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    When I was a kid all I cared about was getting out of school for two weeks and getting a bunch of presents. Now I just want to get loaded on scotch and champaign, do some skiing, ride the snowmobile around, sit in the hot tub, and get laid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Maybe...

    God give's us the ability and the free will to do the right thing...
    Exactly my point.
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    Jackson Hole is a hoot on New Years. All ski resort towns are. It get's pretty wild. That's really the fun for me now.

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    We are gods.

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    If you are waiting around for someone to save you, then good fucking luck. There are only universal laws and the creation. Where we exist in it is up to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    We are gods.
    No, we are not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    No, we are not...
    Actually, there is a theory that God is in fact simply the human race.
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    Christmas is the day we celebrate the birth of Christ.

    So.... who said to you. that it was his birthday.

    are you cats really in your 30's and stuff..?

    We, as in the people that; I wasn't there at the time, chose mid winter because it is the harshest time of year and the ability to come together in peace and harmony, will insure the survival in desperate fukkin times.

    Before Kwakkie Kay comes back and sais christmas was invented in 1930 and ...who is desperate in thier city flat wearing Gucci loafers.

    It is the traditional time of great loss due to the seasons of the earth are less abundant.People did this even when Cave Dude was rool'n the planet. Indians, Chinese, Siberians, who were without the Gucci shoes did it long before Bing sang the tune.

    If you want to pray and celebrate together and share gifts to the young and old to brighten thier hopes for a future spring and the resurection of life .

    I will leave the rest up to you to, to peace together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun Ponsonby View Post
    Actually, there is a theory that God is in fact simply the human race.
    That is really silly...

    There is a man-made theory about EVERYTHING!

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    I agree, AWe. Just because things are proven to be different shouldn't change whether or not you have faith. By definition faith is believing in the absence of proof.

    These were stories told...morality tales to help explain how people should live together. Some have been proven accurate and somethings have been shown that the author took poetic license. Somethings get glossed over as time goes by and we progress. Even the most adherent Biblical person doesn't go out and sacrifice animals anymore. We evolve and so does religion.

    Still doesn't change the fact that "Thou Shall not kill" is a pretty good commandment, if you're going to live around a large group of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    That is really silly...
    Yea, its more sensible to put all your faith in an unprovable man in the sky.

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    No, but he does disapprove of us doing the wrong thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    No, but he does disapprove of us doing the wrong thing...
    Oh, that classic Christian wit!


    For the record, I have nothing against God (if he exists) and religious people (other than the ones who are up their own arse).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    No, but he does disapprove of us doing the wrong thing...
    Depending on who's interpretation of the Bible you go by. The worst thing about the Bible or maybe the greatest thing is you can slant the Bible to justify just about anything. Good or bad.

    There's so much ambiguity in the stories that people for 1000's of years have misused passages to further their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun Ponsonby View Post
    Oh, that classic Christian wit!


    For the record, I have nothing against God (if he exists) and religious people (other than the ones who are up their own arse).
    That's it...don't expect to have religious freedom for yourself and condemn other people who believe differently or not at all from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Depending on who's interpretation of the Bible you go by. The worst thing about the Bible or maybe the greatest thing is you can slant the Bible to justify just about anything. Good or bad.

    There's so much ambiguity in the stories that people for 1000's of years have misused passages to further their agenda.
    No dude...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    No dude...
    Yes, actually...

    As a modern example, you just have to look at Fred Phelps.

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    Knock it off Vinnie Vermin.....you've already over-used that shit in another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun Ponsonby View Post
    Yes, actually...

    As a modern example, you just have to look at Fred Phelps.
    There have been many misguided souls who have commited crimes in the name of booze to.

    And who except the booze addled can swear about, "the spirit told me too."

    *thome sets out a round of cyber beers*

    There are assholes who pick up titles every day.

    Don't blame the title .

    Blame the fools who line up to get fleeced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thome View Post

    Don't blame the title .

    Blame the fools who line up to get fleeced.
    Go back and read through it all again and you'll see no-one was blaming "the title".

    We're talking about people's interpretations.

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    The flesh causes us to go down the wrong path...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    No dude...
    You're telling me in the history of religion, NO ONE has ever misused the Bible to further their own twisted agenda?

    So David Koresh was the second coming of Christ.....damn missed Jesus again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    The flesh causes us to go down the wrong path...
    Yes...we're talking about interpretations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    The flesh causes us to go down the wrong path...
    You can say that again! Man, some of the shit I did when I was younger to get laid.....Phew!

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    C'mon Ace everyone know Satan exists, it is the existance of God that is hard to cognitize.

    Fight the hard fight, fukk the simple sh!t.

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    Ok then, learn fron it and live...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Knock it off Vinnie Vermin.....you've already over-used that shit in another thread.
    well, it is applicable here as it was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    You're telling me in the history of religion, NO ONE has ever misused the Bible to further their own twisted agenda?
    You should have said that in the mirror...allthough twisted is a bit harsh for me to imply back towards you.

    We are all doing it right now even the ones who think they can congigate it.

    no harsh

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace diamond View Post
    well, it is applicable here as it was there.
    Not half a fucking page of that stupid shit.....pick one make your point and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    We are gods.
    Well, I am at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thome View Post
    You should have said that in the mirror...allthough twisted is a bit harsh for me to imply back towards you.

    We are all doing it right now even the ones who think they can congigate it.

    no harsh
    Never said I didn't have my own interpretation of the Bible....When have I ever said mine is the only or the right one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Christ View Post
    Well, I am at least.
    Thank-you Jesus, Thank-you Lord...if I may quote a Stones song.

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    Ah, y'know, I usually love to get into this debate here at this time of year. But my heart's not in it this time. Because of the state of the world, and the state of my own life, I'm in the spirit to let people believe in the tooth fairy if it gets them through hard times.

    Elvis, normally I would have a great time sparring with you - I was educated by the bastard children of the catholic church - they lived to stir shit amongst the adamant believers as an exercise in testing faith. They would question EVERYTHING in the firm belief that all the debunking and analysis would eventually lead people back to faith because philosophically, there was no other option. In the meantime, they did their damndest to make the journey as difficult as humanly possible. In their eyes, nothing about faith is simple - and there was no value to it unless you'd eliminated all the other possibilities. The fact that they normally did this while pleasantly stewed in the communion wine did nothing to lessen the mental exercise.

    While it used to be fun, it just makes me tired these days. Most of the disgruntled-ness I see here is about the man-made church and what it's done to individuals (sheep?) over the years. I get the idea by your location that the Catholic church is probably not on your good list either. Bottom line, it just doesn't matter, people want to search for truth. If all things are really created by God, then the search is good. If you think their search is bad, then just hang onto your own faith, and acknowledge that what goes on here doesn't lessen what you believe. And you do not know where anybody else's search will ultimately take them.

    You've been kind to me. So I choose to respect what you believe as well as your right to evangelize. Merry Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Never said I didn't have my own interpretation of the Bible....When have I ever said mine is the only or the right one.
    ARE YOU SAYING MINE ISN'T!!!

    This is how countries end up at war, your last quote and my answer.

    Here is how it happens a the bar.

    then we talk about politics, then sports, then the fight breaks out and I wake up in jail............... again.

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    So we're going to war, Gnome? I almost thought we were agreeing with each other...oh well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes, Sensible View Post
    Ah, y'know, I usually love to get into this debate here at this time of year. But my heart's not in it this time. Because of the state of the world, and the state of my own life, I'm in the spirit to let people believe in the tooth fairy if it gets them through hard times.
    If I may butt in.
    Sorry things are so rough for you, Shoes...here's to a better 2010. I went through my funk/divorce last summer and I am over it and stronger because of it.

    So let's have an uplifting song for ya.....

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    LOL. Thank you Kwame.

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    You're telling me in the history of religion, NO ONE has ever misused the Bible to further their own twisted agenda?
    Pedro: Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curve-ball. Straight-ball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come.
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