Nativity My Ass - The Reality Of Jesus's Birth

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Don't blame the title .

Blame the fools who line up to get fleeced.

Go back and read through it all again and you'll see no-one was blaming "the title".

We're talking about people's interpretations.

[ELVIS]

The flesh causes us to go down the wrong path...

[kwame k]

No dude...

You're telling me in the history of religion, NO ONE has ever misused the Bible to further their own twisted agenda?

So David Koresh was the second coming of Christ.....damn missed Jesus again.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

The flesh causes us to go down the wrong path...

Yes...we're talking about interpretations.

[kwame k]

The flesh causes us to go down the wrong path...

You can say that again! Man, some of the shit I did when I was younger to get laid.....Phew!

[thome]

C'mon Ace everyone know Satan exists, it is the existance of God that is hard to cognitize.

Fight the hard fight, fukk the simple sh!t.

[ELVIS]

Ok then, learn fron it and live...

[ace diamond]

Knock it off Vinnie Vermin.....you've already over-used that shit in another thread.

well, it is applicable here as it was there.

[thome]

You're telling me in the history of religion, NO ONE has ever misused the Bible to further their own twisted agenda?

You should have said that in the mirror...allthough twisted is a bit harsh for me to imply back towards you.

We are all doing it right now even the ones who think they can congigate it.

no harsh

[kwame k]

well, it is applicable here as it was there.

Not half a fucking page of that stupid shit.....pick one make your point and move on.

[Jesus Christ]

We are gods.

Well, I am at least.

[kwame k]

You should have said that in the mirror...allthough twisted is a bit harsh for me to imply back towards you.

We are all doing it right now even the ones who think they can congigate it.

no harsh

Never said I didn't have my own interpretation of the Bible....When have I ever said mine is the only or the right one.

[kwame k]

Well, I am at least.

Thank-you Jesus, Thank-you Lord...if I may quote a Stones song.

[Sensible Shoes]

Ah, y'know, I usually love to get into this debate here at this time of year. But my heart's not in it this time. Because of the state of the world, and the state of my own life, I'm in the spirit to let people believe in the tooth fairy if it gets them through hard times.

Elvis, normally I would have a great time sparring with you - I was educated by the bastard children of the catholic church - they lived to stir shit amongst the adamant believers as an exercise in testing faith. They would question EVERYTHING in the firm belief that all the debunking and analysis would eventually lead people back to faith because philosophically, there was no other option. In the meantime, they did their damndest to make the journey as difficult as humanly possible. In their eyes, nothing about faith is simple - and there was no value to it unless you'd eliminated all the other possibilities. The fact that they normally did this while pleasantly stewed in the communion wine did nothing to lessen the mental exercise.

While it used to be fun, it just makes me tired these days. Most of the disgruntled-ness I see here is about the man-made church and what it's done to individuals (sheep?) over the years. I get the idea by your location that the Catholic church is probably not on your good list either. Bottom line, it just doesn't matter, people want to search for truth. If all things are really created by God, then the search is good. If you think their search is bad, then just hang onto your own faith, and acknowledge that what goes on here doesn't lessen what you believe. And you do not know where anybody else's search will ultimately take them.

You've been kind to me. So I choose to respect what you believe as well as your right to evangelize. Merry Christmas.

[thome]

Never said I didn't have my own interpretation of the Bible....When have I ever said mine is the only or the right one.

ARE YOU SAYING MINE ISN'T!!!

This is how countries end up at war, your last quote and my answer.

Here is how it happens a the bar.

then we talk about politics, then sports, then the fight breaks out and I wake up in jail............... again.