we could be sending USDA food stamps to another of our former possesions, which he could technically do by asserting rights to the island, or stitching the Monroe Doctrine to it. Or using a few other precepts, we could reprotectoratize Cuba.

Hahahah watch Obama hand the keys to Cuba over to Bush Sr. while the taxpayer pays all those people to go on welfare.. I'd say let em all stay Communist another 50 years to teach them a lesson about overthrowing a dictator until they get fed up and finally do it for themselves.

[hideyoursheep]

Cowboys and Indians, Elvis?
Is that really a good example???

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GAR, you're stoopid.

[ELVIS]

Cowboys and Indians, Elvis?
Is that really a good example???

It was like a bit of humor to get my point across, &#191;Comprende?

Why would we build multiple bases in that region ??

A 20 April 2003 report in The New York Times asserted that "the U.S. is planning a long-term military relationship with the emerging government of Iraq, one that would grant the Pentagon access to military bases and project American influence into the heart of the unsettled region."

[Blaze]

Because of the IM.