White And Conservative? Must Be A Racist

[knuckleboner]

You need to open your eyes and ears to the State-Run Media...and columnists in the NYT, WashPo, etc.

trust me, i have.

like i said, many prominent people have made opposition to various parts of obama’s agenda. they don’t get called racist by any but a few commentators, who, like limbaugh and beck, care less about the truth than they do about being attention whores.

was carter wrong for calling joe wilson’s cry racist? eh, i disagree with jimmy. but i see the point. southern white congressman yells at black president. anybody who says “that must be racist,” is wrong. anybody who says “it could be racist,” well, fair enough. though, again, i don’t think it was, nor would i have probably questioned it on a racial basis.

but, how many editorials questioning the constitutionality of the individual mandate have been called racist? how many claiming the stimulus funding has done little to create new jobs have been labeled racist? answer, not many.

unless of course they also say things like, “he’s not my president.” or, “barrack HUSSEIN obama,” etc. those aren’t inherently racist. but i can tell you that if a conservative white Christian thows those kinds of things into the mix when opposing policies, or more, simply opposing that “nazi socialist,” then yes, i’m going to start questioning their arguments.

[Blaze]

I'm too rich to get into heaven according to the Jesus story anyway.

I also have no intention of giving all my money to the poor, just my taxes.

Oh, well let me introduce you to the Peaceful system.


A 2.5% flat rate is the tax is bestowed upon accepting Peace exists.
If you choose not to accept Peace exists, your tax rate is based off of whatever belief system or the standard 2.5%, which ever is higher.
There is no interest applied to any loans, flat fees is the only legal option.
That is the Peaceful financial system.

[jhale667]

I'm actually astonished ELVIS didn't go for the "Satan can quote scripture better than most" reference...he's slipping.

[Guitar Shark]

Oh, well let me introduce you to the Peaceful taxation.


A 2% flat rate is the tax is bestowed upon accepting Peace exists.
If you choose not to accept Peace exists, your tax rate is based off of whatever belief system or the standard 2% which ever is higher.
There is no interest applied to any loans, flat fees is the only legal option.
That is the Peaceful financial system.

Please start taking your meds again.

[Blaze]

Please start taking your meds again.

What you dislike 2% of your yearly total wealth as billing standard?
And have issue with a flat money fee?
I suspect you are of the charlatanism.

[Blaze]

Or excuse me for being so rude, Perhaps you do not believe in Peacefulness.
You are welcome to your beliefs.

[Guitar Shark]

Thank you for your permission. I believe that you are a nutjob.

[chefcraig]

I suspect you are of the charlatanism.

Do you speak like this in real life, and if so, how did you get used to all of the quizzical expressions coming your way?

[Blackflag]

[Blaze]

I am amused at who is stepping forward.

[Jesus Christ]

I guess it's easier to play Messiah on the internet all day and bitch that the government doesn't collect enough taxes for your welfare check, than to just go get a fucking job.

I wonder what Ford's going to do when he gets to heaven and finds the BCE there.

The BCE are murderers, liars and blasphemers. I assure you, they will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

[Blackflag]

I thought you said we weren't supposed to judge, Ford? Are you a hypocrite, or just fucking stupid?

Judge not Pibbles, lest ye be judged.

[Jesus Christ]

I am THE Judge

[Blackflag]

I guess that's the latter...

[Jesus Christ]

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." - 2 Corinthians 5:10

What part of that do ye not understand?

[LoungeMachine]

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." - 2 Corinthians 5:10

What part of that do ye not understand?

Did Jesus insist on fine Corinthian leather, like Ricardo Montobaum?

[Jesus Christ]

Did Jesus insist on fine Corinthian leather, like Ricardo Montobaum?

One of the cool things about being the Son of God, is that I can get anything in Corinthian leather, and need not even kill any cows to do so.

[chefcraig]

I thought Corinthian Leather was an advertising term for Naugahyde?

[Jesus Christ]

That may be how Chrysler did it, but verily it is not how Christ rolls

[LoungeMachine]

Christler don't play that.

[Seshmeister]

Oh, well let me introduce you to the Peaceful system.


A 2.5% flat rate is the tax is bestowed upon accepting Peace exists.
If you choose not to accept Peace exists, your tax rate is based off of whatever belief system or the standard 2.5%, which ever is higher.
There is no interest applied to any loans, flat fees is the only legal option.
That is the Peaceful financial system.

Unfortunately here on planet Earth 2.5% won't be enough to pay for the social services, education, roads and healthcare I want.

Even worse I feel a bit short of cash this month so I'm going to choose not to accept peace exists and instead choose to accept The Flying Spaghetti Monster this year because being a human I am a hypocrite and a bit crap so need to be coerced a bit to pay taxes for the good.

[Blaze]

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[Seshmeister]

Did Jesus insist on fine Corinthian leather, like Ricardo Montobaum?

I think it's included under the section 'Bits the church added later to justify 2000 years of living in luxury'.

Like the parable of 'Fuck the Poor and give me your money' which doesn't seem to fit with most of the rest.

John 12:1-11
Six days before the Passover, Jesus arrived at Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus had raised from the dead. There a dinner was given in Jesus’ honor. Martha served, while Lazarus was among those reclining at the table with him. Then Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, "Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.
"Leave her alone," Jesus replied. "It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me." Meanwhile a large crowd of Jews found out that Jesus was there and came, not only because of him but also to see Lazarus, whom he had raised from the dead. So the chief priests made plans to kill Lazarus as well, for on account of him many of the Jews were going over to Jesus and putting their faith in him. (NIV)

[Blackflag]

Even worse I feel a bit short of cash this month so I'm going to choose not to accept peace exists and instead choose to accept The Flying Spaghetti Monster this year because being a human I am a hypocrite and a bit crap so need to be coerced a bit to pay taxes for the good.

It's wry wit like that that brought us Benny Hill and Mr. Bean.

[Seshmeister]

I did hear that they were hugely popular in the US.

Benny Hill hasn't been shown here since the early 80s, it was deemed crass and sexist.

[Blaze]

Unfortunately here on planet Earth 2.5% won't be enough to pay for the social services, education, roads and healthcare I want.

Even worse I feel a bit short of cash this month so I'm going to choose not to accept peace exists and instead choose to accept The Flying Spaghetti Monster this year because being a human I am a hypocrite and a bit crap so need to be coerced a bit to pay taxes for the good.

Still a base of 2.5 accepting or not,

Do you really think 2.5 % of Earth's total monetary wealth yearly is not enough? I am just joshing, but surly 2.5% glean of world assets would ... well to be honest, I never though of this in a world fashion. Seems just getting Suade to cover their 2.5 with the world would be a huge difference.

[Blackflag]

You heard wrong.

[Blaze]

I wonder what the world gross product is, now that you mentioned it.

[Blaze]

I am not fond of monetary things, monetary systems seems so arbitrary.

[Blaze]

How does one measure the production value of a planetary system.

[kwame k]

There's a Gross World Product...........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_world_product

A World Gross Product???? Gotta imagine aborted fetuses are pretty gross

[Blackflag]

[Blaze]

There's a Gross World Product...........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_world_product

A World Gross Product???? Gotta imagine aborted fetuses are pretty gross

4200 Per capita, even in America is significant.

[kwame k]

Sure, if it was 4,200 beers on the wall.......

[Ally_Kat]

Art thou addressing such comments to Me?

For I hath many jobs:

Son of God, Son of man, Messiah, Lord, Savior, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, King of the Jews, the Great Physician, etc.

Hey JC! Why, yes, you did have many jobs. One of them was as a carpenter. You didn't spent all your days traveling around. You actually had a business and a house and tools and Judas was your accountant. You had an accountant because you paid taxes...on the income you earned from your business. Your accountant stole from your finances. It's in your book. Surprised it's not mentioned more often.

It's also in your book how you and your buds helped the poor with contributions given by followers (funnily enough those funds were NOT handled by Judas). The Luke community tends to emphasize the womenfolk doing this, but I don't need to tell you that that's because they were dealing with a lot of issues in the women being abused and killed arena. Other books tend to even out the gender participation.

And hey - while I have your attention and we're talking about money -- how come people are so quick to point out every other contradiction in the Bible, but they shy away from the money contradiction? You tended to the poor during the day, but you ate dinners with the wealthy at night. You tell some wealthy people to give up all they have to the poor, but you tell other wealthy people to keep their money for their families...several times and all within verses of each other! It seems to be that the wealthy people who made no charitable contributions with money or time were told to give up everything, but those that were wealthy and did spend some sort helping where told to keep their riches. And why does no one talk about how you didn't want the government to be in charge of charity because you can't trust a government to do it and that charity was suppose to be by the followers on their own accord (with free will!) because they were the ones who would best take care of your flock?

[Seshmeister]

Nice but you are kidding yourself.

Firstly in the primative times that Jesus was meant to be wandering around you can't compare the government structures to the ones of today. A huge corrupt imperial army occupying a country and milking it.

Actually maybe not a great example given Iraq.

Apart from a few notable exceptions like Gates charitable giving is irrelevant compared to government pooling resources to give. For example Bob Geldof said that he got more money from a 15 minute meeting with the French president than all of the years of Band Aid/Live Aid combined.

Ironically Bush was able to give huge amounts of money to Africa.

Basically what you are saying is that it is better for you to give money to the church who then use it to pay the lawyers in their pedophilia cases than for everyone to pay a little more into a central pot which is used to provide proper healthcare your poor neighbors who at present are dying in their tens of thousands because of a lack of it.

The money they don't spend on pedophilia is then used to spread wicked dogma. We'll feed you if you become future customers. We'll give you medicine if you attend classes where we tell you not to use contraception meaning you are over populated and Aids ridden, perfect breeding ground for a death cult.

[ELVIS]

Cut the catholicism out and she's correct...

[Seshmeister]

So you are saying all christians were wrong for the first 1600 years but a minority of them are right now?

[ELVIS]

No, but how were they wrong for 1600 years ??

If you're talking about catholics, yes, they evolved into something very much like pharisees in my opinion...

[Seshmeister]

You seem to think catholicism is wrong and that's all there used to be.

In fact christians could get a bit stressed about that and set you on fire if you didn't agree.