Talk about a nice score...

[Diamondjimi]

Good day today was. My buddy calls me up this evening and says "Hey, someone threw a speaker cabinet to the curb today for garbage collection. It looked decent enough so I threw it in my trailer and brought it home for ya!"
So I'm thinkin it probably some old cabinet loaded with some old crappy old Radio Shack honkers...
So I goes to buddy's place , pick up the cab and bring it down to my studio for further inspection. For one, it's obviously a homemade deal>(not a bad one I might add). It's a straight faced 4x12 with a tan Fender tweed style grill and black faux cracked leather style covering. Not bad,not great...

Now here's the good part.....
I pull out the Black & Decker cordless drill and unzip the 20 or so screws holding the back panel on only to reveal 4 of these fuckers!!!



SWEEEET!
Gonna see if I can run the serial #s to get a year on 'em.
Like they say, one mans trash is another mans treasure!

Will post pics soon!

[Diamondjimi]

Greenbacks have always been a huge part of my sound. Bought my first Marshall cab back in '81-'82 (around then). It was a late 60's 4x12 basket weave grill slant for $265.
I've used it on every gig and recording I've made since then. Still using it to this day. I love the 25w Greenbacks. I dig the way they truely come to life when run at concert volume. Old fucking school!!!

[jhale667]

SCORE!!!

Have you checked them out yet? Are they all functional, none blown? Holy crap, why would someone throw away ANY cab with Greenbacks (still) in them, y'know?

Ya lucky bastard!

[Diamondjimi]

SCORE!!!

Have you checked them out yet? Are they all functional, none blown? Holy crap, why would someone throw away ANY cab with Greenbacks (still) in them, y'know?

Ya lucky bastard!

I'll check 'em out in detail tomorrow. They look to be in good shape. I'll test the cab. ohmage and give 'er a whirl. I'll let cha know how it works out.
Why somone would kick 'em to the curb? Hmm your guess is as good as mine.
Maybe the old man finally cleaned out the basement or garage years after the kids moved out and simply figured it's just an old speaker box takin up space.
Felt like I hit the motherload.
I remember a story a highschool friend told me back in the day of a friend of his finding an old Marshall cab at the curb and dragging it home on the bus. I always had that story in the back of my mind ...

I'm sure GARbage has a second shopping cart full of vintage Greenbacks he pulls along behind him...

[Igosplut]

Why somone would kick 'em to the curb? Hmm your guess is as good as mine.
Maybe the old man finally cleaned out the basement or garage years after.....

Son: Dad, where's that speaker cab I just bought?

Father: I don't know, but your mother cleaned out the garage yesterday..

Son: What???

[GAR]

I'm sure GARbage has a second shopping cart full of vintage Greenbacks he pulls along behind him...

Ho lee crap, you came up! Yes I keep spare sets in storage, nested in plastic milk crates: they barely fit, magnets nested back to back with the cones out, stack very well like that till I need 'em.

Hey this is great, post the frame code numbers maybe you have some really rare Thames Ditton Surrey ones the geeks call "pre-Rolas".

These type of greenbacks 1968 and before and sometimes up to about 1971 are really important because they are a world of difference from the later greenbacks. They used the Pulsonics 016-003 cone not the 1777 or 444 and the sensitivity is much higher, testing as high as 99 db or more meaning more than twice the volume from the same program voltage input than the standard greenbacks' 97 db. Which is still pretty good.. but the more sensitivity the more articulate and everything..

Date codes! Gimmee gimmee gimeee..

[Diamondjimi]

Front



Back inside...

[Diamondjimi]

Close up of speaker...

[jackassrock]

Fuckin' NICE !!!

[indeedido]

un-fucking-believable

[Nitro Express]

Greenbacks have always been a huge part of my sound. Bought my first Marshall cab back in '81-'82 (around then). It was a late 60's 4x12 basket weave grill slant for $265.
I've used it on every gig and recording I've made since then. Still using it to this day. I love the 25w Greenbacks. I dig the way they truely come to life when run at concert volume. Old fucking school!!!

A lot of people overlook the speakers. They diddle with the amp and not so much the speakers but it's like tires on a car. A car really is only as good as the tires on it, but everyone likes to talk about torque/horsepower but not tires.

[Nitro Express]

I cringe thinking those almost ended up in a landfill.

[Diamondjimi]

I cringe thinking those almost ended up in a landfill.

Talk about fate/good timing on my buddy's behalf.

Celestion | Guitar Loudspeakers

Damn I just scored over $800 in smokin assed speakers, nice!
Buy Celestion G12M Heritage Guitar Speaker | Speakers | Musician's Friend

[GAR]

I am freaking out for you, but this is no Fender. This is a particle-board piece of shit cab, and you gotta find another home for these bad boys.

The baffle board is mdf which Fender would never use, but the guy realised this by adding mirror clips to help support the speakers. Maybe the wood screws came loose and the guy who built this figured out they needed more weight control - like your mom's been probbly telling you yourself.

But don't be tempted to part the cab out till you score a replacement to load 'em in. Enjoy them as-is.

These are T1221, true greenbacks and not the post-2005 Chinese made ones, neither. They sound harsh for about the first 30 hours but then they warm up really buttery and get a rubbery feel which cuts the highs off your distortion tone ALOT. That's what the Greenback does really really well.

It's wired parallel, if they're 16 ohms this means you have to set a tube head to 4 ohms. But you'll fuck that up like everything else you do in life.

So I have a suggestion: rather than blow an amp you don't have yet, work something out with Jay to pay for shipping. He can actually use them. Your life is in the toilet, and he's trying to make an effort to get climb out and I think these will help him.

These speakers will not help you. But let's have the date codes next to the T1221 number which is important to see how old they really are. Because of the hook tabs and not slide-on connections I would guess pre-1979 because that's when they came up with the cheaper slide-on tabs with the development of the 75 watter.

[GAR]

These are common 444 cones, but they are vintage.

They are more desirable than fuckin' $200 shit chinese cones... btw

[jhale667]

At the risk of sounding like I agree with GAyR about the cab , you should perhaps consider buying something like an empty Mojo 4x12 cab to stick those puppies in...

Mojo Cabinets » Marshall Style 4x12 Straight Cabinet

Think they offer white tolex for a small upcharge, too...

[jhale667]

These are common 444 cones, but they are vintage.

They are more desirable than fuckin' $200 shit chinese cones... btw

Supposedly the Scumback reissues are waaaaaay closer than the Chinese reissue Celestions...may eventually yank the 75s out of one of my cabs for these...

Scumback M Series Speakers

[Guitar Shark]

But you'll fuck that up like everything else you do in life.

So I have a suggestion: rather than blow an amp you don't have yet, work something out with Jay to pay for shipping. He can actually use them. Your life is in the toilet, and he's trying to make an effort to get climb out and I think these will help him.

Holy shit, how pathetic does Diamondjimi have to be in order for GAR to feel superior to him?

My condolences, D.

[jhale667]

But you'll fuck that up like everything else you do in life.

So I have a suggestion: rather than blow an amp you don't have yet, work something out with Jay to pay for shipping. He can actually use them. Your life is in the toilet, and he's trying to make an effort to get climb out and I think these will help him.

Dude, WTF...

...(Not like I wouldn't like a set of real greenbacks, mind you - but) that was lame even for you.

[Diamondjimi]

I am freaking out for you, but this is no Fender.

Never said it was...

Maybe the wood screws came loose and the guy who built this figured out they needed more weight control - like your mom's been probbly telling you yourself.

Humour? Nice try, Nutlump..

But don't be tempted to part the cab out till you score a replacement to load 'em in. Enjoy them as-is.

But you'll fuck that up like everything else you do in life.

Look in the mirror shitstain, you just summed up your life...

So I have a suggestion: rather than blow an amp you don't have yet, work something out with Jay to pay for shipping. He can actually use them. Your life is in the toilet, and he's trying to make an effort to get climb out and I think these will help him.

Hahaaa, fuck you're pathetic. My cell phone bill is more than you make in a month. I'll have no problem finding a proper hom for these fuckers, Fucker!

You can put your cock away, I'm not telling you the serial #s...

[Coyote]

But you'll fuck that up like everything else you do in life.

So I have a suggestion: rather than blow an amp you don't have yet, work something out with Jay to pay for shipping. He can actually use them. Your life is in the toilet, and he's trying to make an effort to get climb out and I think these will help him.

Man, get a life... Or a clue, at least.

[kwame k]

So how do they sound?

[GAR]

So how do they sound?

I sold a set of 75 watters for $250, out of a Marshall slant with a torn grille I bought for $165 = free cab shell, plus I'm up $85.

So guy comes over for my offer to try before you buy.. he's got vintage 30's and wants my speakers because he thinks they're all blown.. but from my personal experience, only singles or pairs blow.

We take his back off, and one connector has fallen from one terminal so his indicator of a "blown speaker" was the severe drop in volume.. and since I'm the one opening the back facing the guy I quickly slide the wire back on - and then tilting the cab face down we look it over together and I scratch my head "yeah geesh, sorry to see such nice speakers blow but I guess it happens doesn't it?" he shakes his head yeah.. and I start the swapping process.

So I load them, we make a deal, and then I offer him $25 bucks back for the "blown pair" which, using the $4 DVmeter I got from Harbor Freight Tools tested not shorted coils while he wasn't looking, and offered him $100 for all of them.

He decides he'd like to keep the pair that worked, and that was that.. afterwards I loaded the "blown pair" and they roared to life just fine.

Moral of the story: don't use the fuckin' slide-on spade connectors for speaker terminals! Or: spend twenty bucks for speaker tools (meter, soldering iron, diag wire cutter, solder, 9v battery). Or - just because you think something or someone told you something doesn't mean it's so.

NOW, getting more to the point: this set may just work even if there are problems. It is an ugly homemade cabinet, the worst you can do is pitch it in the trash.

But what I'd do is - buy a Marshall straight cab, sell the speakers out of it, load the 25's, and then sell the empty for $20 - $50 bucks.

If you keep the cab, cut the wire out. All of it. Go to Home Depot for fresh appliance or speaker wire 16 gauge stranded (I like the clear jacket because it looks like Monster Cable and also one side is tinned for easy polarity ID'ing.) and rewire for series-parallel 16ohm connection.

BTW when I say I'm still waiting for you to post the date code, I'm not talking about your usual colored-bandana method I'm talking about the speaker so hot to it Hop Singh..

[jhale667]

Watching your P.O. Box for the impending Karma-bomb coming from that, no doubt...

BTW when I say I'm still waiting for you to post

It's pretty fucking hilarious. I say he posts the codes when you post a picture of an instrument you actually own...hypocrite.

[Diamondjimi]

I sold a set of 75 watters for $250, out of a Marshall slant with a torn grille I bought for $165 = free cab shell, plus I'm up $85.

So guy comes over for my offer to try before you buy.. he's got vintage 30's and wants my speakers because he thinks they're all blown.. but from my personal experience, only singles or pairs blow.

We take his back off, and one connector has fallen from one terminal so his indicator of a "blown speaker" was the severe drop in volume.. and since I'm the one opening the back facing the guy I quickly slide the wire back on - and then tilting the cab face down we look it over together and I scratch my head "yeah geesh, sorry to see such nice speakers blow but I guess it happens doesn't it?" he shakes his head yeah.. and I start the swapping process.

So I load them, we make a deal, and then I offer him $25 bucks back for the "blown pair" which, using the $4 DVmeter I got from Harbor Freight Tools tested not shorted coils while he wasn't looking, and offered him $100 for all of them.

He decides he'd like to keep the pair that worked, and that was that.. afterwards I loaded the "blown pair" and they roared to life just fine.

Moral of the story: don't use the fuckin' slide-on spade connectors for speaker terminals! Or: spend twenty bucks for speaker tools (meter, soldering iron, diag wire cutter, solder, 9v battery). Or - just because you think something or someone told you something doesn't mean it's so.

So.... you caught the problem the guy was having, decieved him by lying, offered him a pittance and fucked him out of a decent working cabinet...
What a cunt you are...

But what I'd do is ...blah, blah ,blah...

WHERE IN ANY FUCKING REPLY HAVE I ASKED FOR YOUR DUMBASSED OPINION OR WHAT YOU'D DO???
HUH?

BTW when I say I'm still waiting for you to post the date code, I'm not talking about your usual colored-bandana method I'm talking about the speaker so hot to it Hop Singh..

Don't hole your breath, Shitstain. I already told you yer not gettin the serial #'s.
PAY ATTENTION ASSHOLE!

[Diamondjimi]

So how do they sound?

Popped by the studio tonight to give 'em a whirl.
THEY FUCKING ROOOOAAAAR!

[GAR]

I say he posts the codes when you post a picture of an instrument you actually own...hypocrite.

In that case, the minor detail of reading the date codes is insignificant. I'm usually pretty good about identifying celestions and I'd say these were 1976 -79 using the usual cues.

You tell me DJ how close am I, and did I really need the date codes for that... and did I need google or do I know that shit or what

[GAR]

Popped by the studio tonight to give 'em a whirl.
THEY FUCKING ROOOOAAAAR!

roar.. as-is/as found @ 4 ohms?

Amazing curbfind.. wasn't there a guy here from Ohio that found a curbcab with 2 good 75's in it or something, I'd say this tops that one pretty severely.

[Diamondjimi]

Holy shit, how pathetic does Diamondjimi have to be in order for GAR to feel superior to him?

My condolences, D.

In GAR's imaginary world he owns his very own computer, has many friends, his Roth Army mod keys, a job, a woman, and a storage space absolutely loaded to the rafters with primo gear...

[indeedido]

So guy comes over for my offer to try before you buy.. he's got vintage 30's and wants my speakers because he thinks they're all blown.. but from my personal experience, only singles or pairs blow.

From my experience, you blow....no wait, you suck AND blow.

[Diamondjimi]

In that case, the minor detail of reading the date codes is insignificant. I'm usually pretty good about identifying celestions and I'd say these were 1976 -79 using the usual cues.

You tell me DJ how close am I, and did I really need the date codes for that... and did I need google or do I know that shit or what

Hear that humming sound GAR?
It's called a vacuum. When you here it, it's telling you the library is closing.
Log out and go home (bridge,box whatever it may be)...

[GAR]

Misapplying the term "blow" for the word "fail" and look who shows up to defend the others!

[indeedido]

In that case, the minor detail of reading the date codes is insignificant. I'm usually pretty good about identifying celestions and I'd say these were 1976 -79 using the usual cues.

You tell me DJ how close am I, and did I really need the date codes for that... and did I need google or do I know that shit or what

You know shit alright

[GAR]

Hear that humming sound GAR?

Waitaminnit.. I see what's going on here!

You're sourcing THOSE pix from the same guy you met on the Marshall forum bitching about your amp, you Monoblockhead. Or else you, the guy always seeking validation in pictures, would have shot the alphanumeric codes AND figured out how to decifer them.

And you're so against trolling. How could you DiamondJimi! How could you do such a thing...

[Diamondjimi]

You're sourcing THOSE pix from the same guy you met on the Marshall forum bitching about your amp, you Monoblockhead. Or else you, the guy always seeking validation in pictures, would have shot the alphanumeric codes AND figured out how to decifer them.

Fuck. it's hilarious watching you squirm for those codes!

Marshall forum? Got a link bitch?

Seeking validation? It's called posting your shit and discussing it with other musicians, Dumbass!
So you're basically saying, everyone who post's pics. of there gear here is seeking validation?
Get a clue, Potsie!

And you're so against trolling. How could you DiamondJimi! How could you do such a thing...

Ahahahahahaa, Supertroll calling me a troll. That's funny right there!

[GAR]

Marshall forum? Got a link bitch?

Behold, "feral Jim"

Problems with EL 34 50/50 Dual Monoblock Power Amp - Marshall Amp Forum

Behold. Your shit's so broke even you can't give it away..

[jhale667]

Ahahahahahaa, Supertroll calling me a troll. That's funny right there!

And now he's stalking someone he thinks is you on the Marshall forum...what a weirdo...

[GAR]

How many times has an owning of mine just kinda crept up behind you and whacked you on the ass like that.. a couple now, huh.

/owned #24

that was a good one, goodnite all I am on the patio looking out at the Pacific oceans cool breeze with that one. fresh, fulfilling, and completely satisfying.

[Diamondjimi]

Stalker...

[jhale667]

Stalker...

He really is, y'know...wait 'til he starts PM'ing you personal questions about your Facebook/MySpace page (one you haven't even linked to here) or something equally creepy.

Yep, you've made the list...and I'm not talking about the people he supposedly has on 'ignore', either...beware.