The dumb cover must have cost them thousands of sales...
The dumb cover must have cost them thousands of sales...
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Maybe not....Originally Posted by Seshmeister
This was around the same time that the fundagelical preachers in the US were pushing the whole "backwards Satanic messages" thing, so some teenagers probably thought anything backwards would be "evil" and therefore "cool" and bought the record without hearing a note.
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Aerosmith started morphing into something that resembled a rock band less and less and started becoming more and more like a corporation; these dudes show up, play the radio staples, their records since Pump follow a similar formula...the 'band' approaches the whole biz like a job these days.
Passion in a musical sense has been missing for far too long. The name Aerosmith is just a safety net for the lot of them.
I mean, Tyler won't be ready to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the group by touring with the band, so Perry figures it is acceptable to celebrate that milestone (for whatever it is worth) by just getting someone else to sing? Tyler has been the only singer of the band. For good or for ill, the man IS the voice of Aerosmith.
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DETROIT (Billboard) – Amidst continuing reports of other singers being approached to front Aerosmith, Steven Tyler and his handlers are taking steps to reassert his position in the band.
Tyler's Los Angeles-based attorney, Skip Miller, fired off a letter to Aerosmith manager Howard Kaufman last week, independently obtained by Billboard.com, requesting that Aerosmith's management "immediately cease and desist from engaging in acts and conduct to the harm and detriment of your own client, Aerosmith, and our client who is one of its members."
Miller subsequently told Billboard.com that on behalf of Tyler he has called a meeting of Aerosmith's "shareholders" on February 9 to discuss the band's future, including such matters as the recording of a new album and tours this year of Europe and South America. The four-page letter also states that "we reserve all of our legal rights and remedies in this matter, including, without limitation, pursuing legal action for damages and other appropriate relief."
"Steven Tyler does not want lawsuits," said Miller. "We do not want to go in that direction. The direction we want is Aerosmith, with Steven Tyler, touring in Europe, touring Latin America, releasing a new album ... This is the direction it's all intended to go. It's just amazing to me current management would be taking any other position."
Aerosmith's management declined comment. Miller says he has not yet received a response from Kaufman or any of Aerosmith's other representatives. As for what the next step will be if Aerosmith continues with its search for a new singer, Miller said, "We'll cross that bridge if and when we come to it. I hope we don't. I don't think we will."
Tyler is undergoing therapy for a painkiller addiction brought on by orthopedic problems. The location of his treatment is unknown, but recent public appearances -- singing karaoke at a bar in Palm Springs, Calif., and signing autographs and singing over the public address system at a Home Depot in Rancho Mirage -- led to speculation that he's at the nearby Betty Ford Center.
NOT WANTED
Miller says the January 27 letter was prompted by Aerosmith guitarist Joe Perry's recent comments in the Canadian press about replacing Tyler and by a meeting earlier in January attended by Kaufman; Tyler's music attorney, John Branca; and Tyler's new manager, Allen Kovac of 10th Street Entertainment. Kaufman, according to Miller, "said point blank he didn't think Steven should be part of Aerosmith, flat-out said the band would be better off without Steven -- which, in my opinion, is a very questionable management decision by a fiduciary."
Miller's letter argues that "the animus and negativity you have expressed toward Mr. Tyler has created an inability to protect both Steven as an individual and the band as a whole. This behavior directed toward a person committing to rehabilitation and recovery is detrimental and hurtful on both a personal and professional level. This is a time Steven has dedicated to transform his life."
Miller pointed to Tyler's December 22 statement, in which the singer "confirms his desire to be a part of Aerosmith" and accuses Kaufman of "playing band members off against one another instead of seeking to solidify their relationships and unify them for the overall good of the band ... Contrary to all common sense, you are seeking to bring about the replacement of Steven Tyler. Aerosmith without Steven Tyler is like the Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger, or U2 without Bono. While this management strategy may get the band on the road a few months sooner, it ultimately could destroy Aerosmith."
Miller added, "Can you imagine the manager of the Rolling Stones calling for the replacement of Mick Jagger? It's just absurd ... Tyler is very unique, distinctive. Steven is Aerosmith, along with the others. He's the guy the public knows. He's the singer. I'm blown away that the current manager would even suggest something like (replacing him)."
Both the letter and Miller said that Tyler has been writing songs for a new Aerosmith album and will be ready to perform at the proposed European and South American dates later in the year. Aerosmith had started to record a new album -- its first since 2004's "Honkin' on Bobo" and first of all-original material since 2001's "Just Push Play" -- with producer Brendan O'Brien in late 2008 but put it on hold due to health concerns, including Tyler's bout with pneumonia, and to prepare for a tour last summer with ZZ Top that was aborted after Tyler fell from the stage on August 5 in Sturgis, S.D.
Perry, meanwhile, is touring to promote his latest solo album, "Have Guitar, Will Travel," while Brad Whitford is gearing up for an Experience Hendrix tour in March, and drummer Joey Kramer is promoting his autobiography, "Hit Hard: A Story of Hitting Rock Bottom at the Top."
The Tyler camp's actions come at a time when rumors are plentiful about who might step in for Tyler. A weekend report by blogger Perez Hilton claimed that Billy Idol, who has been widely reported as under consideration, had to skip a scheduled meeting with Perry because of a cold, while other published reports maintain that Chris Cornell and Paul Rodgers have both been approached. Lenny Kravitz, another rumored candidate, has publicly stated he's not interested.
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This could get nasty and I haven't care for Aerosmith since DWM but replacing Tyler and doing a 40th Anniversary tour with a new singer is stupid.
Man up, wait for Steven, do a proper 40th reunion, play the deep cuts, film and release a DVD, do a Last Waltz kinda thing, and then call it a day.
I don't think Tyler has a case, since he made an album with 2 scab guitarists under the name of "Aerosmith" and then toured with that lineup. Granted, he probably doesn't remember doing any of that, but it is a matter of record.
But at this point, it's ridiculous for any band of senior citizens to replace a member that isn't dead. And in some cases (like Boston) even more ridiculous to replace one that did.
OK so Mr Tyler got his lawyer to serve Mr Perry a cease and desist letter. Good for him, somebody needs to stop the nonsense...
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Tyler is undergoing therapy for a painkiller addiction brought on by orthopedic problems. The location of his treatment is unknown, but recent public appearances -- singing karaoke at a bar in Palm Springs, Calif., and signing autographs and singing over the public address system at a Home Depot in Rancho Mirage -- led to speculation that he's at the nearby Betty Ford Center.
Fuckin PRICELESS!!!
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kwame, since the "done with mirrors" era of 1986, the last vestiges of usefulness of this band died when they sobered up in 1987.
they haven't been worth a flying fuck since.
it is quite very sad.
this band cannot make a halfway decent album without the use of herion, pot, cocaine and booze.
their back catalog proves this.
everything from "aerosmith" in 1973 and "done with mirrors" of 1986, when they were on drugs VS. everything 1987-present "permenant vacation" onward as a sober, or mostly sober band entity.
if you listen to the entire Aerosmith studio album collection, beginning to end,
you will notice the after "Done With Mirrors", the last albums made while the band was abusing hard drugs heavily, and from "permanent vacation"
onward, the "sober albums" for the most part, suck compared to the drug albums.
so there are a few of the "sober-era" tracks that do kicks ass and are cool.
The problem is that since 1987, they are few and far between.
very far between.
kinda like eddie van halen's guitar playing during the "van hagar" and "van gay"
era stuff compared to the "CVH" era stuff.
the cvh stuff will always be far superior.
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Dumbass, it was released in 1985. I remember cos I bought it my freshman year of Highschool which was 1985. So quit saying 1986 stupid. 1986 is when they did "Walk this Way" with Run DMC tool!!!
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Yes, but Perry walked away from the band prior to Rock In A Hard Place to pursue a solo career; at the very least it was mutually agreed by Perry and the rest of the group that Perry should leave. It wasn't a case of Perry wanting to be there and the rest of the band barring his participation back in the early 1980s.I don't think Tyler has a case, since he made an album with 2 scab guitarists under the name of "Aerosmith" and then toured with that lineup. Granted, he probably doesn't remember doing any of that, but it is a matter of record.
But at this point, it's ridiculous for any band of senior citizens to replace a member that isn't dead. And in some cases (like Boston) even more ridiculous to replace one that did.
Bah, whatever. Pulled out Night In The Ruts and gave it a spin, just to remind myself again that this band did, in fact, kick some serious fucking ass once upon a time. Ever since they sobered up and went down the rehab/group therapy/career coach/pop producer strategizing route, they gradually started to suck balls. Too much energy spent on hawking hot sauces and likeness rights for home video games...now they're gonna bring out the fucking lawyers to quibble over tour proceeds?
What the fuck does any of that have to do with rock and roll? Sadly, everything these days.
Regardless of all this playing-position soap opera shit, it's a damn pathetic epitaph for Aerosmith. Tyler singing in a karaoke bar and shambling through Home Depot? That poor old fucker is turning into another Amy Shithouse. Even worse, he's looking more and more like her fucking grandmother. Even if Tyler rewires himself enough (again) to comprehend what day of the week it is, that band's next album will probably sound like the death rattle it will eventually be.
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Jeezus,,, too much drama...
Official: Steven Tyler Tried Out For Led Zeppelin
gbarton / News, Top Posts / 02/02/2010 12:51pm
It’s true – Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler auditioned to replace Robert Plant in Led Zeppelin.
It was early in the summer of 2008 that a rumour began circulating about Tyler trying out for Zeppelin – six months after the band’s reunion gig with Robert Plant on vocals at London’s O2 Arena.
…And it’s a rumour that Aerosmith guitarist Joe Perry now confirms.
Perry tells Classic Rock:
“Steven disappeared and I called around. Somebody said that he was in London trying out for Led Zeppelin.
“It’s something I’ve never talked about before outside of the [Aerosmith] family, so to speak, and kept out of the press.
“It’s a kind of window into how hard it’s been to keep the partnership together.
“It’s certainly not the first time things like that have happened – that’s the downside of our relationship.”
The audition came about through Henry Smith, a childhood friend of Tyler’s who’d worked with Zeppelin.
In fact, Tyler invited Smith to accompany him to the Classic Rock Roll Of Honour in 2007, where the pair sat at a table with Zep guitarist Jimmy Page.
From various reports it transpires that Tyler came to the Zeppelin rehearsals unprepared, and under the impression that he would be writing new material with the band.
This resulted in some shambolic sessions, some embarrassing, awkward moments – and the Plant-shaped lead singer post still vacant.
Perry caught up with Page at last November’s Classic Rock awards where the Zep six-stringer filled him in on what exactly happened during Tyler’s try-out.
Perry says: “Page said he felt really awkward about the audition, but ultimately it was a group decision.”
Tyler returned to the States believing that Aerosmith were oblivious to his Zep escapade, and things carried on as normal until the singer took his infamous tumble from the stage at an Aerosmith gig in Dakota.
It ultimately dawned on Perry that Tyler was working to a different agenda, leading to his decision to try and look for a new Aerosmith frontman.
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i'm betting this guy is the problem. how did he get the job? likely by getting Tyler to believe that he could do a successful solo project. the new guy gets a bigger cut without the other four guys around.Tyler's new manager, Allen Kovac of 10th Street Entertainment
bad analogy. Jagger, Watts, and Wood have one manager (Rupert Löwenstein) and Keith has his own manager, Jane Rose."Can you imagine the manager of the Rolling Stones calling for the replacement of Mick Jagger?"
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Meh.... who gives a shit about Aerosmith... The Darkness are getting back together.
Please tell me that The Darkness are not getting back together........
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Hawkins Wants Halibut, Not Money, For Darkness Reunion
gbarton / News / 29/01/2010 15:47pm
Justin Hawkins says filthy lucre is not the motivation behind a mooted reunion of The Darkness.
In response to rumours that he has ended his feud with his brother Dan, Justin posted the following on his Twitter page:
“What Darkness rumour? Are we all talking at crossed porpoises?
“If we ever did re-form, it wouldn’t be because some record executives consider it a viable proposition.
“It would be just for the HALIBUT. I’d better start learning my SCALES.”
According to reports the bickering bruvvers have patched up their differences and have been demoing new material at Justin’s studio in Lowestoft.
A Darkness reunion looks on the cards if the pair are happy with the results of their sessions.
A source close to Dan Hawkins told Classic Rock:
“Dan has just moved to a posh pad in Brighton and the rent doesn’t come cheap. Plus he and his girlfriend have just had a baby.
“Given those circumstances I doubt if Dan would want to trek around the clubs again with Stone Gods [the band he formed after The Darkness split in October 2006].
“So I wouldn’t be at all surprised if The Darkness re-formed to play some big shows.”
Another source confirmed: “If their stuff is liked by record label staff they will attempt to reunite The Darkness.”
It’s not known who would join the Hawkins brothers in a reconstituted Darkness.
The chances of original bass player Frankie Poullain – surely rock’s most iconic moustachiod four-stringer since Saxon’s Steve ‘Dobby’ Dawson – look remote.
Besides, Justin sports a ‘face-ferret’ himself now and it’s unlikely he would allow two moustaches in the band.
As Justin Twittered: “When I jog through the fog, my moustache drips condensation which I can drink when I get thirsty. I love nature.”
Poullain’s replacement in The Darkness, Richie Edwards, is a member of Stone Gods.
Darkness drummer Ed Graham was a member of Stone Gods but left in 2008.
A Darkness reunion would also sadly spell the end for Justin Hawkins’ splendid band, Hot Leg.
Nevertheless, the return of The Darkness would please Classic Rock immensely – especially as we recently named the band’s I Believe In A Thing Called Love the Top Rock Song Of The Noughties.
Oh Christ......
It wasn't that funny the first time around......
Whoever wrote this is either fucking him or his mother - that band are shocking.
They did a splendid cover of The Pointer Sisters' song 'Automatic'.
As were The Darkness.
Stone Gods were decent enough though......
Verily.
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binnie (02-02-2010)
Would these assholes just hang it up already? It's not 1979 anymore, and they're inauthentic even with Tyler...
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Perry is fuckin' kraky on fuckin' something to replace Steven !! Retire already !!! Do another solo disc !! Aerosmith died in the 80's !!
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Rumour Of The Week: Hagar To Join Aerosmith
gbarton / News, Top Posts / 05/02/2010 12:50pm
Is Sammy Hagar going to replace Steven Tyler as Aerosmith’s frontman?
Earlier this week Classic Rock heard the news that the Chickenfoot (and former Montrose/Van Halen) singer had agreed to sing with the Boston band on a forthcoming world tour.
A source told us:
“The idea is for Sammy and Aerosmith to rake in big bucks on the road while leaving Steven Tyler to sort out his problems. Then Tyler would return to the band in a couple of years’ time.”
Hagar, we reckon, is one of the few singers who could handle Tyler’s scat singing style and idiosyncratic lyrics. So the story made a strange kind of sense.
We contacted Hagar’s manager, John Carter, and told him we had it on good authority that Sammy was joining Aerosmith.
Carter reponded: “Good authority must mean The Enquirer because his Led Zep gig conflicts with the Aerosmith job.
“Seriously, Sam is very happy to be going into the studio with Chickenfoot to start the second album in April.”
The Aerosmith camp declined to comment.
Doubt it'll happen..........
Joe Perry has ears, right?
That would be terrific.
Let an entire other group of fans experience why Van Halen fans dislike this guy so much. I say go for it. Misery loves company. Those Aerosmith fans can be welcome here anytime to vent.
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To be honest... I might go see them if they tapped Dave to fill in for a summer fling.
dave who?
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Super Dave Osbourne... the guy who plays golf with Larry on 'Curb Your Enthusiasm'.
Terry (02-06-2010)
AeroSammy would suck balls! Joe says 4 or 5 guys are interested, some people mentioned Cinderella's Tom Keifer, I dunno maybe it could work. But a poster on Blabbermouth.net offered up the first name that has really lit my fire, Michael Monroe from Hanoi Rocks!!!!
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No word on whether the new Aero frontman has to be on the wagon but it could really backfire out on the road with a hard partyin' rock n roll singer and 4 uber sober dudes, just sayin...
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Is it really gonna shatter anybody's world if Aerosmith break up?
Well thank God Paul Rodgers turned Perry down on the invite...seriously, the Pseudo-Queen thing was bad enough, I couldn't even begin to imagine how awful he'd be in the Aeroshits...
Wasn't somebody talking Lenny Kravitz a while back? I might actually be somewhat interested in that, that might be kinda cool.
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lenny kravitz? whos he?
Thanx Mr Walker, I'm so there next month!
Michael Monroe March 12 - Hollywood, CA @ Viper Room
I heard Lenny Kravitz declined the Aero slot. Imagine the fan backlash and possible lawsuits any new singer would get, all for a one-off tour...
Man....
Hagar ??? As much as I dislike what Aerosmith become,
I wouldn't wish Hagar on anyone.
Although I guess its not new material we are talking.
Its just imitating the real singer..
Ah fuckit.... He can't even get that right...
Man, Joe must be back into the pharmaceuticals also..
Dont they realize this is prime time for the real Aerosmith
to record ??? This is when they are at their best !
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Joe Perry's new solo discs have been better than anything Aerosmith has done in years. So why keep this debacle going?
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Pure and simple.
Joe Perry solo, as good as it might be musically, won't garner but a fraction of Aerosmith. Not in album sales or ticket sales.
And 4/5ths of Aerosmith with a questionable singer in place of Tyler will? The plan holds water like a cheese grater. The whole thing reminds me of that period during the eighties when Mick and Keith were dueling in the press, and at one point it was rumored that the Stones would be touring with Roger Daltrey supplying the vocals. Fortunately cooler heads prevailed then, and hopefully will do so as well here.
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