State Of The Union thread

[hambon4lif]

Back when I was a kid, you got 6 whores for $1. And you had to ride them uphill, both ways. And we happy to have them!

...which goes a long way in backing up your story of how your dick fell off in the shower and why you spend your remaining days spewing bullshit on various messageboards.....

[Blackflag]

[LoungeMachine]

...which goes a long way in backing up your story of how your dick fell off in the shower and why you spend your remaining days spewing bullshit on various messageboards.....

BuckFag doesnt seem to be having a very good day here today....

[FORD]

Sammy "the Fish" Alito apparently doesn't like it when the President calls out him and his fellow BCE appointed assholes for the worst SC decision since Dred Scott (or at least Florida Fraud 12/12/2000)

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[jhale667]

F the Fish. Sellout bitches.

Sammy "the Fish" Alito apparently doesn't like it when the President calls out him and his fellow BCE appointed assholes for the worst SC decision since Dred Scott (or at least Florida Fraud 12/12/2000)

Yeah, as if to say "How dare he call us out for selling out and ENDING the democratic process as we know it in this country."

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Liked when he called out the Supreme Court, fuck Alito...

Liked when he told the Dems not to "run to the hills"....

Liked when he told the Repubs that "that's how budgeting works", among other things....

Liked what I heard when he got into some detail about the jobs plan....

Overall, I came into it not expecting much, because I knew the Repubs would sit on their hands most of the night... But it was nice to see that for the most part they were respectful and even gave him applause on several items....

[Mr Walker]

Books were a rip off but I can only imagine what they gouge the students today with.

For the Spring Semester 2009 my son had to spend $690.47 on books and materials... not sure what my daughter had to spend.

[jhale667]

Liked when he called out the Supreme Court, fuck Alito...

Liked when he told the Dems not to "run to the hills"....

Liked when he told the Repubs that "that's how budgeting works", among other things....

Liked what I heard when he got into some detail about the jobs plan....

Overall, I came into it not expecting much, because I knew the Repubs would sit on their hands most of the night... But it was nice to see that for the most part they were respectful and even gave him applause on several items....

Yeah, liked when he nailed the Repubs with the part about "saying 'No' to everything is not LEADERSHIP"

But it was nice to see some of them show some support as the speech progressed - but they pretty much HAD to, lest the reveal themselves as nothing BUT obstructionists...

[ZahZoo]

Well I'll buck the trend and offer my take on this SotU speech...

First and foremost... the President needs to quit campaigning for the office he holds. The campaign trail ended over a year ago. Some reflection on the past and how we got here is fine... but President Bush and his administration are retired. We get it on how we got here... time to get to the business of now and the future.

Jobs... I liked some of what I heard. Reduce taxes on small business through elmination of capital gains. Use banking bailout funds to provide capital to small/med business for investment. Growing business in the small/med segments will spur sustainable job growth.

Supreme Court jab... whatever. Most people can't stand the influence and $$billions$$ of wasted money spent by corporations and special interest groups influencing votes and elections. It don't put food on their tables or pay the rent. Obama committed to reduce or eliminate this within his administration... My take... support the court on their role in supporting the 1st amendment aspects. Rather than take shots at them... I'd much rather see significant elimination of political funding/lobbying on all levels through legislation that frankly makes all this crap illegal. Force corporations and special interest groups to invest in our economy. Allow them all the voice they want... shut off the flow of money in this area. Novel idea... through laws force the the special interest groups to lobby the American people. Take all of Congress, the White House and the courts out of the lobby/special interest game altogether.

Spending... nice idea to freeze it and evaluate line items. I don't hold much hope here. Actions speak louder than words... Until we see numerous tons of pork slashed and pork scanners installed at the halls of congress and the white house to prevent any new wasting of tax dollar... I won't be happy.

Health care... too much talk, smoke and mirrors and again tons of bacon and pork chops in play. Congress isn't brave enough to accomplish this task... the Insurance/Financial industry is winning the battle. Don't like much of anything on the table here as it sits and ferments...

It could be a simple thing. I think health care reform should be broken into separate segments to accomplish. First implement the reforms for pre-existing conditions, equality in rates for age, health, etc and most of the reforms that make any insurance coverage fair and equitable. Second... mandate and fund electronic records deployment. Set the data standards, set aggressive mandatory rollout and provide funding for small/med to adopt. Get health records out of the 19th century. Finally... go after the insurance industry. Single payer is about the best option... barring that... Create a public option that competes directly with the insurance giants. Make it affordable, simple and built to prevent fraud and profitiering... then let people decide what they want. It will force the insurance giants to change to compete or die...

Soap-box mode=off

[sadaist]

Yeah, liked when he nailed the Repubs with the part about "saying 'No' to everything is not LEADERSHIP"

But it was nice to see some of them show some support as the speech progressed - but they pretty much HAD to, lest the reveal themselves as nothing BUT obstructionists...

Obstructionists? The Republicans can't be blamed for the failures of the Democrats to get anything substantial accomplished this last year. Even if every last Republican said "NO", it wouldn't have mattered. The Dems had enough seats to run amok with whatever they wanted and they squandered it with their constant infighting, attacks on Republicans, and constantly blaming Bush for everything. inherited

They all spend so much time deciding who & how to blame others for their failures that they don't have time to determine how to work around obstacles, work together, and get things accomplished.

"Bipartisanship" doesn't mean the other side agreeing to your terms. It means both sides working together, negotiating, give & take, and compromise. All in the best interests of all Americans, regardless if they have a D or R on their voter registration card (or what their net worth is).

As far as Obama accusing others of lacking "Leadership", that's just laughable. For the last year, and during the majority of the campaign, the public was concerned with jobs & war. Rather than work on what was most important to the country, he pushed what was important to himself. It's not really leadership if no one is following.

[BITEYOASS]

The speech was weaksauce. I was hoping for: "To all of my republican congressional colleagues I would like to say, fuck you!"

But no, just the usual bi-partisan BS.

[BigBadBrian]

Liked when he called out the Supreme Court, fuck Alito...

Yeah, we wouldn't want free speech in this country now, would we?

Liked when he told the Repubs that "that's how budgeting works", among other things....

Too funny. The total amount of his driving our economy into debt during the past year almost surpasses all 8 years of Bush together. I'll bet Obama can't even balance his checkbook. That is, when Michelle trusts him with it.

[LoungeMachine]

Yeah, we wouldn't want free speech in this country now, would we?




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How was anyone's free speech impeded before?

[FORD]

Yeah, we wouldn't want free speech in this country now, would we?

The guy you voted for twice said "There oughta be limits to free speech". And then he made fascist laws that did exactly that once the Supreme Court put him in office.

Whatever a "free speech zone" was supposed to be, you don't see them anymore, do you? Shit, you have lunatics with assault rifles showing up to see the current President. That guy would have been arrested within 10 miles of a Chimp rally.

Actual free speech should never be restricted. Corporate money is not speech. Corporations are not persons. And Opie Roberts was never qualified to be on the Supreme Court.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Yeah, we wouldn't want free speech in this country now, would we?

What's the company line, money = free speech ??

Indeed...