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    Balls, rope, pumping, blowout, junk. LOL! It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    If neither procedure works, BP will be forced to revert to ideas like a containment dome to try to stop the leak.
    revert....ideas like......try to stop. not, "luckily, bp has started building a worse case scenario dome the minute this disaster started 5 weeks ago". or "all drilling companies have pre-built containment domes within 100 miles of all rigs, as required by law."
    Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    If this happened in Communist China, they would just sentence the BP CEO to death, then take him outside he court house and put a slug in his head.
    China is going more capitalist and we are going marxist. In China they don't tax your savings, it's easier to start a small business there actually than here. The Bank of China is actually the only decently ran central bank on the planet. Sadly I think all the new energy breakthroughs are going to happen in Asia. China is actually investing and building high speed rail and alternative energy facilities as I speak. They are into everything from old solar and wind technologies to cutting edge stuff like zero point and fission.

    If the US stays on it's current course we are going to be an old dilapidated communist rust bucket. Exactly what China is trying to systematically escape from.

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    I'm a share holder in a company that makes bio diesel from agricultural waste and algae. No food production is wasted and the technology gets better and better. The company is going to make fuel from algae that grows in the great salt lake and that facility will come on line this summer. Our biggest customer today is the US Air Force. They are running all the jets at Mountain Home Air Force Base on a 50/50 bio diesel/kerosene mix and it's working fine. This is a trial program. The Air Force wants new fuel alternatives so they don't have to be dependent on imported oil to run their fleet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Troubles View Post
    US citizens will pay for it. BP will pay, then file a chapter 11, Gov. bails them out, tax payers pay the Gov. Its been the American way for quite some time.
    Dude. BP made over $4 Trillion last year. They aren't going to go broke plus they are a multinational corporation ran out of Great Britian. Why should we give them a penny? What's broke is the US Government. BP isn't broke. Far from it.

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    I love the Russians. Nuke the fucking well. LOL!

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    I love the Russians. Nuke the fucking well. LOL!

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    i just wanna puke..

    At a Coast Guard hearing that started earlier this month and continued in New Orleans on Wednesday, Doug Brown, chief rig mechanic aboard the platform, testified that the trouble began at a meeting hours before the blowout, with a "skirmish" between a BP official and rig workers who did not want to replace heavy drilling fluid in the well with saltwater.
    The switch presumably would have allowed the company to remove the fluid and use it for another project, but the seawater would have provided less weight to counteract the surging pressure from the ocean depths.
    Brown said the BP official, whom he identified only as the "company man," overruled the drillers, declaring, "This is how it's going to be." Brown said the top Transocean official on the rig grumbled, "Well, I guess that's what we have those pinchers for," which he took to be a reference to devices on the blowout preventer, the five-story piece of equipment that can slam a well shut in an emergency.
    In a handwritten statement to the Coast Guard obtained by the AP, Transocean rig worker Truitt Crawford said: "I overheard upper management talking saying that BP was taking shortcuts by displacing the well with saltwater instead of mud without sealing the well with cement plugs, this is why it blew out."

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    Obama inherited the financial and war mess from Clinton and Bush but his down fall was signing that healthcare bill nobody wanted into law and now his lack of any kind of leadership and competence on this oil spill disaster will finish him off. He's nothing more than a salesman with a lot of media power behind him. The man has never ran anything in his life and he's no leader.

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    Two teams of scientists calculated the well has been spewing between 504,000 and more than a million gallons a day. Even using the most conservative estimate, that means nearly 18 million gallons have spilled so far. In the worst-case scenario, 39 million gallons have leaked.
    That larger figure would be nearly four times the size of the Exxon Valdez disaster, in which a tanker ran aground in Alaska in 1989, spilling nearly 11 million gallons.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100527/...gulf_oil_spill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Obama inherited the financial and war mess from Clinton and Bush but his down fall was signing that healthcare bill nobody wanted into law and now his lack of any kind of leadership and competence on this oil spill disaster will finish him off. He's nothing more than a salesman with a lot of media power behind him. The man has never ran anything in his life and he's no leader.
    You seem to have the impression that your president is some sort of god role where they can control everything and fix any problem.

    With all the checks and balances and a congress where the politicians have to spend 4 or 5 hours a day on the phone asking big business for campaign funds I think you overestimate his power vastly.

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    Keith Olbermann just interviewed the father and brother of one of the men killed on the oil rig. His job was a "mud driller" and they remember him talking about "things coming up that shouldn't be" from the doomed well, like chunks of rubber and other debris that obviously wasn't oil or natural gas.

    Fucking goddamn greedy pieces of shit knew there were problems with the well and did nothing.
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    The problem with this whole situation, besides the horrific ecologic damage, is that the government is going to get involved financially. No, they haven't been involved in any way since day one despite what Barry and his Admin parrots say.

    Since BP is a British corporation, any financial burden that goes beyond BP should be passed on to the taxpayers of the UK. They won't mind a little more out of their already over-taxed paychecks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Scientists accuse Obama over oil spill

    Expert claims NOAA is guilty of a 'catastrophic failure'



    Tensions between the Obama administration and the scientific community over the gulf oil spill are escalating, with prominent oceanographers accusing the government of failing to conduct an adequate scientific analysis of the damage and of allowing BP to obscure the spill’s true scope.

    The scientists assert that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and other agencies have been slow to investigate the magnitude of the spill and the damage it is causing in the deep ocean.

    They are especially concerned about getting a better handle on problems that may be occurring from large plumes of oil droplets that appear to be spreading beneath the ocean surface.

    The scientists point out that in the month since the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded, the government has failed to make public a single test result on water from the deep ocean.

    And the scientists say the administration has been too reluctant to demand an accurate analysis of how many gallons of oil are flowing into the sea from the gushing oil well.

    “It seems baffling that we don’t know how much oil is being spilled,” Sylvia Earle, a famed oceanographer, said Wednesday on Capitol Hill. “It seems baffling that we don’t know where the oil is in the water column.”

    Story continues


    I love that you rush to post this when "scientists" are critical of Obama, but you deny the existence of global warming that is likely supported by the same scientists.
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    I didn't "rush" to post anything. What I did do is simply provide an article to the discussion, cuntselor...

    Global warming (as "climate change" used to be referred to) is a political smoke and mirrors campaign to push Cap and Trade and also to undermine the world's energy infastructure...



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    Infrastucture, even...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Infrastucture, even...
    Or, infrastructure

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    I'm posting outside while I wire up my outbuilding and I can't see the screen in the sun...

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    I find it incredible that anyone who lives in the middle of a fucking hurricane zone could STILL deny the existence of global climate change.

    Well guess what Elvis? This years hurricanes oughta be extra special. It will be raining oil this time.

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    Hurricanes are nothing new, algore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Hurricanes are nothing new, algore...
    No, but hurricanes are caused by warm currents in the ocean and the gulf. And the warmer those currents get, the worse the hurricanes are.

    And as I said, now you'll have oilcaines.

    Maybe they should just name all of the hurricanes after oil companies this year?

    Hurricane ARCO
    Hurricane BP
    Hurricane Conoco
    Hurricane Dutch Shell
    Hurricane Exxon

    and so forth, using the usual alphabetical naming pattern.

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    Here's the truth regarding Obama's photo op in Port Fourchon today...

    People were bussed in, in matching chothes (red shirts, blue pants and white shrimp boots), placed on the beach with rakes to appear to be cleaning up, and they were gone as soon as Obama was...



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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Here's the truth regarding Obama's photo op in Port Fourchon today...

    People were bussed in, in matching chothes (red shirts, blue pants and white shrimp boots), placed on the beach with rakes to appear to be cleaning up, and they were gone as soon as Obama was...


    Is that the rumor at the hospital, Eldouchbag?

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    No, I saw it...

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    A white sandy Gulf coast beach with a hot chick. Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I didn't "rush" to post anything. What I did do is simply provide an article to the discussion, cuntselor...

    Global warming (as "climate change" used to be referred to) is a political smoke and mirrors campaign to push Cap and Trade and also to undermine the world's energy infastructure...


    Yup. It was pretty much a scam set up by certain members of the Rothchild's family and the Russians blew it wide open at the Copenhagen summit. There is climate change in the whole solar system actually not just on this planet due an unusual solar minimum, weak solar wind, and a weak electromagnetic field around the earth. It's much larger than CO2 emissions and in fact, if we have a couple large volcano eruptions we could actually cool off. The world is changing. Maybe Jesus is going to come back. Who knows, all I know is I don't want to be a slave to some European bankers because they can tax the shit out of energy, ration it, and send inspectors into my home and businesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You seem to have the impression that your president is some sort of god role where they can control everything and fix any problem.

    With all the checks and balances and a congress where the politicians have to spend 4 or 5 hours a day on the phone asking big business for campaign funds I think you overestimate his power vastly.
    The president is commander and chief of the US military. He can get on the phone and start the ball rolling immediately. Get some leadership in the area and hell, have civilian volunteers help. We did this sandbagging the Snake River when it flooded. The president of the United States have more power than ever with all the executive orders they have. Homeland Security and FEMA are pretty much a mess but the Navy and Coast Guard know how to put in oil barrier and there are lot's of fishermen in the area that could help. What Obama can do is break the red tape himself. He's the fucking president and can give orders directly and following up on what is being done. A competent president would run circles around this bum.

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    I've worked in the corporate environment where you deal with multiple divisions. We had a serious problem with the retailers getting product before the sales force was even trained or knew that the products had been shipped. My supervisor and supervisor's boss couldn't get anything done due to the whole complicated and divided structure of the company. I went to a wedding and at the reception I ran into one of the vice presidents of the company. I mentioned the problem to him and he didn't even know there was a problem and said he would take care of it. He made one phone call and the problem was solved. It's called authority. When you are a cog in the machine the other cogs don't care about you but when the orders come from the top, things happen. This is executive power and it's very powerful if used correctly. It's even easier when everyone wants to fix the problem. A good president knows what kind of power he has and uses it carefully and sparingly when needed. It's called taking charge and leading. You might have to be a salesman and an actor to get elected but once you are in office, to do the job you need to be a leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    No, I saw it...
    And no one from the Internets recorded it. Wow! That's one hell of a conspiracy!
    Wait, you are from the internets! Wot? oN record, bugs?
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    I thought hurricanes only happened when the repubs were in office?

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    Oh that's right, if you haven't lived on the gulf you wouldn't know, I was there before anyone cared. 4 baby you can't stop them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    And no one from the Internets recorded it. Wow! That's one hell of a conspiracy!
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    The U.S. gov't is opening a criminal probe of BP...

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    The U.S. gov't is opening a criminal probe of BP...
    they should open one on themselves..http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/...spill_new_well

    Obama last week extended a moratorium on wells in deep water like the BP one that blew out a mile below the surface in April and is gushing millions of gallons of oil. But at the same time, the president quietly allowed a three-week-old ban on drilling in shallow water to expire.
    "I'm outraged," said Kieran Suckling, executive director for the Tucson, Ariz.,-based Center for Biological Diversity, after a reporter told him of the new permit. "How is it that shallow water drilling suddenly became safe again?"
    Bandon Oil and Gas first sought the permit in April shortly after the Deepwater Horizon exploded and sank. The permit was approved Wednesday morning, according to MMS records.

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