Tiger Woods' Apology

[ZahZoo]

Surprised no one's discussing here...

A lot of people are pretty synical of the whole thing... which I can see. But to watch a man sincerely try to do the right thing and correct something he personally fucked up royally is interesting to say the least.

I can't imagine the burden he carries... not so much for the deviant ho'ing around and infidelity... that's a no brainer. But to attempt to atone for being such a positive image for kids and young people... and try to shoulder the responsibility of correcting that element... just seems unimaginable. How does one sincerely atone for that..? Or can he..?

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[78/84 guy]

The guy is a fuckin' dick !! Who give's a shit. He should whine some more about a photo being taken or throw a few more clubs around when he misses a birdie !! He should have never got married if he loves pussy so much.

[chefcraig]

There is one word, and one word alone that sums up all sides of this so called news story: Exploitation. On Tiger Woods part, it sums up his actions with regard to his use of women, on the part of the media, it describes the tabloid nature of seeking out the various gold-diggers willing to cough up some sordid details, and it describes the women themselves, all too willing to sacrifice whatever dignity they might have held for their allotted 15 minutes of fame.

Ask yourself some simple questions to put things into proper perspective.

1. Did Wood's actions increase or enhance his performance in his particular field of sports endeavor?
2. Other than his family and immediate friends, did he hurt anyone?
3. Did his actions improve his professional standing with regard to corporate sponsorship?
4. Finally, was Woods arrested, tried and convicted of a crime?

The answer to all of the above questions is a simple, resounding NO. Even so, pundits well beyond the usual sports shows, magazines and newspapers have jumped all over this event, and normally milquetoast news broadcasters and various media have devoured each and every salacious detail, salivating as every morsel has turned up.

So Woods goes into seclusion, seeking therapy to sort out the gigantic mess he has turned his life into. The speculation continues in the press, and when he finally breaks his silence after several months to make a statement, this same media horde complains that he did not go far enough with the details. What sort of self-entitled absurdity is that? The media effectively creates a story by turning to the sort of yellow journalistic "standards" that make Edward R. Murrow continue to roll in his grave, then after publicly hounding the guy for months, complain that he refuses to accommodate them?

This is utter horseshit. Look, Woods fucked up his life as certainly if he'd shanked a series of drives into the woods and water hazards on the back nine. The mistakes he made and the way he attempts to get his world back on track are the business of him and his family circle. That's it. He owes nothing to the media. The fact is, the media owes him the courtesy of allowing him to work toward regaining the trust of the public, his co-competitors, his sponsors and most importantly, his wife and kids.

And the real pisser in all of this is that the same people that are saying "Fuck Tiger" and relishing every uncomfortable moment he has brought upon himself, are by and large the very same people that will be overjoyed and declare all is forgiven the minute he wins at Augusta or Pebble Beach.

The inherent hypocrisy of this situation is nothing short of absurd. Come to think of it, that makes two words to describe this debacle: Hypocritical Exploitation

[ZahZoo]

I agree the media is just downright fucked up in this situation... they do owe him the courtesy of allowing him to handle his private affiars.

That's what's so disgusting... all that's occurred here has been private activities, incidents, whatever... none of it has anything to do with golf, sports, etc...

[kwame k]

Exactly, it's the typical "build 'em up, to tear 'em down" syndrome that the media loves to play. Once his act of contrition is complete, the media will hail him as a hero.

It's utter nonsense and the media is only using him to fill our crack-like addiction to scandal.

What he did to his family was wrong and in no way am I defending him but the man has paid his "sin/fame tax" in full. He has lost millions in endorsements and has his private life in the headlines daily. His brand name is tarnished for the time being and he is not playing golf, so he isn't earning anything per say.

I know, big deal he's got millions already but.....his marriage is on shaky ground, sponsors and endorsement deals are gone. He's ridiculed in the media and the butt of many jokes on TV.

Yeah, the guy's a dirt bag for fucking around but like Craig pointed out, his actions had nothing to do with sport he plays.

[binnie]

Who's he apologizing too?

Dude should be begging his wife forgiveness - not that I think it's possible to forgive such multiple transgressions........

[thome]

Apologize for what being a slave to the pussy..?

I guess his wife is fine that he is a slave to hers.

I bet most of this is a divorce block by him to try and relocate his fortune and then a year or so from now he or she will file.

His apology should have read, "since you all are so interested, don't be" then end of discussion........................................ ..........droped the mike like a rap douche, and walk away.

And if I was him any endorsment deals that left him/me I would tell them to sukkit, if they ever came back...

But..? the balls that got him here, seem to be missing all of the sudden..lol

[78/84 guy]

The only reason he is apologizing is becuse he got caught !!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE'S !!!

[Dan]

He should have never got married if he loves pussy so much.

Agree.

[standin]

Tiger was/is an important role model. The only reason I started to watch golf was Tiger. I remember his first win at the Augusta National. It was a big win for many people, Tiger symbolically beat the ole’ boy’s club. He stood for hard work, determination and hope could archive goals.

His presence was even felt when a notable entertainment executive was annoyed that he had to bunk in the same cabin (gasp) with “a colored” at the Augusta National, both were members. The screwing with that tiny redheaded twerp and the extent of that screwing was restrained by Tiger’s known integrity. It was a matter of class and nobility.

Tiger perhaps was caught up with the wrong crowd. This I believe so. It can happen. Tiger was/is one of the noble notoriety. It is not an easily won back honor.

He is more than golf. He is a leader and a nobleman. People of all ages valued his grace.

God willing, whoever at this time is leaving him little ethical quips moved his soul to blaze a trail with a moral compass. However, his Michael Jackson stupidity white-faced him. Thank goodness, that pallid can be removed with effort and time.

As for the apology itself, I think it was well rehearsed, but sincere. I believe someone co-wrote it with him and it was well written. I had not heard the rumors of the Viagra use. Nevertheless, jokes are jokes. I do not believe the domestic dispute claim. I do believe however, she and he expressed a very passionately restrained moment, which sometimes happens in the most noble of creatures.

I hope these two can move past this, it would be a shame for Tiger just to become another common celebrity. He has the prospective to be luminary.

[standin]

The only reason he is apologizing is becuse he got caught !!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE'S !!!

Sometimes the only way to stop a cycle of low ethical choices is by getting caught. And sometimes it is the getting caught that stops the low ethical choices.
He was on a long term poor ethics binge, that is no doubt.

[kwame k]

Phew, I need the drugs you're on, Standin

[LoungeMachine]

Surprised no one's discussing here...

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Personally, I couldn't possibly care less he:

cheated
crashed
went into sex rehab
apologized
will golf
wont golf
is sorry
wife left
blah
blah
blah

He's a guy who gets paid Squizzillions to whack a ball around nice lansdcaping, and pose in front of cars....

Would anybody give 2 squirts if it was Tiger Woods, math teacher?



Between he, his wife, and his insurance company.

You're in good hands with Allstate

[LoungeMachine]

Tiger was/is an important role model.

Horseshit.

To whom, exactly?

Any parent who points to a FUCKING PRO GOLFER and tells junior to admire and emulate him is a fucking pathetic moron.



Role model.

Spare me.

[standin]

Funny, funny, K.
Had Tiger wanted a swinger's life there was more than one woman that would have married him. Fact is, he didn't want a swinger's life and all the drama that goes with it or he would not have married who he did. Time for him to walk the walk and talk the talk.

And beat down that stereotypical hogwash, like ole Sparky the beard man.
That was whimsical just for you, K.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

As I mentioned somewhere else, I honestly don't know what should be considered a "sincere apology" nowadays....

What's the criteria ?? Does he have to cry ?? Does he have to enumerate the number of ho's he banged, including who performed fellatio the best ??

Don't get me wrong, I think he should be ashamed for what he did, especially with a beautiful Swedish bride and two great kids....

But what's he gotta do ?? All of the "experts" always say to get up there, admit your wrongdoings, try to repair your marriage and your family, and get on with your life....

Seems to me he did his best to do it.... Didn't he ???

[standin]

Horseshit.

To whom, exactly?

Any parent who points to a FUCKING PRO GOLFER and tells junior to admire and emulate him is a fucking pathetic moron.



Role model.

Spare me.

I for one considered him to be worth emulating.
His win that first year at the Augusta National was a big win.

He has a lot of fans beyond golf.
Golf just happened to be his vehicle.

He happened to be a prodigy, but he also happened to have a trail to blaze.





As for the Why bother asspect.....
My mom used to tell me to be extra nice to the freshmen because a few words or gestures from a senior can really mean something.

The same holds true for Tiger, a few words and gestures from Tiger can really mean something.

[kwame k]

Funny, funny, K.
Had Tiger wanted a swinger's life there was more than one woman that would have married him. Fact is, he didn't want a swinger's life and all the drama that goes with it or he would not have married who he did. Time for him to walk the walk and talk the talk.

And beat down that stereotypical hogwash, like ole Sparky the beard man.
That was whimsical just for you, K.

How do you know what Tiger wanted or didn't want?

Stereotypical hogwash?

WTF are you talking about......it's prescription drugs you're on, isn't it.

[standin]

As I mentioned somewhere else, I honestly don't know what should be considered a "sincere apology" nowadays....

What's the criteria ?? Does he have to cry ?? Does he have to enumerate the number of ho's he banged, including who performed fellatio the best ??

Don't get me wrong, I think he should be ashamed for what he did, especially with a beautiful Swedish bride and two great kids....

But what's he gotta do ?? All of the "experts" always say to get up there, admit your wrongdoings, try to repair your marriage and your family, and get on with your life....

Seems to me he did his best to do it.... Didn't he ???

I think he did pretty darn good. It was a tough duty.

[standin]

How do you know what Tiger wanted or didn't want?

Stereotypical hogwash?

WTF are you talking about......it's prescription drugs you're on, isn't it.

Just for you, stick-man. Just for you.

[kwame k]

Wow, just plain wow

[standin]

Have I done an extensive background on Tiger and his family?
No, I have not. However, generally, he, his father, and mother on the courses showed real family. Hell, even his dad never forgot a war friend. Those are long-term bonds type of people.

Did you see his Mother's body language during the speech? She was really pissed at him.

[kwame k]

Never even watched his apology.....that's between him and his wife.

His fucking around or "sex addiction" has absolutely no bearing on my life, for good or ill.

[chefcraig]

I wish Eddie Van Halen had apologized for VHIII sometime in 1999. I truly believe his state of mind (not to mention the state of the band) over the last decade or so would have been a far more healthy thing if he had done so.

[kwame k]

I wish Eddie Van Halen had apologized for VHIII sometime in 1999. I truly believe his state of mind (not to mention the state of the band) over the last decade or so would have been a far more healthy thing if he had done so.

First step in recovery is admitting you have a problem.....after reading his last interview, he seems to blame the fans.

Ed's Blaze'in down a river called De-Nile

[LoungeMachine]

But what's he gotta do ?? All of the "experts" always say to get up there, admit your wrongdoings, try to repair your marriage and your family, and get on with your life....

Seems to me he did his best to do it.... Didn't he ???

@ "experts"

The ONLY person he owes and apology to, is his WIFE.

THAT he SHOULD do in person......

Why the fuck does anyone in the world think he owes anyone anything?

And why the fuck does anyone care

A millionaire who goes on strolls in front of TV cameras for a living cheated on his wife. end. of. story.



And to standin: AGAIN, JUST MORE OF YOUR PSYCO-BABBLE HORSESHIT

[thome makes more sense than you on this matter]

[Terry]

Seems a lot of people are mad at Woods because his private life didn't mirror the public image he projected via his many commercial sponsorships. Said people might find it useful to wake the fuck up and realize the Easter Bunny doesn't exist and neither does the assumed correaltion between many celebrities and the way they present themselves to the public when they have something to sell. It's like people were honestly shocked to find out the guy was human just because he made a lot of money at golf and had a squeaky-clean image. Nowadays, Tiger woods doesn't look so holy, and John Daley doesn't seem so bad. Just as well, because we're all sinners and saints.

Woods has a "sex addiction"? Fuck me, there are far worse "addictions" to have in my book. Fair enough to surmise that from the perspective of his wife and their family members Woods obviously has a "problem", although how that translates into being a problem for anyone else is unclear to me. Far as parents publicly lamenting Woods failing to live up to his "responsibilities" as a "role model", well, parents need look no further than themselves if they're searching for people their children can look up to. Outside of his sponsors, Woods doesn't owe anybody (not even his fans) a goddamn thing beyond playing golf well. Last I checked, fucking around on your wife wasn't a criminal offense. Uncool? I'll agree with that. In breach of or voiding a prenup? Maybe. Warranting an amount of media coverage that eclipsed the serious issues of the day? If one is an avid reader of People magazine and gets a vicarious thrill watching celebs getting torn down by the mindless mass media, then I suppose yes.

Realistically, Woods had to say something, if only for the sake of retaining his sponsorships and trying to stem the flow of blood the press jackals were braying for. From a pr standpoint, my problem with what he did in terms of his press conference was twofold:

1) Why bother speaking to a room of packed reporters when there was to be no
Q & A? By simply reading a statement, he leaves too much unanswered. If
you're gonna feed the beast, you might as well stand up there as long as it
takes and answer questions for an almost absurd length of time...several
hours, if need be. Yeah, it wouldn't be pleasant, but it would, in effect, go
a lot further toward killing the story; let the questions fly, answer them all
and let the press pack exhaust themselves. That eventually takes the fuel
out of the situation. George Will said Woods basically did what all these public
figures now do when delivering these faux-apologies: accept an amount of
blame at the top of the statement, talk about their religion then end up
criticizing the press. Woods should have stood there as long as it took for
the vultures to pick his carcass clean. Can't clamor for more blood when all
that's left is the bones.

2) Woods could have accomplished what he did last week by simply recording
a monologue and releasing the video to either ESPN or his own web site
several months back. It wouldn't have required him to stand up in front
of a bunch of reporters and photographers watching him trundle through
a speech while clearly appearing ill-at-ease as the strobe effect of
flashbulbs illuminated his discomfort. He could have done as many takes in
a private taping as he needed in order to look comfortable (even if he
wasn't), and headed (to a degree) off months of media hounding if this
had been done much sooner.

I assume Woods must have some people in his employ assigned to handle media-relations. Were I him, I'd fire their asses for not having the balls to tell him his silence was just fueling the stories - whomever was advising him on how to handle the public dimensions of this situation, from what I can see they didn't serve him well.

[standin]

Golf is a game of integrity.

Tiger brought life back into golf.

There would not be a platform for Daly, if it wasn't for Tiger.

Daly reminds me of Hagar; pandering off another's platform.

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As for sports coverage, I guess you can say all sports coverage is silly when compared to world dilemmas.

Did that snowboarder really needed to be sent home just because he and others sucked on his medal?

[LoungeMachine]

Golf is a game of integrity.

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If that were true they'd have to carry their own damn clubs.......



Welp, if what you say is true, then Tiger just proved you wrong.....



Integrity.






Just how much INTEGRITY does one need to muster to hit a ball into a hole?

Philanthropy takes integrity....

Being a teacher, firefighter, police officer, or soldier takes integrity.....



No wonder you and Thermos hit off so well before your big breakup

[kwame k]

No, golf is a game where you hit a ball in a hole....... integrity is a trait you either have/develop or don't. Playing a game will not give it to you....you either have it or don't.

[LoungeMachine]

Per usual......

TERRY NAILED IT.

[kwame k]

Damn, beat me to it, bitch

[LoungeMachine]

Damn, beat me to it, bitch

As usual, you're a half a beat behind.......

Q: How do you know a drummer's at your door?

A: He doesn't know when to come in

[kwame k]

"Hey buddy, how late does the band play?"
"Oh, about a half beat behind the drummer."

Why is a drum machine better than a drummer?
Because it can keep good time and won't sleep with your girlfriend.

[standin]

If that were true they'd have to carry their own damn clubs.......

Welp, if what you say is true, then Tiger just proved you wrong.....

Integrity.



Just how much INTEGRITY does one need to muster to hit a ball into a hole?
Philanthropy takes integrity....
Being a teacher, firefighter, police officer, or soldier takes integrity.....

No wonder you and Thermos hit off so well before your big breakup

I have to get back to writing, but if you don't understand how golf is a game of integrity, you do not know the game of golf.

5:32 PM Monday, January 11, 2010
The recent media coverage of Tiger Woods and his extramarital affairs has focused on Woods as if he were a Hollywood celebrity. However, a key difference — and core to understanding many of us who are more than disappointed in Woods’ transgressions — is to understand how this relates to golf.

Golf is a game of honesty and integrity. The game relies on the individual to identify and report when he plays outside of the rules — accidental or not.

These apparent repeated transgressions must make the golfing world think a bit. While there is no doubt about Woods’ superb golfing ability, several questions now creep up:

How are they able to find Woods’ ball in the deepest of roughs? Did he get a little extra help in his recent recovery from knee surgery?

In life, we often separate our professional and personal lives. However, key traits are inherent in our personality, and these include integrity and honesty. For the golfing community, it is not the loss of celebrity, but the loss of integrity that causes us to feel betrayed.

Donald Allred

Springboro
Golf is a game that depends on honesty and integrity

Golf is referred to as a game for gentlemen and ladies because you keep the rules without being told to. What a great lesson to convey to your children, integrity. There are 34 Rules of Golf and the very first one states: “The game of golf consists of playing a ball with a club from the teeing ground into the hole by a stroke or successive strokes in accordance with the rules”.
The legendary Jackie Burke, Masters and PGA Champion, uses this rule to remind parents that like life you accept the tried and true rules. You don’t agree to change them just because they are difficult. And if you have any problems, you resolve them with fairness and equity like ladies and gentlemen.
• Keep an accurate score
• Don’t cheat
• Don’t agree with your playing partners tocheat or change the rules
• Resolve any disputes with fairness

http://pdf.pgalinks.com/p-g-a/family_golf_rule_book.pdf

[LoungeMachine]

I have to get back to writing, but if you don't understand how golf is a game of integrity, you do not know the game of golf.




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Hey dipshit.....


Your "integrity" flies right out the window once you leave the public course, and play for millions against other millionaires on TV, all the while parlaying your fame into endorsement contracts worh 100's of millions.....

If you look up to those who play golf for a living, and emulate their "integrity", then that tells me ALL I need to know about you....




A golfer has "integrity" becuase he keeps his own score and doesnt lie and/or cheat?

fucking classic.

[LoungeMachine]

Why is a drum machine better than a drummer?


.

Because a drum machine wont try and convince you it can write a song...

[kwame k]

A golfer has "integrity" becuase he keeps his own score and doesnt lie and/or cheat?

fucking classic.

......and there's no refs in pro-golf?

[kwame k]

Because a drum machine wont try and convince you it can write a song...

Why do bands have bass players?
To translate for the drummer.

I once asked a drummer how to spell "Mississippi".
He said, "the river or the state?"

[LoungeMachine]

......and there's no refs in pro-golf?

Exactly.

Just like when I play tennis with my cheater lawyer friend, and he calls my serve OUT.....

Makes me wish I could turn pro and have a linesman....



Standin's argument is hilarious