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    Wink Uh, no?

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    Thought they took your magic twanger away there for a minute....
    Nah, just kinda busy...

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    Any Eric Johnson fanboy in you care to post an Iwato / Ioato or wtf its' called..
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    You know what, Clay....if you have nothing to add to a thread, constructively, stay the fuck out.
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    Thumbs down No Iwato for you.

    "Iwato" was actually in the next couple of pages I was going to post, but because of that, now I'm gonna go all scale-nazi on you.

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    Oh for fuck's sake NOOOOOO! My fingers are still burning from the C Harmonic thingy in post #82!

    Please not the scale-nazi, Jay! Have pity....I'm a fucking drummer, bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    You know what, Clay....if you have nothing to add to a thread, constructively, stay the fuck out.
    If you don't dig Eric Johnson tricks, thats just fine with me.

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    fucking hell, jay, this is fucking good shit......keep it coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ace diamond View Post
    fucking hell, jay, this is fucking good shit......keep it coming.
    Will do, I just have to make a note to myself remember to omit the "Iwato" scale when I post the next batch...

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    Some those fingerings are a little weird, IMO...

    Personally, I would've played that C Lydian Minor like this:

    ------------------------------------------4--6--8--
    ---------------------------------5--7--8-----------
    -----------------------3--5--7---------------------
    -------------4--5--6-------------------------------
    ---3--5--7-----------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------------------

    But that's just me, right?
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    Yeah, as far as the fingerings go, they're totally up to interpretation.


    Like the 4th finger example I posted...a lot of these will have to be RE-interpreted by someone who thinks their pinky is for decorative purposes only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Yeah, as far as the fingerings go, they're totally up to interpretation. Like the 4th finger example I posted...a lot of these will have to be RE-interpreted by someone who thinks their pinky is for decorative purposes only...
    Like most things in guitar playing...

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    Talking Who'da thunk it?

    Aw...it was gonna be in the very next example, too...and then somebody had to open their big trap...



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    We interrupt the scale segment of the program for a cool Doug Aldrich lesson...



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    Doug is a great player. Taste, shred and style. H's got all the bases covered. Reminds me a bit of Randy at times.
    Let's hope he never accepts an offer from the O$bournes. They'll have him flush his identity down the drain (see Gus G.) and force him to simply immitate Zakk's cheesy over done horsey squeals and donkey farts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondjimi View Post
    Doug is a great player. Taste, shred and style. H's got all the bases covered. Reminds me a bit of Randy at times.
    Let's hope he never accepts an offer from the O$bournes. They'll have him flush his identity down the drain (see Gus G.) and force him to simply immitate Zakk's cheesy over done horsey squeals and donkey farts...
    Since he's already played for Dio, maybe that puts him off the market? But agree, he's got it all, and TONE for days too...best Marshalls I ever freakin' heard...

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    Too bad he's in Whitesnake (have you heard Coverdale these days? ) .
    Good enough gig regardless. Shit, at least he isn't a complete whore like Viv Cambell and having to play rhythm stooge to a second rate "shred" hack like Phil Colon for a pay cheque ...

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    OK, back to it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondjimi View Post
    Too bad he's in Whitesnake (have you heard Coverdale these days? ) .
    Good enough gig regardless. Shit, at least he isn't a complete whore like Viv Cambell and having to play rhythm stooge to a second rate "shred" hack like Phil Colon for a pay cheque ...
    That last CD was pretty good, but haven't heard Coverdale live in eons...

    Phil Collen shreds a little harder than you think, dude...impressed Rhoads when his then band Girl toured with Ozzy according to Rudy's book...

    But he and Viv are about evenly matched....and both pray at the altar of Gary Moore.
    Their styles are kinda... similar actually...haven't seen 'em to see how they keep it from sounding boring...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    That last CD was pretty good, but haven't heard Coverdale live in eons...


    Poo poo vocals, Aldrich smokes!

    Phil Collen shreds a little harder than you think, dude...impressed Rhoads when his then band Girl toured with Ozzy according to Rudy's book...
    Meh, a little bit ,me guess. A couple of Moore licks, desending diminished scale add harmonizer and whammy out... Viola' arena solo!

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    Thanks for the Aldrich clips, J. I need a beer...

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    Coverdale looks so fat wet n sweaty, about as bad as me comin out of the shower into my pyjamies.. he's a fuckin PIG isn't he

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    Let's do another Gilbert alternate-picking rutbuster before we get into more scale forms..






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    Talking No shit, it works...

    So here's a real-world example: Lead section for a tune I was finishing the guitar tracks on. Though the overall tonality of the tune is F# minor, for the lead break it modulates to C#minor (trying in some cases to make the lead sections mini-compositions ala Rhoads).

    So the chord progression I had to work with was an arpeggiated C#min, A, and B. Which meant my "inside" scale choice was Emajor and C#minor. And then I also had to come back from the lead into the chorus, and had the tag for the fadeout to do, which is fully over the main theme of the tune, which is in F#minor. OK, so automatically I've got that and A major to work with there. Knowing I had other options to choose from allowed me to throw in blues scale notes and chromaticisms to spice things up a bit:

    SoundClick artist: Jay Hale - Guitarist, songwriter, guitar-builder

    For the end part of the lead though it was a semi-conscious decision, it wasn't a big deal to pull an ascending run in C#minor, hold the end note, and them descend in F#minor and vibe out, if that makes any sense.

    I'm not saying you (or I, or anyone) should know every one of these scale forms and permutations by heart, but getting their various tonalities under your fingers opens up a whole different ballpark of improvisational options...



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    THANKS HALE.......keep it coming........oh, and before i forget, thanks for the "iwato"
    i am slowly working my way through this stuff and finding how very useful the different tonal variations
    can be.
    this is excellent stuff to add into my admittedly limited bag of licks......it's really opening new doors to new avenues of improvisitation and exploration.

    this stuff is ace!
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    Wink And you thought I'd forgotten...

    Alright, have a minute to bump this...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Yeah, as far as the fingerings go, they're totally up to interpretation.
    Like the 4th finger example I posted...a lot of these will have to be RE-interpreted by someone who thinks their pinky is for decorative purposes only...
    come now hale.......i use my pinky plenty.
    i'm developing a quite considerable reach soloing on the higher frets further down the neck.....when i'm just jamming and practicing here at home.
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    Thumbs up Professor Shred Edjumacational BUMPAGE.

    Guthrie Govan Blues Scale incorporation, Chromatic-passing tone-using -String-Skipping Arpeggio Lesson BUMP.









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    Arrow Sometimes it helps just to watch someone else's technique...

    This is a pretty good close-up "how do you play that?" vid...


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    I aways wondered how Ed got that nice ringing sound when he tapped the strings. Then I learned you really have to smack the hell out of them. You have to have strong hands to play like Ed and finesse. I actually got better at playing guitar by playing bass. It just built my hand strength up to the point where the guitar felt like a little toy and I could torture the thing into screaming out some good music. That really is the secret to Ed. Abuse the guitar with finesse. Just pretend the guitar is your bitch and slap it around until it screams and moans. It really is electric sex.
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