Rumors coming out of the meetings so far today are that it's going to happen, and they just have to decide if it's going to be 14 teams, or 16.
That's interesting.
Everyone is talking about teams like Missouri, Texas, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse...
It could be all five teams...
I know Notre Dame will be in the discussion too. I think ND would want to be at the forefront of potential mega conferences...
I also get the impression that they are going to wait this process out...
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I think ND actually benefits from being independent, I don't think they'll make a move.
IF the Big 11 add 1 team, wouldn't that force a championship game?
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Notre Dame gets $15 million a year via TV money as it stands right now. The Big 10 teams get $22 million. Now, add say Notre Dame, Texas, Pitt, Syracuse and Missouri or Rutgers...and go 16 teams...or 14...or as you said...12 teams.
That adds ND to the equation, and a championship game.
Revenue goes up.
For the first time in the history of ND...there's been talk that they might HAVE to do it. They have been going back and forth...likely trying to drum up something.
My guess is that if the Big 10 is hustling right now to do this, instead of waiting a year and a half, as originally speculated, that ND and/or Texas are involved, and they don't want to miss out on one or the other.
Or...this could have been their plan from the start...to say a year or more...then do it in six months, to keep other conferences from stealing their thunder.
Smart either way...
ND gets 15 mil on it's own, and The Big 10 gets 22 mil...each team, or combined? If combined, ND is making some serious cheese on it's own as it is. Why would they want to share that with the Big 10? But on the other hand, their stock has been falling due to shitty performances, so I could understand the sudden interest in joining a conference.
Wouldn't ND have to say goodbye to their annual USC ass-kicking, er, "rivalry game"?
Let 'em in, I say. Pitt too. Dump Minnesota.
22 mil. on their own.Originally Posted by hideyoursheep
ND would be a great fit, it has rivalries with Penn state, scUM, MSU, Northwestern (since been dissolved), and Purdue already. and I believe if they joined the big ten, that a rivalry with the Buckeyes would develop rather quickly.
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Pitt's been rumored to be the at least one of them for about two months now....
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Pitt apparently had a meeting with every student athlete on campus back in december in regards to probably joining the big 10, bunch of football players of theirs tweeted about it, but quickly deleted them.
Pitt and Notre Dame would be better fits than Texas, being as they both are in the same region. I don't know why Texas is even being considered. They are too far away from all the other schools and there would be too much travel involved in that.
I get that Texas is an elite school that is annually in the national championship picture, and that's why the Big 10/11 would want them in their conference, but it doesn't make any sense from a logistics/geographical standpoint.
That kinda sucks that Indiana gets the same cut as tOSU. Do they really deserve that much TV revenue? Really?
...unless this includes basketball, then maybe.
I hate basketball.
I'd say immediately. I'd kinda miss pulling for ND while playing M*ch*g*n.ND would be a great fit, it has rivalries with Penn state, scUM, MSU, Northwestern (since been dissolved
Now as far a Pitt.....their home games are at Heinz Field? That could cause problems when playing The Buckeyes or Penn St.
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ND is going to get extorted and will join. The Big 10 is going to destroy the Big East. A super-conference indeed!
IMO, it could eventually have a negative impact on UT's entire program.
I'd love to see Texas in the Big 10, however.
I think the only way they go after Texas...is if they go after two or three midwest teams. As far as travel goes...
aren't there such things as planes?
You add Missouri...and say..Texas Tech and Texas...along with the Northern Midwest teams like the cheds, Iowa, Minny...
for example..and it wouldn't be perfect...but not all that bad either. They'd have to travel some...but nothing more than they likely do now.
We're not talking about ten games here.
As far as Notre Dame...it would just be like them to wait for the Big East to get mauled...then join the Big East as the top dog...
rumblings that the ACC is wanting to pick apart the rest of the Big East...
Pitt has been rumored for nearly as long as Notre Dame...
Right after the ACC add-ons of Miami and BC...the Big 10 was talking Notre Dame and/or Pitt...
and Crazy-Ass Joe-Pa has been clamoring for it for years as well...
Right now, each Big 10 team gets 22 million...but if they roll out a super conference...that will jump up considerably...10 to 15 million a team...I'd bet...
Are there any teams in the MAC that would be worth pulling in, in your opinion?
Nah, Pitt can barely sellout Heinz Field as it is, even when they play WVU nowadays... They'd welcome playing OSU and of course PSU....
Don't count out that Texas thing. It makes sense on so many levels.
The key is the Big 10 network. It just prints cash.
That's my point, VA. It would stop being a "home game".
Well...I'm a MAC fan, especially with all those Ohio teams in there...but I'd first be curious to see if tOSU would LET any of those teams in. With regards to recruiting, it would infringe on tOSU's stranglehold on recruiting...
and if tOSU says no...so does the Big 10.
With that said...a team like Temple, in Philly, would be a good match with say...Rutgers. I'm not sure what kind of crown Temple draws, but being in Philly, and being in the Big 10...well...
Okay...this is getting fun.
The Big 12 is about to disappear...which I think is funny as all hell.
The Big 10 announces expansion...sort of...presumably Missouri, Nebraska, Pitt and Rutgers, with a wildcard team out there (I vote for West Virginia or Syracuse, but that's just me)
The Pac 10 piggy backs like the bitches they are, and say the same thing.
The Big 10 squirts out thoughts of Texas...
Now...the Pac 10 threatens to take six Big 12 teams, with Texas one of them...
Who gets Texas?
Personally, I think the Big 10 is orchestrating the whole thing to scare Notre Dame into accepting a bid. I don't think they want Texas. What they want are Super Conferences. You'll have the Pac 10 going to 16 teams...
You know the SEC and ACC will follow suit...poaching from the Big East, the Big 12, and all the little conferences around.
If Notre Dame gets left out...well...
I say fuck 'em.
I hope they are on the outside looking in...
fuck it, just merge parts of the Big XII North, and the Big East to create The Big 24
Samuel Adams Brewery Division
Boston College
UConn
Sryacuse
Rutgers
Heinz Ketchup Division
Penn State
Pitt
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Great Lakes Brewery Division
Ohio St
Michigan
Michigan St.
Notre Dame
Dad's Root Beer Division
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois
Northwestern
Miller Light Division
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Iowa St.
Omaha Insurance Division
Missouri
Nebraska
Kansas
Kansas St.
Top two teams meet up in Indianapolis to decide who gets a spot in the Rose Bowl.
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Nebraska and Missouri have until Friday to make up their minds about the Big 10. The Big 10, likely hasn't offered yet, so they could be left high and dry.
but...
Nebraska is already leaning towards the Big 10...so I'd have to imagine there have been back-room talks already...
Look for Nebraska to make up their minds soon...and it will be the Big 10...
then all the fun starts...
Who else besides Nebraska is the latest rumor for the Big 10 ?
Nebraska will be a nice add, though...
The givens...Va, appear to be Nebraska, Missouri, Rutgers...
Then the rumors start, and it hinges on Notre Dame.
I DON'T think Notre Dame will join...I think the plan for Notre Dame is to wait out the major conference shits, then either piece together a major conference they can control from the teams that are left...or just stay independent.
That said...the rumors stand at Syracuse and Pitt. I'd prefer West Virginia over Syracuse...bu that's just me. The thoughts of having WVU, Pitt and Penn State in the same division in the Big 10 conference is enticing, to say the least...but my guess is that the market WVU brings isn't much, and truth is, Pitt brings it.
If I were the big 10, I'd also consider Kansas and Kansas St....
they're not getting either
K-State isn't a part of the AAU
I'm hoping they add missouri, pitt, Syracuse, and Notre Dame., Would kill to see a Purdue or Ohio State play Pitt within 3 hours of my house and with plenty seats available!
Rumors have Texas and Texas A&M joining the Big "10".
I read that about the AAU to, and of course...Notre Dame isn't in the AAU either...
This is nothing against the Pac 10. I've never been a fan, but I'm not trying to knock it...
the Pac 10 can't offer what the Big 10 can.
The money is bigger, and now, with USC castrated, the Pac 10 doesn't have nearly the cred. I'm not trying to knock it, just stating the facts. The Big 12 is done with Nebraska joining the B10...and Missouri likely to follow. Why wouldn't Texas want to join the Big 10? Texas Tech would have to be a part as the Longhorns primary in-state rival.
If it does happen though...wow...Texas is going to take an in-state hit with regards to Baylor, Texas A&M and the rest...
The funny thing is that Oklahoma isn't in the mix. Why in the hell would the Big 10 grab Nebraska, Missouri, Texas and Texas Tech...
and not grab Oklahoma.
If I were the Okies, I'd be rolling with the SEC...seems a natural fit.
Hell, if I were the SEC...I'd be going after Texas and Oklahoma...
Nix everything I said about Tech, and change it to A&M...I wasn't paying attention...
Interesting...Colorado announces they are moving to the Pac 10...
card #2 falls, and one of the teams that was questioned.
Hmmm...who's next?
The funny thing here is that by this time tomorrow, all the cards could fall...
Who's next? The big watch is on Texas...pac or big?
and what about Notre Dame? Are they waiting on the Big 10?...are they waiting on the Big East? Are they going to stay indy? Or, are they going to pick up whatever teams are left, and form their own conference?
Missouri hasn't been contacted by the Big 10...hmmm...a ruse?
We would love to have Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC. We are going crazy down here speculating. 2 legendary programs added into the mix means bigger games, paydays, etc. but it is hard enough to make it through the season unbeaten already with what we have now. If Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU and Auburn were in the western division, it would be an absolute nightmare. The Pac 10 seems a little more ripe for the picking in the way of conference strength.
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It's not about conference strength, but about who brings the most money...you're right...it would be murder...
but they'd all be laughing to the bank...
It's official, Nebraska is a member of the Big Ten. They were unanimously voted in, and want to become full-fledge members in 2011 and 2012. Texas is up to bat next, and the Big 10 is yelling about "home runs." There's no doubt in my mind that the Pac 10 and Big 10 are fighting this one out.
Oklahoma is going to wherever Texas goes. They will not play in the SEC.
I really don't think that's going to happen.
I would say that it's safe to say that the Longhorns aren't going to the Big 10. Apparently Nebraska and Texas have been hammering each other, because Nebraska has been looking for a TV Network deal similar to the Big 10's, but Texas holds it back because of their own personal TV deal. It's similar to Notre Dame. Now, Texas has some cards to play. Do they stay in the Big 12, and hold the conference together, or do they jump shit to the Pac 10, whose TV deal stinks. Will the Pac 10 let Texas keep their contract?...crazy times indeed...
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