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    Official UFC Thread

    UFC signs Silva-Griffin blockbuster

    Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White made good on his promise to land a significant fight for suddenly under siege middleweight champion Anderson Silva, telling Yahoo! Sports on Tuesday that he had signed a deal for Silva to face ex-light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin in the co-main event of UFC 101 in Philadelphia on Aug. 8.

    Regarded by many as the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world, Silva has come under a barrage of criticism for his performances in his last two fights, including from White. White said he was embarrassed by Silva’s performance in a decision victory over Thales Leites at UFC 97 in Montreal.

    That came on the heels of a questionable performance against Patrick Cote at UFC 90 in Chicago in October in which it appeared that Silva was toying with Cote.

    White wanted to find a fighter who would challenge Silva, winner of a UFC record nine consecutive fights, and believes he has done it by signing Griffin.

    “Forrest loved the idea and said he’d do it right away, and Anderson told me he would fight anyone I wanted him to fight, no matter who it is,” White said. “So we got the deal.”

    The fight will be the co-main event in the UFC’s first foray into Philadelphia, sharing top billing with a lightweight title fight between B.J. Penn and No. 1 contender Kenny Florian.

    Silva’s manager, Ed Soares, said the champion is excited by the opportunity to face Griffin, who took the light heavyweight title from Quinton “Rampage” Jackson in July, but lost it in December to Rashad Evans.

    He said Griffin has a complete game and has a big name, which makes the fight more interesting to Silva.

    “It’s a great fight for him and he’s anxious and excited about it,” Soares said. “Forrest is a bigger, stronger guy with a lot of cardio and he’s the full package. The other thing Anderson likes about it is that Forrest is a big name with a huge heart and is a fan favorite kind of a guy. That’s the kind of match that makes a legendary kind of a fight and that’s what Anderson wants.”

    White said he met with Silva and Soares last week and expressed his concerns about Silva’s performance in the last two outings. Silva defended his performance, noting that Cote did not attack and that Leites fought exceptionally cautiously.

    White called Silva out at the post fight news conference at UFC 97 for backing off as he was pounding Leites on the ground, but Soares said he didn’t back off for no reason.

    “There was a moment when he was in the half-guard and pounding [Leites] out when it looked from outside the octagon like he stood up and walked away,” Soares said.

    “Unfortunately, people outside the octagon don’t see the fight the same way as those who are in it. Anderson said that what happened was that Thales was covering up well and that in one of those situations, he hit his hand very hard on Thales’ elbow.

    “He thought, ‘Oh man, I could break my hand,’ so instead of risking a broken hand that would keep him out for six months if the guy was going to keep covering up like that, he’d stand up and fight him on the feet. But people outside the octagon probably didn’t notice that.”

    Silva made his reputation in the UFC by roaring through competition, knocking out most of his foes violently. He destroyed Rich Franklin twice and also knocked out Nate Marquardt and submitted Dan Henderson.

    White was his biggest advocate, insisting there is no fighter in the world close to Silva. And though he was disappointed by his performance in the last two fights, White said he still feels strongly that Silva is the best.

    He said Silva will remain middleweight champion and said he thinks there will be viable opponents soon. One would be ex-light heavyweight Michael Bisping, who fights Henderson at UFC 100 in July. If Bisping wins, a Silva-Bisping fight for the title would be a major event.

    And White said he is working on signing another middleweight that he would not name who he said “would blow your mind.”

    “I’m a fight fan like anyone else and I want to see the best fights, too,” White said. “Other than the Bisping-(Matt) Hamill fight, where I literally got death threats and people said they were going to kill me if they ever saw me, I got more nasty email about the last [Silva-Leites] fight than any one I’ve had in nine years of doing this. I got four of them [Monday], personally, to me. I can only imagine what it’s like to the UFC.com address.”

    White said that Silva also expressed an interest in fighting heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko, who is under contract with Affliction. White has made several attempts to sign Emelianenko, none successful.

    Soares confirmed that Silva would like a fight with Emelianenko and said that size wouldn’t be an issue. Silva walks around between fights at 215 and Emelianenko fights around 230.

    “We’d come in at about 220 if we ever got that fight,” Soares said. “Anderson thinks that would be a great fight for him. He didn’t say he expected to blow him out, but he thinks he can give him a very good fight.”

    But long before he considers fighting Emelianenko, he has to worry about a match with Griffin.

    “I talked to [a reporter] the day after [UFC 97] and that’s when I started working on this,” White said. “At the end of the day, it’s my job to put on the kinds of fights that you in the media will like and that the fans will want to see. Silva and Griffin is the kind of fight that even other fighters are going to go crazy for. That’s what I do for a living.

    “I as a fan didn’t like what I saw [at UFC 97] and I wasn’t kidding when I said I wanted to walk out of the building because of how embarrassed I am. But I can tell you this: I’m going to be counting the days until this fight.”
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    LOL, looks like its just you and I talking UFC, HYS.

    What are your thoughts on the Main Card for 98?

    Hughes vs Serra
    Evans vs Machida??

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    Hey man im on the brock lesnar bandwagon, i kinda hope he gets a shot
    at the title & hopefully before then he gets the sport down & is
    prepared..he has the ability, but lacks matches.
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    Lesnar is currently the Heavyweight Champ, and will be fighting Frank Mir in July at UFC 100 for the undisputed UFC Heavyweight Championship

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennypacker View Post
    LOL, looks like its just you and I talking UFC, HYS.

    What are your thoughts on the Main Card for 98?

    Hughes vs Serra
    Evans vs Machida??
    The guy who runs this site knows all about UFC. I hope he is here for the Machida fight.

    I want to see Machida destroy Evans. I love his style. I think he can do it.

    Hughes vs Serra will probably be a wrestling match, but I'll go with Hughes.

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    I despise Evans, but will admit he has improved quite a bit since his pathetic display as the winner of The Ultimate Fighter. He has developed an unorthodox style via good head movement and footwork. With that said I still think he is one of the luckiest fighters in MMA. Like any given Sunday in football, the best mma fighters can be defeated with one shot. Rashod proved that when he closed his eyes, swung for the fences and knocked the F##K out of Chuck Liddel. I honestly believe his win streak will come to an end when he faces one of the most intelligent, technically proficient fighters in the world. Machida has an arsenal of techniques and superior stamina that rivals a Greek God. He disected a undefeated monster from Brazil, Thiago Silva like a science class frog. Machida's critics claim he sometimes runs or avoids his opponents attacks and refuses to engage. And the problem is??? If you can win on points and not receive a concussion like the majority of the meatheads permiating the mma scene then kudo's to you. Machida's has some impressive victories over the likes of Rich Franklin, Stephon Bonner and Tito Ortiz. I am really looking forward to this fight and predict victory for the Japanese/Brazilian.
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    UFC 100 Saturday July 11th.

    Mir vs Lesner (again)

    St Pierre vs Thiago Alves

    Dan Henderson vs Mike Bisping




    Not giving Mir much of a chance in this one, unless he finds the sweet spot on Brock's chin. Brock will lean on him all night, wear him down, then find a sloppy way to finish.

    I'm taking Alves...I should say, I WANT Alves to win.



    I haven't seen enough of Henderson or Bisping. But if I'm not busy Saturday, I hope to see Bisping get a win over Henderson. That's one fight I do want to watch.

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    Pit Bull took a beating in rd2. It doesn't look like he has reach.

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    Brock absolutely hammered Frank Mir. Will somebody PLEASE get him in the octogon with Fedor?

    Then Brock Lesner went off during the after fight interview, saying he was going home to drink a Coors Light....not a Bud Lite, because Budweiser won't pay him shit, and that he was going to get on top of his wife tonight. Is he bringing a wrestling schtick to the MMA or what?!?!? I don't like it, and I thought it was bush league of him to dis Mir like he did before the opening bell.

    St. Pierre is one elusive dude..at least he was last night, dodging damn near everything Thiago Alves threw at him. He took control of that fight with authority. More so than with Penn.

    I DON'T like that he thinks because he's champion, he shouldn't have to move up to fight Anderson Silva. GSP doesn't mind fighting guys who move up in weight to fight him, and I think he's dodging Silva. If he walks around at 185, but won't walk in to fight Silva at that weight, then he's afraid of Silva-period. That's one fight I'd love to see.

    Of course the one fight I was looking forward to seeing the most was Bisping-Henderson, and of course, I missed it. I know Henderson won, but I didn't see it at all. I would ask my brother how it went, but that fucker exaggerates, and I won't get a truthful answer.

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    I guess Dana White told him to turn it down a couple notches!



    he apologized
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    Silva looked great. Seems like the killer instinct is back. He should stay at 205Lbs. More competition there for him. Wish he could have Liddell before he retired.
    I was hoping BJ Penn would get his head kicked in. Always trash talking and being a clown. GSP needs to go at him once more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ppg960 View Post
    I was hoping BJ Penn would get his head kicked in. Always trash talking and being a clown. GSP needs to go at him once more.
    It's not trash talk if you can back it up.

    I take it you're a GSP fan?

    Why wouldn't he fight Spider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideyoursheep View Post
    It's not trash talk if you can back it up.

    I take it you're a GSP fan?

    Why wouldn't he fight Spider?
    GSp beat him soundly. Yes, I'm a fan.
    He should fight Silva after his groin pull is healed. It would be a good one no question.

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    UFC 104

    Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
    Sean Sherk vs. Gleison Tibau
    Joe Stevenson vs. Spencer Fisher
    Anthony Johnson vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida


    Rua looked like shit his last 2 fights. Machida will destroy him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideyoursheep View Post
    UFC 104

    Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

    Rua looked like shit his last 2 fights. Machida will destroy him.
    Man, was I wrong about that one!



    UFC 107 tonite!!

    B.J Penn vs Diego Sanchez. I think BJ should win this one. He is fighting at his proper weight, unlike the match between him and GSP.

    Ken Florian vs Clay Guida looks like a good one.

    Jon Fitch vs Mike Pierce. 2 wrestlers. You wolud expect it to go to the ground immediately, but I'm going to go out on a crazy limb and predict a KO.

    Frank Mir vs Cheick Kongo. A submissions specialist vs a heavy hitter. It's been said that Mir has put on some extra muscle to compete with the bigger guys in the division, we'll see if he can put Kongo down with strikes or a submission, since Kongo apparrently has no ground game. I'm picking Mir to win this one. I haven't seen Kongo fight...yet.

    Paul Buentello vs. Stefan Struve. I don't know either of these guys, to be honest, but I do want to watch what a 7' heavyweight does in the octagon.

    It's too bad the Rampage-Evans match-up isn't taking place tonight,but all in all, looks like some pretty good match-ups.

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    Buentello vs The Skyscraper coming up..

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    Streube (?) has some long legs! He squeezed BuenTello's midsection like a boa! ...Ooops...live feed keeps lagging, so it's going on a 30 min. delay. I'll catch it in RD 2 when it gets here-looks like they were starting to bang..

    You'd expect a guy like Struve to have some wicked kicks in his arsenal.
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    Rd 2...Wow. Struve walks right in to some hard shots..Other than his body triangle, his grappling looks like shit. Maybe he's too lanky to put anything tight enough...Rd.3..now he's using that leg length advantage..Buentello could have made him pay in the clinch with some knees to the midsection if he were more athletic. I think Struve wins by decision...

    He did.

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    Guida vs Florian

    Rd 1-Guida acts like a pro wrestler...and he bleeds like one after that elbow.
    I give that one to Florian.

    Rd 2-Florian took his time and hit Guida HARD That was damn near his entire forearm going through Guida's jaw. He wasted no time finishing. Florian slaps the rear naked choke on to end it by sub. Good fight.

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    Jon Fitch vs Mike Pierce...I predicted a standing KO between these 2 wrestlers, let's see what happens.

    Rd 1-Fitch got on Pierce's back and couldn't get him down even with all those noogies to the face, then they stand back up and dont do much, but Fitch wins the round IMO.

    Rd 2-Fitch gets a kick caught and Pierce takes him down with it, but Fitch takes his back again. Advantage Fitch.

    Rd 3-Pierce knew he lost the first 2. He kept it standing and finished strong, but couldn't pull it off.

    Fitch got the decision, but man, his face is hamburger! I doubt he could have made it another round.

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    Mir vs Kongo

    Missed it..link went live

    Penn vs Sanchez

    Rd 1-Penn beat his ass. Sanchez doesn't want any more of that. Penn wins this rd.

    Rd. 2-Man, Penn's defense is outstanding. Sanchez is the #1 contender? No wonder they asked BJ to fight outside of his weight class!

    Rd 3-BJ continues to frustrate Nightmare. He just does what he wants-or what he doesn't want to do. Taking Sanchez into rd 4..

    Rd 4-BJ continues to play defense, scoring a few punches, and turning it up a little late in the round.

    Rd 5-OUCH! Penn performed a lobotomy on Sanchez! His forehead is wide open! Penn gets the TKO.

    BJ's trunks used to be white!


    Still don't know what happened with Mir-Kongo.

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    Will we ever see a unification title bout between anyone? Is it the money, or the fear of an organization losing credibility if it loses too many fights to another organization?

    If White believes the UFC is the NFL of MMA, he should run with the idea.

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    UFC 108 getting under way. I just saw the prelims, and that second fight....I can't remember his name, how he escaped from that kimura was impressive.

    Yvel vs Dos Santos coming up..

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    Dos Santos knocked Gilbert Ivel to the ground, but it looked to me like he still had all of his senses. He couldn't cover when Dos Santos came after him. Unable to defend, the fight gets stopped. I thought that was way too early. Should have gave him the benefit of the doubt..at least a few more seconds -maybe he tries a takedown.

    Was that Noriuega in Junior's corner?

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    UFC 109 is headlined by Mark Coleman vs Randy Couture.

    Really?

    Jesus..

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    Miller vs Ludwig.

    WTF is White trying to do? Make a buck or make it respectable? How the hell do you prepare for 1 fighter when they throw another one at you with 2 weeks notice?

    Well, Miller slapped an armbar on Ludwig after a few minutes.

    Lmao at Miller for trying to defend this card. It's not that good. I just wanna see Evans get slapped around.

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    This Ju Jitsu looks pretty interesting. I think I might try it.

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    Hazlett got killed by Daley! 1 left hook ended the fight.

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    You're right, it does. It should be on Spike, not PPV.

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    UFC boss says doctors will have clearer prognosis on Brock Lesnar's health this week
    By Neil Davidson (CP)
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    LAS VEGAS — UFC president Dana White says he expects to hear a definitive prognosis on Brock Lesnar this week, which should determine the ailing heavyweight champion's future.

    "This is the week. This is the week Brock Lesnar is going back to the doctor, getting fully checked out by one of the best doctors and hospitals in the world," White told the UFC 108 post-fight news conference Saturday night.

    "If the doctors say things are going well and things are going in the right direction, then maybe we're a few months away from him coming back," he added. "If it's not, and not going in the right direction, he'll either be done and have to retire or he'll be out for a couple of years.

    "So hopefully we get good news. And then after we get that announcement, then we'll be able to plan what we're going to do with the heavyweight division."

    The six-foot-three 265-pound Lesnar had been diagnosed with diverticulitis, a digestive disease found in the large intestine.

    Lesnar, 32, last fought at UFC 100 in July when he stopped Frank Mir.

    The UFC has already announced a heavyweight fight between Mir and Shane Carwin for UFC 111 in March. The unbeaten Carwin had been slated to fight Lesnar until the champion got sick.

    Should Lesnar be sidelined for the long run, the UFC would probably set up a bout for an interim title.

    Lesnar's absence also hurts the bottom line. The big man is one of the organization's hottest draws, pulling in fans from all ends of the sports spectrum. But White dismissed that as inconsequential compared to the bigger picture.

    "I'm not looking at Brock Lesnar and saying 'Oh Brock,' now he's gone we're going to lose all these pay-per-views buys. What I'm thinking about is I hope Brock's going to be OK. If he has to have this major surgery, you're talking about changing the quality of this guy's life for ever. I like him, I respect him and I hope that doesn't happen for him and his family's sake."

    White said Lesnar, an avid outdoorsman who lives in rural Minnesota, had called him to complain that the UFC president kept on sending him electronic gadgets, gifts that were useless since he doesn't own a computer.

    So White sent him a package of ice fishing rods.

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    Evans vs Silva:

    Rashad fought like a man afraid to be knocked out. I think the Machida loss got into his head a little bit. He pulled out a victory, using takedowns and wearing out Thiago Silva to the point that when Silva rocked him in the 3rd round, he didin't have the gas to finish Evans.

    Silva was hit by Evans earlier in the 3rd, but it seemed to give Silva the confidence to drop his hands and showboat, rather than avoid being hit again. Neither fighter was impressive in that match.

    Rashad Evans was questioning the fans' response to the decision in conversation with Dana White afterwards, thinking there may be some controversy over the decision, more than likely because Evans himself knows that was a lackluster performance. It was the first fight in a while where Evans relied heavily on his wrestling skills instead of his punches, the same punches he has had success with against his more recent opponents... before Machida.

    With Rampage coming after him sometime this year, he'd better get back into the gym. But in a strange way, I'm glad he got the win....it will be that much sweeter to see Jackson stomp a mudhole in his ass.
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    Backstage at UFC 108-

    Forrest Griffin is up to 240 lbs. He looks like shit.

    James McSweeney from TUF 10 Team Rashad is now escorting Evans into the octagon. Did Rashad and Jardine break up?


    James "lights out" Toney is stalking Dana White for a crack at a UFC match. I don't want to see what's already been done, and this would not help the credibility of the sport. Watching Toney get choked out or submitted in 20 seconds is not my idea of a good fight. It's not fair to the fighters, and it's not fair to the fans to have to pay for some sideshow shit like that.

    He's past his prime, and I highly doubt he was ever training for anything besides a stand-up fight that does not include the use of kicks for his entire career.
    There's no way he could train up to that level in a short period of time.

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    After football, track, bobsledding and ballet, Herschel Walker tackles MMA
    By KERITH GABRIEL
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    NEW YORK - Since his retirement from football in 1997, Herschel Walker's athletic endeavors have included Olympic bobsledding, track and field and even ballet.
    However, his latest decision - to enter the world of mixed martial arts - might just be his wildest yet.

    Walker, after all, is 47 years old.

    "People have been saying my decision is a publicity stunt and a farce and I just laugh because it's the farthest thing from the truth," said Walker, who played for the Eagles from 1992 to '94, as part of a 13-year NFL career. "For those that think this is a circus, get up off the couch and train with me. I guarantee you'll see how serious I am."

    Yesterday, Walker spoke at a news conference to promote his Strikeforce: Miami undercard bout on Jan. 30 in Sunrise, Fla. Interestingly, Walker's MMA debut comes the day before the NFL's Pro Bowl will be played in Miami. Walker was a two-time Pro Bowler.

    Walker will fight Greg Nagy, 26, a 6-5, 215-pounder from Arizona with a 1-1 record. Walker, 6-1, 217 pounds, signed a multifight contract in September. He has been training with "Crazy" Bob Cook and Javier Mendez, owner/operators of American Kickboxing Academy in San Jose, Calif.

    Walker said he will donate his purse to Project Turnaround, the same Texas-based community development charity to which he donated the proceeds from his appearance on NBC's "Celebrity Apprentice." Strikeforce was waiting approval from the Florida Athletic Commission to release what Walker will be paid for his debut, but a source said it will be a five-figure payout.

    One person who vouched for Walker's validity was Mendez. Mendez has been a fight trainer in both boxing and MMA since 1985 and claims that in the 7 weeks he has had to get Walker prepared to become a professional fighter, the 1982 Heisman Trophy winner's ever-increasing level of improvement is nothing short of remarkable.

    Walker holds a fifth-degree black belt in tae kwon do and has other martial arts experience.

    "This sport is no joke. You can't come in here and think you're going to take it by storm," Mendez said. "I knew of Herschel's martial arts background, but when he came to me he was still very green. I mean, we had to teach him how to punch, how to throw kicks, everything. In all my years of training fighters, I have never seen one with the work ethic and intensity. The man is a freak of nature."

    That has been the sentiment since Walker exploded onto the football world at the University of Georgia in 1980. The man who was known to subsist on just one meal a day and 4 to 5 hours of sleep per night still does. The man who relied solely on body-weight exercises and calisthenics to build his freakish physique still sees that as the only way.

    "I have never picked up a weight to build my body; I don't even think I would know how," Walker said. "I am still an advocate that young athletes shouldn't lift weights without proper training because that is just asking for a reason to ruin your body."

    Walker decimated a recent physical fitness stress test conducted by Florida Boxing Commission chief physician Allan Fields, who called the exam "the most strenuous test that you possibly can impose on an athlete." Fields noted that Walker produced the highest heart evaluation score of anyone ever tested at the facility, including Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali.

    "He's in as fine a shape as anyone we've had the care of," Fields said at a news conference Tuesday in Miami Lakes. "This guy is 47 going on 22 as far as his physical fitness goes."

    And yesterday, Walker vowed that his mental health is equally strong. There was a time when that was not the case as Walker conveyed in his 2008 autobiography "Breaking Free," where he revealed his battle with multiple personality disorder.

    "My mind is good, I feel good," said Walker, who said he is still being treated for the disorder. "You know, I was going through a rough time in my life, as we all do, and it took the help of some true friends along with the grace of God to get through. Right now my mind is clear and all I am focused on is getting in the ring on Jan. 30."

    While Walker doesn't want to look too far ahead in his MMA career, Mendez said the former running back, with his work ethic, could easily become a top contender in 3 years.

    For Walker, fighting isn't about accolades as much as it is about trying something completely out of the ordinary, and excelling at it, like he has done so many times before.

    "I don't know where I will be in this sport in 3 years, but where I am today . . . is what I am looking forward to," Walker said. "You know at lot of guys like Jose Canseco [who was knocked out in 77 seconds in his MMA debut last May] who tried to do this sport and embarrassed it. You guys will see that when I get in there I am doing this for real and maybe that'll shut up some of the couch potatoes. I do that, and that'll be good enough for me."

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    Another reason StrikeForce should seek a sponsorship from Geritol....

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    Brock Lesner is back!


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