Is this Ry Cooder on slide guitar?

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  • ThrillsNSpills
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6626

    Is this Ry Cooder on slide guitar?

    Hardcore - Watch the full feature film now free. - Crackle

    It's at the 35 minute mark. Jack Nitzsche did the music for this as well as Performance with Mick Jagger which has Cooder doing some great work on Memo from Turner. The rhythm guitar and bass are interesting as well.
    I remember watching this flick on HBO or Prism (remember that) and that 2 minute clip stood out. Hopefully there's some music historians who know who's playing.
  • chefcraig
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Apr 2004
    • 12172

    #2
    I'd say the chances of it being Cooder are remarkably good, since Nitzsche relied on a relatively small group of players, and Ry was definitely included. Nitzsche also did the soundtrack for Paul Scrader's Blue Collar, which was made the year before. Cooder played on that, so it's likely Nitzsche retained many of the same players for the Hardcore sessions a few months later.

    Along the same lines, you might be interested in checking out this obscurity. It was recorded during the on and off Let It Bleed sessions sometime in 1969, and was released with little fanfare in 1972.



    Here are a couple of tracks via Youtube. Until recently, you could pretty much hear the entire album there.

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    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
    ― Stephen Hawking

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    • Kristy
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 16336

      #3
      Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
      Hardcore - Watch the full feature film now free. - Crackle

      It's at the 35 minute mark. Jack Nitzsche did the music for this as well as Performance with Mick Jagger which has Cooder doing some great work on Memo from Turner. The rhythm guitar and bass are interesting as well.
      I remember watching this flick on HBO or Prism (remember that) and that 2 minute clip stood out. Hopefully there's some music historians who know who's playing.
      I don't think so. When Cooder started doing soundtrack work in the very late 70's early 80's ('The Long Riders' being the first one I know of) he was given advice by Frank Zappa of all people who told him to put your name on "anything and everything you do" not just for legal reasons but they you'll get paid and that people will know who you are.

      The playing alone doesn't sound like Cooder's style; he chooses his soundtrack work carefully and spends a long time recoding what he calls "incidental character background music" (I'm paraphrasing that) where the music adds to the film's character's quirks or situation rather than what John Huges did in his movies which was to play the music loud and and give it a bombastic feel on the screen which really kind of annoyed me (wow, I sound like one of those pretentious New York film hacks, huh?). Anyway, Cooder said he never wants to make his playing style to sound all the same from film to film. For example, when he did the soundtrack to Paris, Texas he was placing various amps in empty swimming pools and miking them through steel air duct tubes to get a "feel" for the barren dirt and desolation in the film. That ideas "just came to him" he said.

      On a side note one amazing guitar player who did a lot of uncredited soundtrack work (mainly for porn films of the 70's) was Mike Bloomfield, the little Jewish kid from Chicago who could - you know, Dylan's guitar player who pissed off all those beardie-weirdie hacks with his over-amplification at their folk festivals. Dylan called him the "greatest guitar player ever" - really? Too bad Bob watered-down his playing style to the bare knuckles of Bloomfield outstanding talent. Bloomfield lived a horrible life as a burnt out and drug addict throughout much of the 70's trying to make a comeback before overdosing. Now, I don't know if that's Bloomfield's playing on the soundtrack you mentioned because I don't think the guy was into slide playing but I bring him up because anybody who wants to know how to play guitar and I mean really wants to learn what balls-out guitar was all about they should listen to Bloomfield. And although I never cared for his tone (a bit too heavy on the treble for me) his leads and fills still give me chills every time I hear him play. Gawd, how I LOVE musicians who can do that without coming across as assholes. This is not the best example of Bloomfield but it'll give you an idea of what he was all about and I tear the neck off of anyone who tells me he sounds like B.B. King.

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      Last edited by Kristy; 02-22-2010, 06:16 PM.

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      • sonrisa salvaje
        Veteran
        • Jun 2005
        • 2098

        #4
        Here at the tracks. Don't know if this helps or not....

        Easy Slider"
        Performed by Mink DeVille
        Courtesy of Capitol Records

        "Guardian Angel"
        Performed by Mink DeVille
        Courtesy of Capitol Records

        "Helpless"
        Performed by Crosby Stills Nash & Young
        Courtesy of Atlantic Records

        "Man's Depravity"
        Words & Music by Larry J. tenHarmsel

        "Precious Memories"
        Performed by Susan Raye
        Courtesy of Buck Owens Enterprises and Capitol Records

        "World I'm Livin' In"
        Performed by Byron Berline & Sundance
        Courtesy of MCA Records
        RIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
        LET `EM ROLL ONE MORE TIME

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