Dave and John 5 recording

[Vinnie Velvet]

......and he also said that Dave is still with VH.

http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/john...ng-t49400.html

[Anonymous]

......and he also said that Dave is still with VH.

http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/john...ng-t49400.html

Well, with all due respect to the Showstoppa VV, I'll just take a shit on this parade, right at the beginning of it.

That post is from some dude who CLAIMS John 5 told him that.

How do we know it's not an Ass Liemond, whoops I mean, a bullshit?

Cheers! :bottle:

[chefcraig]

We'll see. For all we know, Dave was just recording demos. It's funny how these rumors come about in the first place. Seriously, by reading the article about Roth doing some vocal effects for an upcoming horror movie, the story could be written in such a manner that you'd believe he was in a studio working with Gene Simmons, which he was, yet he wasn't (if you catch my drift).

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/main-...s-wolfman.html

[jhale667]

Not sure which member of Fan Halen posted that, but if it's the one I know he's not one to fib...but even if it is true, they could just be demos for songs he's bringing in to VH (except for the "a record" part).

Take Gene, for example - hires ghost guitarists to flesh out his ideas before presenting them to the rest of the band...it's not unheard of.

[joe d'amato]

... it's possible dave could be doing a solo album while still in van halen. hopefully it's true ...

[DaveTheScott]

We all know how much of a fan the Sisters are of bandmates working on outside projects...stand the fuck by...

[sadaist]

We all know how much of a fan the Sisters are of bandmates working on outside projects...stand the fuck by...

LOL....way too true.


PS - Condolences on our Chargers.

[Panamark]

Whats even funnier is the "hired gun" comment from the emporer

Rock on Chickenshit !!!

Must piss these guys off everytime Dave is involved it outsells
Van Hagar... Man.... That makes my day........

[GAR]

Depends on what Dave is recording with John, if thats really the case: DLR Band, or future VH song pitches for VH7.

[fwacf]

I don't see this as being true at all.....

[VAiN]

Maybe Dave is doing a guest spot on an upcoming John5 album?

[Vinnie Velvet]

Yeah its a rumour and something posted by a linker as well.

But it is interesting.

There are a few of scenarios that can result from this:

1) --as someone already stated--Dave could be recording demos with John 5 for a new VH album. Unlikely though because he's never done that before (with VH anyway).

2) He is actually recording new material with John 5 for a new DLR solo album --- but will still tour with VH.

3) He is just recording a few songs as a guest on John 5's own solo record.

I would say number 2 is a possibility but 3 seems more likely.

Dave, as we know, is not one to just sit around and do nothing (which Ed likes to do these days) -- so he needs an outlet.

[if6was9]

1) --as someone already stated--Dave could be recording demos with John 5 for a new VH album. Unlikely though because he's never done that before (with VH anyway).

2) He is actually recording new material with John 5 for a new DLR solo album --- but will still tour with VH.

3) He is just recording a few songs as a guest on John 5's own solo record.

4) Eddie was replaced by John 5 in Van Halen

[chefcraig]

Yeah its a rumour and something posted by a linker as well.

I wouldn't hold that against MOJODOJO, as he's been around for nearly a decade over there and isn't given to posting nonsense. He is a working musician and generally comes off as an honest, decent guy.

Now, how he happened to interpret the remarks made by Lowery are another thing, as is how much truth was behind Lowery's comments in the first place. It wouldn't be the first time that a musician (John 5) has exaggerated the truth in order to put himself into a better light.

[Vinnie Velvet]

I wouldn't hold that against MOJODOJO, as he's been around for nearly a decade over there and isn't given to posting nonsense. He is a working musician and generally comes off as an honest, decent guy.

Now, how he happened to interpret the remarks made by Lowery are another thing, as is how much truth was behind Lowery's comments in the first place. It wouldn't be the first time that a musician (John 5) has exaggerated the truth in order to put himself into a better light.

I know MOJODOJO's been around. I was just trying to put it in perspective to our fellow soldiers here who don't know him.

But yeah, it could very well have been John just blabbing his mouth in exaggeration.

[vaijuju]

I wouldn't hold that against MOJODOJO, as he's been around for nearly a decade over there and isn't given to posting nonsense. He is a working musician and generally comes off as an honest, decent guy.

Now, how he happened to interpret the remarks made by Lowery are another thing, as is how much truth was behind Lowery's comments in the first place. It wouldn't be the first time that a musician (John 5) has exaggerated the truth in order to put himself into a better light.

right! and John 5 has an album coming soon
The official John 5 website

[UK ROCKER]

Yeah its a rumour and something posted by a linker as well.

But it is interesting.

There are a few of scenarios that can result from this:

1) --as someone already stated--Dave could be recording demos with John 5 for a new VH album. Unlikely though because he's never done that before (with VH anyway).

2) He is actually recording new material with John 5 for a new DLR solo album --- but will still tour with VH.

3) He is just recording a few songs as a guest on John 5's own solo record.

I would say number 2 is a possibility but 3 seems more likely.

Dave, as we know, is not one to just sit around and do nothing (which Ed likes to do these days) -- so he needs an outlet.

Can't see Dave doing any of the above ,not this far in the game.

VH product or nothing at this stage,

Dave won't fuck that up for anything.

Although Ed may well use this as an excuse so he dosen't have to come up with new product, It was all Dave's fault ec etc....

[hambon4lif]

Maybe Dave is doing a guest spot on an upcoming John5 album?

That's a possibilty. There is a John 5 disc coming out, and Billy Sheehan also has a guest spot on it.

.....I bet that's one motherfukker of a disc.

[hambon4lif]

We all know how much of a fan the Sisters are of bandmates working on outside projects...stand the fuck by...

On the other hand, is it really an issue?

It just seems so pissy-assed and petty at this point in the game that they would throw a tantrum about a bandmate doing a 'guest spot' on someone elses album.
It would also show that they didn't learn their lesson the first time around.

So Dave is doing the howls in some flick or kicking in on somebody elses disc....Big Fuckin' Deal! He can't just sit and do nothing while waiting for his bassplayer to get through puberty.

[standin]

You know, for ya'll to be all sexually wild and everything
It sure is up tight about doing what you want, when you want, and how you want around here. And it is not even about sexy time~ go figure.
I'll take Afghanistan for the win, Dave.

[chefcraig]

Eh?

[kwame k]

Eh?

Exactly.........

[Anonymous]

You know, for ya'll to be all sexually wild and everything
It sure is up tight about doing what you want, when you want, and how you want around here. And it is not even about sexy time~ go figure.
I'll take Afghanistan for the win, Dave.

If I ask you nicely, will you post your boobies?

Then maybe it's sexy time?

Cheers! :bottle:

[hankster]

I think that Dave isn't dumb enough to be doing something that would piss off the VH contingent, besides if he is then there goes the forthcoming VH album

[kwame k]

Didn't Eddie go on a rant about how it's not worth recording anything, anyways because his fans would; A) Just steal it and not buy it, and B) since we didn't love the awesome new tunes he did with Spammy on the '04 abortion tour.......we are not worthy of hearing anymore of his genius.

I can't blame Dave if he did record a new solo record and just do the oldies set with VH. At least that way he is giving the fans what they want.....new music.

[UK ROCKER]

I can't blame Dave if he did record a new solo record and just do the oldies set with VH. At least that way he is giving the fans what they want.....new music.

That would be great if that happened, but Dave would have to give interviews to promote his album, but all the press would ask about is VH, And the gag order may still be in place so that would put Dave in a tricky position.

I still thnk he will hold out for a VH album, knowing that it may shift a lot of copies.

Fingers crossed.

[kwame k]

That would be great if that happened, but Dave would have to give interviews to promote his album, but all the press would ask about is VH, And the gag order may still be in place so that would put Dave in a tricky position.

I still thnk he will hold out for a VH album, knowing that it may shift a lot of copies.

Fingers crossed.

Yeah, that's a great point.....from everything I have read about the last recording with Spammy, it was a nightmare even getting those lame ass songs together.

Can Eddie work with a producer and Dave in a creative environment? He seems pretty bitter that the VH fans blew off VHIII and the BS spammy '04 songs. Maybe he's lost his confidence in himself, maybe he's just a bitter little kunt, but that Guitar Player interview really puts the KO on new music. Kinda hard to misunderstand what he says in that interview.......but with everything in VH land, what is said today is contradicted tomorrow.

I hear ya, fingers are crossed here, too.

[heartbreaker]

......and he also said that Dave is still with VH.

http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/john...ng-t49400.html

I believe this IS all true, but the big question is... which year of NAMM are we talking about? I could see this being relevent for 1998, 2001, 2009, etc.

[kwame k]

Well since the post in question was from 1/18/2010. I'd have to say this weekends NAMM.

[standin]

If I ask you nicely, will you post your boobies?

Then maybe it's sexy time?

Cheers! :bottle:

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[Golden AWe]

VHLinks posting 11-12 year old news?

[Seshmeister]

If I ask you nicely, will you post your boobies?

Then maybe it's sexy time?

Cheers! :bottle:

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[Panamark]

Nobody does it better, best Bond song, Carly Simon, Roger Moore was in the saddle.
Spy who loved me............ fookin great

[Seshmeister]

Just 20 years ago, I don't think they would get away with that line any more.

My New Years resolution is to say "A woman?" in my best Roger voice any time one says anything in a meeting or so forth.

[ZahZoo]

Didn't Eddie go on a rant about how it's not worth recording anything, anyways because his fans would; A) Just steal it and not buy it, and B) since we didn't love the awesome new tunes he did with Spammy on the '04 abortion tour.......we are not worthy of hearing anymore of his genius.

I can't blame Dave if he did record a new solo record and just do the oldies set with VH. At least that way he is giving the fans what they want.....new music.

Ed also went on to say in that recent Guitar World interview the following:

I've got all kinds of music i could put out if i wanted to.
People don't take in consideration the other guys in the band.

I write all kinds of music that certain singers or musicians don't want anything to do with.

So what do i do?
VH conjures up a certain image, and if its a hair outside that image it won't be accepted.

What singers and musicians is Edweird currently alleged to have a working relationship with..?

Al, Wolfie... and maybe Diamond Dave.

I smell the Michael Anthony Syndrom brewing again... The Van Halen's going off the radar. The living can only sit around doing nothing for so long. They strike up a project with former band members to fill the time while Ed fucks off... Bam... Another one bites the dust!!

[Anonymous]

Woooah!!!!

Those are some FIIIINE boobies ye be sportin' thar, lass

Let me 'av a go at 'em, then.

*grope* *grope*

Oh, yeah!

Cheers! :bottle:

[Anonymous]

My New Years resolution is to say "A woman?" in my best Roger voice any time one says anything in a meeting or so forth.

That ain't half a bad idea, sir...

Mind you, it might stop one from getting laid.

Ah, who cares? A good laff justifies everything.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Seshmeister]

At this point a Roth solo album written with Johhny whatshisname would probably be better than a the three of them and Eddies child.

John 5 was involved in writing most of the best of the DLR Band album, Slam Dunk!, Blacklight, Counter-Blast, Little Texas, Wa Wa Zat!, Relentless and Weekend With the Babysitter.

All that let that album down was weak production, too many personnel and Roths vocals were a bit ropey. If they sort those things out then album for album its probably going to be better than anything the Van Halens could come up with at this stage.

If as seems likely, Roth only got to input the lyrics rather than what he used to do back in the day then how much better could you make something like 'Up for breakfast' sound. Not too shit?

I say he should go with this Johnny chap and say to the VH sisters he is only getting involved in a VH album if its a proper one and not some half baked Van Hagar reject album with him singing on it.

Cheers!

[chefcraig]

The tipping point in all of this is what (if anything) would EVH use as inspiration for writing new material? Perhaps a year of touring playing the old riffs might lead him back to the simplicity of the past in terms of writing, but you have to wonder exactly how much of it would serve as little more than going through the motions at this point. It's difficult for guys in their 50s to rekindle the past through much more than nostalgia, and even the greatest athletes lose the edge they once had in their youth. So if that is the case, I'd rather not hear any "new" stuff that was more or less an approximation of the past. That was the running theme of the dog and pony show known as the 2007/08 tour, wherein the flashes of true inspiration were few and far between. Yes, the effect is as comfortable as putting on an old sweater at times, but even that begins to chafe after a while.

[ZahZoo]

The question of Ed having the inspiration to compose again is valid...

Odds are good 98% of his past creations were inspired by a straw up his nose, the bottom of a bottle and a carton of Winstons plus the hunger/drive of a young man...

All that's left is the smokes and rusty memories...

Maybe Wolfie can bring something to the table that can fire up the old men... Hopefully the boy has more drive than he displayed on-stage. But being Ed's son I'd have to think the nut didn't fall far from the tree...

Someone else suggested this but Ed should consider hawking clocks with no hands...