Nativity My Ass - The Reality Of Jesus's Birth

[kwame k]

Well Vinnie Vermin I gave you overnight to retool your story without pointing out the obvious.......Wrongful Imprisonment is a term for people that are well.....Wrongfully Imprisoned and it's not an enforceable law.

Sorry to use that four letter word you have so much trouble understanding......FACT!

[ThrillsNSpills]

well, since the idiots cornered me, even after i let it be known i was not interested in what they were spewing, they kept following me around the store, pestering me, until i was literally in a corner and and surrounded by the idiots, in california, that actually qualifies as "wrongful imprisonment".

You should have just played some songs for them!

[Guitar Shark]

wrong.
only a federal marshall can set foot on a reservation.
but before the federal marshall can do so, a federal court order is required, and it must be signed by the president of the united states.
other wise, federal lawman is trespassing on the soveriegn land and can himself be arrested and imprisoned by the tribe.
also, before a federal marshall crosses into the reservation, the tribal leaders must be notified no less than a month in advance.
the us government is required to wait 30 days so as to allow tribal leaders and tribal police to deal with the issue first.

if, after the tribal leaders meet, they decide not to honor the federal court order, the marshal cannot do a damn thing about it.
if he tries to enter the reservation to enforce it, he can be arrested for trespassing on soveriegn land, and some tribe will just shoot you on the spot.
others will arrest you.
some will just act like they are not even there.
and still some tribes will just take refuge and hide until they leave,
so by the time the marshalls reach the village or tribal hq, no one is there.

the marshalls get thwarted and opposed in most cases.
simply because on the reservation, everyone knows the marshalls cannot do a damn thing about anything.
their legal authority is often not recognised, and is often laughed at openly.

Ace, what color is the sky in your world?

[ace diamond]

Well Vinnie Vermin I gave you overnight to retool your story without pointing out the obvious.......Wrongful Imprisonment is a term for people that are well.....Wrongfully Imprisoned and it's not an enforceable law.

Sorry to use that four letter word you have so much trouble understanding......FACT!

kwame, you would be surprised at the extreme stupidity of some of the laws here in california.

[ace diamond]

Ace, what color is the sky in your world?

i would tell you if i could see that far.
either way, it depends on the weather.
any other obviously stupid questions, sherlock?

[ThrillsNSpills]

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[ace diamond]

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eat a dick

[Guitar Shark]

any other obviously stupid questions, sherlock?

Why do you spend so much time making up ridiculous, easily disproven lies? Do you have nothing else in your life to occupy your time?

[kwame k]

Ace, it's not an enforceable law it's a term used for people who are wrongfully imprisoned.

So, if the cops arrested someone for wrongful imprisonment they would be opening themselves up for a lawsuit....in other words they would be giving the person arrested all the ammo they'd need to sue the State. It's not a law in Cali or anywhere else for that matter.

Nice attempt at a back peddle and it would of been a great story had you omitted that...of course you can prove that it happened by linking or clipping the arrest blotter that most local newspapers put out.

[kwame k]

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[ace diamond]

Ace, it's not an enforceable law it's a term used for people who are wrongfully imprisoned.

So, if the cops arrested someone for wrongful imprisonment they would be opening themselves up for a lawsuit....in other words they would be giving the person arrested all the ammo they'd need to sue the State. It's not a law in Cali or anywhere else for that matter.

Nice attempt at a back peddle and it would of been a great story had you omitted that...of course you can prove that it happened by linking or clipping the arrest blotter that most local newspapers put out.

kwame, the cop was probably just trying to scare the shit out of them as a means of deterring them from coming back there and bothering anyone else.

the cop knows he is full of shit, but those kids don't.

the officer called me this morning to tell me that those kids were not arrested, but they were let off with a citation for loitering, and told them that they cannot be there accosting and harrassing people.
their parents were notified.

also, the kids are banned for one year from the shopping center,
and if the are seen there again, it will be an arrest for criminal trespassing.

either way, the matter was taken care of and the issue was settled.
currently, the score is:
religious nut jobs 0
ace diamond 1

[ThrillsNSpills]

Those children were a nuisance.


It's good that you called the cops on them.

they were immediately grounded and sent to bed without dinner.


I know because their mother called me this morning. (for unrelated reasons)

[bueno bob]

Well, my Dad lives out pretty close to a reservation in Arizona way down south; apparently tribal councils have very little problem allowing outside law enforcement on their turf in the event that it becomes necessary (and that's usually border patrol), and in such cases they work hand in hand with tribal law enforcement.

Lines of communication and a willingness to cooperate with each other seem to be in abundance.

[Guitar Shark]

Well, my Dad lives out pretty close to a reservation in Arizona way down south; apparently tribal councils have very little problem allowing outside law enforcement on their turf in the event that it becomes necessary (and that's usually border patrol), and in such cases they work hand in hand with tribal law enforcement.

Lines of communication and a willingness to cooperate with each other seem to be in abundance.

Please stop making sense. Thank you.

As Ace so eloquently stated, President Obama has to sign an executive order each time any law enforcement personnel set foot on tribal lands. If Ace says it, it must be true.

[bueno bob]

Please stop making sense. Thank you.

As Ace so eloquently stated, President Obama has to sign an executive order each time any law enforcement personnel set foot on tribal lands. If Ace says it, it must be true.

He can't do that. He's too busy turning America into a socialist/communist hybrid.

[FORD]

He can't do that. He's too busy turning America into a socialist/communist hybrid.

...by further enabling capitalism, no less.

[Guitar Shark]

He can't do that. He's too busy turning America into a socialist/communist hybrid.

If Ace can catch salad for lunch in his local stream, I have to believe that anything is possible.

[ace diamond]

Well, my Dad lives out pretty close to a reservation in Arizona way down south; apparently tribal councils have very little problem allowing outside law enforcement on their turf in the event that it becomes necessary (and that's usually border patrol), and in such cases they work hand in hand with tribal law enforcement.

Lines of communication and a willingness to cooperate with each other seem to be in abundance.

bob, some tribes play along.
some don't.

that's all there is too it.

[ThrillsNSpills]

If Ace can catch salad for lunch in his local stream, I have to believe that anything is possible.

complete with plastic fork and napkin in plastic wrap

[ace diamond]

comedy hour, anyone?

[kwame k]

If Ace can catch salad for lunch in his local stream, I have to believe that anything is possible.

Which brings us right back on topic......it's called faith. In the absence of any proof, logic and common sense, one must have faith to still believe Ace's stories

[kwame k]

comedy hour, anyone?

We're only as good as the material you give us, Ace

Now let's get back to improving your storytelling. You should of ended your story with, "The cops showed up and after that I left". You see in doing that and not trying to "swing for the bleachers" you could not have been tripped up so easily and caught in your typical, telling another lie to get out of the previous lie.

I'm seeing improvement, Ace. With a few tweaks here and there we can make you a great storyteller. like your forefathers.

[ace diamond]

We're only as good as the material you give us, Ace

Now let's get back to improving your storytelling. You should of ended your story with, "The cops showed up and after that I left". You see in doing that and not trying to "swing for the bleachers" you could not have been tripped up so easily and caught in your typical, telling another lie to get out of the previous lie.

I'm seeing improvement, Ace. With a few tweaks here and there we can make you a great storyteller. like your forefathers.

ok, so i made up and threw in was the "worngful inprisonment" bit.
however, the rest is true.

[ace diamond]

Which brings us right back on topic......it's called faith. In the absence of any proof, logic and common sense, one must have faith to still believe Ace's stories

well, it's about time someone caught on to my whole point.

not much different than religion, is it?
that is the whole point.

[kwame k]

ok, so i made up and threw in was the "worngful inprisonment" bit.
however, the rest is true.

See, you gotta know when to say when. Sometimes leaving stuff out makes the story better and harder for us to catch you in a lie.

Of course most local newspaper put out a Police Blotter saying the Police were dispatched and stuff like that, even if there wasn't an arrest. So we can verify the story that way, too. Might of worked better if you left it at the Mall Cop part and not brought the Police into it.

You're getting there.......

[kwame k]

well, it's about time someone caught on to my whole point.

not much different than religion, is it?
that is the whole point.

Come on now, Ace...that wasn't the point and you know it. Once you post it, own it and stop back peddling and using one lie to cover up another lie. We can sense weakness in a post from a mile a way.

[Golden AWe]

Revelations (the guy in the first pic is John)

[Little Texan]

Revelations (the guy in the first pic is John)

Translation, GA?

[Sensible Shoes]

Are we still fightin' about this?

[ace diamond]

Are we still fightin' about this?

fuck yes we are.............it's the neverending story!

[Seshmeister]

Well, my Dad lives out pretty close to a reservation in Arizona way down south; apparently tribal councils have very little problem allowing outside law enforcement on their turf in the event that it becomes necessary (and that's usually border patrol), and in such cases they work hand in hand with tribal law enforcement.

Lines of communication and a willingness to cooperate with each other seem to be in abundance.

Lets face it it's a shit unsucessful pointless culture.

They failed to even make decent houses never mind cars and computers and so forth.

They should be thankful that some of the native American genes will survive due to europeans gangbanging squaws otherwise their pointless bronze age civilisation would have been completely wiped out.

Cheers!

[ace diamond]

Lets face it it's a shit unsucessful pointless culture.

They failed to even make decent houses never mind cars and computers and so forth.

They should be thankful that some of the native American genes will survive due to europeans gangbanging squaws otherwise their pointless bronze age civilisation would have been completely wiped out.

Cheers!

how typically european of you to just assume we are all just a bunch of dumb heathen savages in need of being "civilised" according to european definition.

sesh, the native populations of the americas are a whole lot fucking smarter than you give us credit for.

if it were not for the indians, the people of that came over the atlantic ocean on the mayflower would have frozen and starved to death.

oh, snap, there i go with historical facts.
but then again, how could i possibly?
according to you, indians are "bronze age" civilisation.

let me correct you here also.

very few of the native american tribes were even in existance during the bronze age.

the majority, like say 95% of the tribes that exist today, or the ones known to have died out or been killed into extinction in the last 1000+ years since europeans started settling in the americas, did not exist in the bronze age.

the inuit, the navajo, the apache, the hopi, the anasazi, and a few others in the western regions of north america predate the bronze age.
all others came into existance only in the past 1,500 years or less.
it was a result of inter-tribal marraiges.

at least that is where it started.

sesh, you really fucking stepped in it this time.

open foot, insert mouth.

as for "unsuccessful shit cultures"

you are wrong again.

native american astronomers in ancient times have been proven to be some of the finest the world has ever seen.

american indian astronomy predates european astronomy by literally, thousands of years.
and the stuff our astronomers discovered, they literally etched it in stone.
today, it is globally acknowledged as "the finest and most accurate works of astronomy ever produced".

time keeping..........the mayan long count calander-clock is acknowledged by science the world over as literally being the most accurate ever produced.
and even know, europeans have spent literally centuries trying to figure it out.
and they have made zero progress over the past 500 years since the europeans found out about it.

what did they do instead?
they tried to destroy and obliterate all our writings, records, cultures, structures, our entire population.

and during ww2, the navajo utilised their native language so that the japs and germans could not decipher any
transmissions they intercepted.
they were the navajo code talkers.
you should be thanking them that scotland is not a german speaking country under nazi rule.
now, sesh, an open mouth hears nothing.
shut the fuck up and you might actually learn something.

btw, sesh, the claim you made about the cars and computers is utter bullshit.
Y O U F A I L !
seshmeister just got fucking owned very fucking hard by ace diamond.
everybody mark this day down on your calender.
history in the making.

[ace diamond]

also, sesh, native american indians have always been pro-enviornment.

the rest of the world is just now starting to realise how right we have always been.

the contributions to science and knowlegde the world over of the native american populations

is considered an invaluble treasure that was far ahead of its' time.

as for native american indian building methods......2 words........machu pichu......look at the mayan temples in mexico, look at the many incan cities that are still standing in silent defiance of fransisco pizarro.........
here in the united states, look at the anasazi ruins in chaco canyon in new mexico.....

these structures have stood for hundreds, and some of them, for thousands of years.

look at the system of writing the cherokee invented.

look at the drawings on cave walls of the hopi telling their stories in pictographs.
very clear images meant to convey the message.

so many things have american indians contributed to the world.

yet for most of it, we are not given our due credit.

seshmeister.........do the smart thing next time you wanna open your fucking mouth.........
think before you speak.

[Golden AWe]

Translation, GA?

A bad one. 1. "Howdy there"

2. "Will you come to the church tonight?"
"Sure thing"

3. "We've just seen the revelation of John"

"Revelation" of John (the bald one) is that hideous wife of his in this one. Just testing if that would work in other languages

[Seshmeister]

Actually I was joking in my post about the injuns but after reading Ace's post I think I was maybe onto something.

The best that he can up with is an unsucessful language, some cave paintings and the fact that they were pro environment because they were too primative to be able to have an impact on it.

That and a complete failure to learn how to use capital letters...

At least the aborigines and eskimos have the excuse of living in a difficult evironment. The redskins had it all there for the taking but instead just sat about in tents smoking and coming up with silly names for each other.

[chefcraig]

The redskins had it all there for the taking but instead just sat about in tents smoking and coming up with silly names for each other.

The young Indian boy had spent most of his life in a quandry... He felt different yet... couldn't figure why... he was just so depressed. He went to the Chief for answers... He asked the Chief how his brother Red Deer Running had gotten his name...

The Chief answered in his typically poetic way..."When Red Deer Running was born, at the moment of his birth, the first thing his mother saw was a beautiful deer running off into the forest... and so Running Deer was named. It is the custom of our tribe to name the offspring according to the spirits in nature visiting upon the birth."

Then, the boy said to the Chief... And how did my sister "Thundering Bird" get her name? The Chief described again, how at the moment of her birth Thundering Bird's mother had heard a roar of thunder and looking up, saw a bird flying in the sky...

The boy asked again, how his cousin "White Crouching Bear" had been given such a name... And the Chief, looking down once more at the boy, explaining the traditions of their tribe.... White Bear's mother had seen a rare white bear crouched over a stream at the moment her baby's birth.

Seeing and sensing some bewilderment on the boy's face, the Chief finally said:

"Why do you ask, Two Dogs A-Fuckin'?"

[ELVIS]

if it were not for the indians, the people of that came over the atlantic ocean on the mayflower would have frozen and starved to death.

If that were the case, they would have either froze or starved to death way before they got here...

Dumdum...

[ELVIS]

The redskins had it all there for the taking but instead just sat about in tents smoking and coming up with silly names for each other.

Sounds a lot like the hood...

[ace diamond]

If that were the case, they would have either froze or starved to death way before they got here...

Dumdum...

try again, shithead........
the english knew how to sail and survive on the open ocean on ships.

when they got here to america, the were sick, had few supplies left, and had no idea
what to do about it.
the native people of that region taught them about natural medicine and how to buile shelters, how to hunt, how to make animal sins into warm winter clothes.......and often the tribe would have a big hunt, and would invite the new settlers to the bbq..............
even the surviving diaries and such from that time, from the english tell
how dire the circumstances were, and it is said, in the words of one english, that many of them did die that winter from the cold, from starvation, from scurvy, from pneumonia,
and that those that did survive the winter only survived their first winter because
of the help of the natives.

elvis, i know history rather well.

you fail.

[Golden AWe]

Ace, chill out...when it comes to nature of the people, the habits of the people, I really don't see Sesh seriously defending a lot of european cunts over indian cunts...Sesh on the defense of italians? French? Catholic priests? English football players? Uhuhuhuhhuhuhu

Ok, romans, nazi farkers or Scorpions, maybe

EDIT: This is just like that scene from Dirty Harry, where the mexican rookie is told how Dirty Harry got his name...

Gonzales: There is one question, Inspector Callahan: Why do they call you "Dirty Harry"?
De Georgio: Ah that's one thing about our Harry, doesn't play any favorites! Harry hates everybody: Limeys, Micks, Hebes, Fat Dagos, ******s, Honkies, Chinks, you name it.
Gonzales: How does he feel about Mexicans?
De Georgio: Ask him.
Harry Callahan: Especially Spics.