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    Post Obama kills a fly-PETA to the rescue!

    Animal rights group wishes Obama hadn't swatted fly, sends catch-and-release device
    2 hours, 54 minutes ago

    By The Associated Press


    WASHINGTON - The group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants the flyswatter in chief to try taking a more humane attitude the next time he's bedeviled by a fly in the White House.


    PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.


    "We support compassion even for the most curious, smallest and least sympathetic animals," PETA spokesman Bruce Friedrich said Wednesday. "We believe that people, where they can be compassionate, should be, for all animals."


    During an interview for CNBC at the White House on Tuesday, a fly intruded on Obama's conversation with correspondent John Harwood.


    "Get out of here," the president told the pesky insect. When it didn't, he waited for the fly to settle, put his hand up and then smacked it dead.


    "Now, where were we?" Obama asked Harwood. Then he added: "That was pretty impressive, wasn't it? I got the sucker."


    Friedrich said that PETA was pleased with Obama's voting record in the Senate on behalf of animal rights and noted that he has been outspoken against animal abuses.


    Still, "swatting a fly on TV indicates he's not perfect," Friedrich said, "and we're happy to say that we wish he hadn't."


    Deputy press secretary Josh Earnest said the White House has no comment on the matter.

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    Just shows how fucked up those PETA freaks are....
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    lmmfao. stupid.
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    How much more spendulus money does PETA get for making a nuisance of themselves?
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    So PETA members never squish a spider in their house? Do they ever wash their hands? Because every time you do that you can kill thousands of living organisms. Doesn't seem that they are very outraged about what Obama did. Their outrage seems to be on a sliding scale that correlates with the size, cuteness, & cookability of the creature.
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    Wow until I checked I assumed this was an Onion parody...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    So PETA members never squish a spider in their house? Do they ever wash their hands? Because every time you do that you can kill thousands of living organisms. Doesn't seem that they are very outraged about what Obama did. Their outrage seems to be on a sliding scale that correlates with the size, cuteness, & cookability of the creature.
    PETA actually kills quite a few animals as they "put down" stray or disowned dogs and cats --just like the SPCA does...

    And yes, it's a completely fuckwitted organization of attention whores and exhibitionists that need some bullshit cause for purposes of vanity or self-esteem...
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    It's OK.....

    Paramedics revived it, and it shall peacefully live out the rest of it's days on a farm owned by Sir Paul McCartney....

    When interviewed, the fly said it was "petitioning the current president for a mere crust of dog shit, after having been abandoned, and forced to live on the fetid, rotting remains of The Constitution left behind by the Bush administration"....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    PETA actually kills quite a few animals as they "put down" stray or disowned dogs and cats --just like the SPCA does...

    And yes, it's a completely fuckwitted organization of attention whores and exhibitionists that need some bullshit cause for purposes of vanity or self-esteem...
    I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals. Cattle used for food are severely mistreated in many cases. I'd like some way to make their conditions better. Same with the way chickens are raised. If I had the choice to buy meat from a known source where the cattle were raised & treated well, I'd pay the few extra bucks. PETA just goes way overboard with what they do which causes very few to take them seriously. If they concentrated efforts into more reasonable & sensible areas, they would have many more supporters.

    Try spearheading a campaign to have chickens raised for food treated humanely and pass it on to PETA. Guarantee they respond to you as a murderer that you even consider eating them at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Wow until I checked I assumed this was an Onion parody...
    That was my thought too when I caught wind if it..

    When I saw the clip my first thoughts were "That musta been a Republican fly"
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    Hope PETA doesn't find out about the mass murder of carpenter ants in FORD Country yesterday.
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    Yesterday I was outside watching my dog eat june bug after june bug, then it dawned on me. Animals have the same rights we do, sure we kill animals, but they sure do kill the shit out of eachother. Its all equal.
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    Fuck PETA! The only animals worth protecting are the Carnivores! Save the Bears, Tigers, Sharks and any other animal that likes to rip into live raw flesh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lesfunk View Post
    Just shows how fucked up those PETA freaks are....
    Because they rather it spread disease to kill people.
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    Maybe he was OK with it because it reminds him of his days as a child sitting in the sand in Africa and having flys buzzing around his head.

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    If it was Bush that did this he would of wiped it on Colin Powell.

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    If Hillary was there her fat ass would of ate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals. Cattle used for food are severely mistreated in many cases. I'd like some way to make their conditions better. Same with the way chickens are raised. If I had the choice to buy meat from a known source where the cattle were raised & treated well, I'd pay the few extra bucks. PETA just goes way overboard with what they do which causes very few to take them seriously. If they concentrated efforts into more reasonable & sensible areas, they would have many more supporters.

    Try spearheading a campaign to have chickens raised for food treated humanely and pass it on to PETA. Guarantee they respond to you as a murderer that you even consider eating them at all.
    You're hungry... you sit down and are served a nice Ribeye like this... do you honestly give a flying fuck what happened to the damn cow before this is set down in front of you..?



    How exactly are cattle raised as food mistreated?

    Forced to roam a pasture and eat, regurgitate, chew their cud, fart and fertilize day in, day out... got to be rough on the poor beasties!!



    Ever been to a cattle ranch or chicken farm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post

    How exactly are cattle raised as food mistreated?

    Forced to roam a pasture and eat, regurgitate, chew their cud, fart and fertilize day in, day out... got to be rough on the poor beasties!!
    Unfortunately, that's not the reality of many factory farms



    Not to mention that - because of the Monsanto/ADM subsidies - the factory cows are force fed corn instead of the grass that would be their normal diet. And all the bovine growth hormones and other chemical shit.

    I grew up eating the "free range" beef that lived on my grandpa's farm. The meat from "happy cows" definitely tastes better, but good luck finding it anymore. Or good luck affording it if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Is this really an issue ??
    No shit. I can't believe there are 20-something posts on it.

    Fuck, I can't believe I'm adding another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post

    Ever been to a cattle ranch or chicken farm?
    No. I'd love to though. Would be a great experience, especially if you could take kids to teach them how things really work. But my information comes solely from things I've read and seen on TV, so in all likelihood I am grossly misinformed. Ah, you guys should be used to that by now

    Wait...I did go to a small local dairy farm in elementary school for a field trip. But that was around 30 years ago & things have probably changed a lot since. I know that small farm is now condos & a shopping mall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post

    I threw you a thanks based solely on the picture of beef. YUMMY!!!!!


    There used to be a steak thread floating around here somewhere. "Take Your Steak" or something similarly titled. Once again I'm too lazy to search at the moment.

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    PETA could give less than a fuck about that fly. What they do give a fuck about is attention.....it worked. They just want to keep their name in the media and get people talking about them......it worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    No. I'd love to though. Would be a great experience, especially if you could take kids to teach them how things really work. But my information comes solely from things I've read and seen on TV, so in all likelihood I am grossly misinformed. Ah, you guys should be used to that by now

    Wait...I did go to a small local dairy farm in elementary school for a field trip. But that was around 30 years ago & things have probably changed a lot since. I know that small farm is now condos & a shopping mall.
    Whatever you've seen on TV was probably abusive practices that are used for producing certain types of specialty veal or crap like that.

    Mostly all beef cattle are raised on open grazing land, provided quality food at will and spend most of their short life just eating and crapping. The key to producing quality meat requires a very well fed healthy animal. Due to grazing you can't pack more cattle on a piece of land than what it will naturally support. Unlike poultry you can't pack a thousand in a warehouse and crank em out.

    Large poultry farms aren't really abusive either. In order for it to be profitable you have to raise them in a contained space. The controlled environments are necessary to ensure you have a healthy product...

    Think about it this way... a chicken that roams around the yard eating bugs, trash and whatever the happen to walk up on isn't going to be happier than one raised in a large barn and fed and bred in a clean controlled environment. Clearly one raised in the controlled environment will be healthier and taste better than one left to it's own vices.

    Happy chicken or cow doesn't taste better than farm raised. Plus neither have any idea what happy is...

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    PETA has to be the dumbest organization on the planet. Knowbody can please these idiots. Not even his holliness Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Unfortunately, that's not the reality of many factory farms



    Not to mention that - because of the Monsanto/ADM subsidies - the factory cows are force fed corn instead of the grass that would be their normal diet. And all the bovine growth hormones and other chemical shit.

    I grew up eating the "free range" beef that lived on my grandpa's farm. The meat from "happy cows" definitely tastes better, but good luck finding it anymore. Or good luck affording it if you do.

    I have my own grass fed cows and some bison too. Yup. Nothing beats propperly grazed and aged beef!

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    I never liked killing cows using a sledge hammer. You just wham them hard on the head and down they go. I'm a whimp. I shoot mine in the head with a 45. They are dead before they even hit the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
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    Ever been to a cattle ranch or chicken farm?

    LOL I drive by a veal farm/ranch periodically. They, the little cows, have little plastic shelters about the size of doghouses to sleep in. I have to say that it's sort of creepy and I never eat veal anymore...
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    The gouchos in Argentina kill cows with a sword. Right in the back and into the heart. Madadors do it the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    PETA could give less than a fuck about that fly. What they do give a fuck about is attention.....it worked. They just want to keep their name in the media and get people talking about them......it worked.
    PETA. They're a bunch of fucking assclowns that care more about insects than they do about the children being fucked to death/blown to bits by landmines/forced to serve in combat, in say, Africa...

    Motherfuck the bourgeois pussy feel-gooders in PETA...

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    I have always maintained people change their tune quickly when they are thrown into a survival situation. A lot of the stupid, modern philosophies and worries go out the door quick when you are starving and cold. Vegitarianism and exteme animal rights are luxeries that people who live in the world's richest nations can afford because they live in an environment where they have a choice. This goes out the window quick when they are weekend by hunger and have to fight predators to survive. They need to go to Africa or even to Alaska where big bears are to get educated on the fact that they aren't high enough up the food chain to be so smug.

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    PETA used to be more sensible a few years back. Yeah, they were pro-vegetarian, anti-fur and anti-animal medical testing, but they never did stupid shit like this. I wouldn't be surprised if they had some COINTELPRO infiltration of their leadership to fuck them up from the inside and make them look ridiculously extreme.

    Even the Dalai Lama kills bugs. Hell, if you bring reincarnation into it, he's probably killed them at least twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    PETA. They're a bunch of fucking assclowns that care more about insects than they do about the children being fucked to death/blown to bits by landmines/forced to serve in combat, in say, Africa...

    Motherfuck the bourgeois pussy feel-gooders in PETA...
    All these spoiled PETA-fucks need to spend some time in Africa. Let's see how many bugs they kill there not to mention possibly having to shoot a dangerouse animal before it attacks and eats them. Maybe seeing the violence and poverty will drive it home their stupid cushy lives and philosophies mean nothing in the real world of kill or be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Unfortunately, that's not the reality of many factory farms



    Not to mention that - because of the Monsanto/ADM subsidies - the factory cows are force fed corn instead of the grass that would be their normal diet. And all the bovine growth hormones and other chemical shit.

    I grew up eating the "free range" beef that lived on my grandpa's farm. The meat from "happy cows" definitely tastes better, but good luck finding it anymore. Or good luck affording it if you do.
    As I stated previously you can use a "veal farm" as an indicator of the cattle industry over-all. Which is the image you've attached. The methods used to produce high end veal are not humane and given it's loss in popularity among consumers I don't see the practice continuing much in the US... Europe has more of an interest in veal.

    If you take a trip out of the big cities out to the stock yards, feed lots and cattle ranches across the US you won't find any wide-spread abuse or terrible conditions for the animals that end up on your dinner table.

    They're not all force fed corn... it's not cost effective nor does it produce and healthy product. During the last few months before harvest you'll see a diet heavy in corn for select prime steers targeted for high-end cuts getting a corn heavy diet to achieve the desired fat mottling for taste and quality.

    I've been on several large scale ranches and feed lots, plus even some small local ranches in California, Colorado, Texas, Arkansas, Kansas and even the Big Island of Hawaii. You won't find nor see these veal operations that the Peta idiots and fanatics claim for the abuse of cattle... You will see cows being treated as cows...

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    I just find it amazing that Vick kills dogs and does time.
    Donte Stallworth kills a human and nobody complains.

    If PETA were to care as much about people as they do animals the quality of a lot of peoples lives could be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post


    They're not all force fed corn... it's not cost effective nor does it produce and healthy product. During the last few months before harvest you'll see a diet heavy in corn for select prime steers targeted for high-end cuts getting a corn heavy diet to achieve the desired fat mottling for taste and quality.

    I've been on several large scale ranches and feed lots, plus even some small local ranches in California, Colorado, Texas, Arkansas, Kansas and even the Big Island of Hawaii. You won't find nor see these veal operations that the Peta idiots and fanatics claim for the abuse of cattle... You will see cows being treated as cows...
    The last month most livestock headed for the table are fed medicated grain. Mostly to clean their systems out, but also for the reasons Zah state.

    Where I live there are still a few select people that keep cows/sheep/pigs but they are few in numbers and for personal consumption (AND they've been doing it for generations). One of the "new" local do gooders got SO upset over seeing the cows standing out in the rain, she came to town meeting with a far reaching bylaw amendment that would all but outlaw livestock. It had mandatory square footage building (think large doghouses) requirements for EACH cow out in the fields, and high fines for leaving them out in the rain, so many cubic feet of dry bedding (at all times) and heated barns among other wild rules. She even went so far as to include chickens as she thought it was inhumane that they be out in the rain also ( The chickens she refered to were in an enclosure with a coop, but she wanted the owners out there to make sure they were all inside when it rained).

    Needless to say it was tabled but a man came forth (that runs the last working farm) and invited the woman to come over and try to move the cows into the barn in the next rainstorm. His statement was "The cows do what they want to do, not what YOU think they should"

    The guy with the chickens couldn't stop laughing the entire meeting....

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