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    Alex Van Halen

    Don't know if you guys have seen this?
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    Practically joined at the hip to his brother Eddie, nephew Wolfgang, and David Lee Roth, Alex Van Halen has finally returned to the road with the band that bears his name. It’s been four years since the last Van Halen tour, but in their time the band has traveled a million miles.

    Van Halen has always been more of a pure rock ’n’ roll act than anything else. Mega-hits like “Jump,” “Dance The Night Away,” “Panama,” “Runnin’ With The Devil,” “Pretty Woman,” and “Hot For Teacher” are hardcore party anthems for a generation that ignored disco and punk. For those loyal fans, Van Halen constituted a rite of passage, a fun-loving band that partied as hard as they rocked–and their ability to rock was never in question.

    As Eddie Van Halen strangled his guitar through all manner of hammering, slashing, and maniacal speedball eruptions, brother Alex laid down a bombastic groove of titanic proportions, typically on a colossal drumset fortified by double bass drums, Octobans, and percussion. And while he often cited Ginger Baker and Buddy Rich as seminal influences, Alex’s drumming was always larger than life, thrusting through Van Halen’s music with the energy of an angry tank, matching Eddie’s blitzkrieg style with equally assaultive note choices.

    Alex Van Halen never cited John Bonham as a pure influence, but the sound was always there. Perhaps more so than any drummer from the early 1980s to the present, Alex Van Halen inherited the Bonham mantle. Of course, Alex’s double bass drum machinations were purely of his own design, as were his typically mammoth drumsets. But the spirit of Van Halen’s drum work was, like Bonham, built from the ground up, with the deeply entrenched ability (his dad was a big band musician) to swing a rock groove like a tornado tearing down a city street.

    Now reunited on the road with original lead singer David Lee Roth, and playing their quintessential hits for the first time in twenty-two years, Van Halen has restored a sense of what real rock ’n’ roll can be when played by a band of oversized personalities.

    “We grew up together,” Alex says from a New York hotel room. “Dave, Eddie, and I were the main architects of the band. The bonds you make when you’re younger…well…there’s a different kind of dynamic in those relationships. The creative thing was always a tension between the three of us. It’s fortunately still there and hasn’t become stagnant. That’s what keeps it alive.”

    What keeps it alive might also be what tears it apart. Rumors flew hot and heavy around Van Halen’s 2007 tour, and with Roth back and original bassist Michael Anthony gone, the group dynamic was said to be in a convulsive state. But calling their 2007 tour “A moment in time and space all in one place,” Alex Van Halen hit the stage of the Meadowlands, New Jersey arena as though it was still 1984.

    Van Halen is not a grizzled tribute act, but a hard-won touring band whose music still sounds vital and fresh. Alex will allude to the inevitability of a new record, but he lives in the here and now. Consequently the drum solo that follows “Pretty Woman” is not some nostalgic flashback, but a nearly freeform improv epic that shows off both his bass drum technique and his organizational skills.

    Alex Van Halen is a superior drummer today to the one who played the galloping double bass drum intro to “Hot For Teacher” (his kicks are cleaner), or the pile driving flam/bass drum rolls of The Who cover “Magic Bus” (his stickings are higher, his technique more supple). His wrists are like pistons, his legs like bionic battering rams.

    “I read some old Buddy Rich interviews,” Alex says, in reply to a question about technique. “When asked, ‘Do you warm up before you play?’ Buddy said, ‘Yes, I take my hands out of my pockets.’ No matter how questions get answered, it boils down to this essence: When you make music you try to be as in the moment as possible. Of course, you rehearse. But there’s enough room to make every night different.”

    Though rumors about Eddie’s health and temperament abound, when Van Halen took the Meadowlands stage, all thoughts of former bass players and past problems faded away. And at the center of the storm, in touch with the past but living in the present, Alex showed maturity mixed with equal parts good humor and unabashed, over-the-top exhilaration.

    Drumming as perfect therapy and spiritual release in the here and now? Alex Van Halen’s got it locked.

    MD: It’s been a long while since the last Van Halen tour. What did you do to get back in road shape?

    Alex: Ed and I play every day. So I didn’t have to get back in shape. Ed has the 5150 Studios on his property in Studio City; we have a routine. It’s the one forced discipline that we have. We play once a day, every day. We play for a couple of hours, sometimes less, sometimes more. Sometimes things evolve. Ed has ideas, and often something I’m playing will trigger an idea. But there’s no goal in mind. It’s not, “Let’s pretend to be creative and make a record.”

    MD: What’s your setup at the studio? How many bass drums?

    Alex: The only reason I use two bass drums at all is because my right foot just isn’t fast enough for some of the stuff I like to do, especially some of the shuffles. When it comes down to what you really, really need when you’re playing, you use your hi-hat, snare, ride, and kick drum. Honestly, I think the more gear you have, the less creative you’ll be.

    Normally in the studio I use a snare, a kick, a hi-hat, and a cymbal–and maybe one tom. When you’re trying to be creative, I’ve found that a smaller setup–and varying it up–helps. Otherwise you fall into the same old patterns. And you can be distracted by too much stuff.

    MD: Is this a strong band or a fragile band? We hear stories about Eddie’s health and temperament on the road, and his relationship with David Lee Roth….

    Alex: None of it is true.

    MD: So everything is solid and straight-ahead?

    Alex: That’s not true either. I preface everything by saying that we were in high school when we first got together. You put Ed, Dave, and me in a room and one of us is going to come out bloody. And that’s what makes it great. That element is still there. Music is an emotional thing. I’m not saying you need to be overbearing or disrespectful. But I am saying that our nature is such that we tend to overlap in how we get things done.

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    I don't think Bonham was an influence at all...

    The influence I hear is from Carmine Appice and Cactus...



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    Cool read....hopefully their creative differences create a new album!

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    Do you have a date on t his?

    Oh dear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I don't think Bonham was an influence at all...

    The influence I hear is from Carmine Appice and Cactus...



    Yeah, I don't hear Bonham either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I don't think Bonham was an influence at all...

    The influence I hear is from Carmine Appice and Cactus...


    Appice toured with Led Zeppelin as an opening act in the Vanilla Fudge. Carmine has said in interviews that Bonham freely admitted to being influenced by Appice, particularly Appice's drum work on the group's cover of "Ticket To Ride". Bonham would duplicate one of the more demanding fills played on a double bass drum set with a single bass drum. So it really boils down to the order of who influenced who. You could also argue that although Led Zeppelin was far more popular to fans than the Fudge were, Appice's work with Cactus (and later in Beck Bogert & Appice) was equally influential on a generation of drummers.









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    I dig me some Cactus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indeedido View Post
    I dig me some Cactus.
    Me, too. You really have to wonder what would have happened if Beck didn't have that car wreck, since the original idea was to have Bogert and Appice join the Jeff Beck Group with Rod Stewart on vocals. Then again, it's hard to imagine Stewart being able to keep up with that fast, hard hitting boogie. Besides, we might not have ever heard The Faces.

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    Van Halen kicks so much ass I get a black eye every time I crank it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes, Sensible View Post
    Do you have a date on t his?
    I think this is around Nov 3, 2007..

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAiN View Post
    I think this is around Nov 3, 2007..
    I figured the initials "MD" stood for Modern Drummer. Sure enough, it's from the March 2008 issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    I figured the initials "MD" stood for Modern Drummer. Sure enough, it's from the March 2008 issue.

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    February 5 2008 issue
    http://vhfrance.activebb.net/ (1 er Site Francophone sur Van Halen)

    http://www.youtube.com/user/VHFranceVideos (Our new Channel)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaijuju View Post
    February 5 2008 issue
    Try clicking the link.

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    i found this on classicvh

    (Los Angeles, CA) December 13, 2007 - VAN HALEN'S explosive drummer ALEX VAN HALEN talks in an exclusive interview with Modern Drummer magazine about helming the heavy artillery in the iconic band. The extensive 21-page story hits newsstands on February 5.

    "As the pounding, aggressive heartbeat of one of the greatest bands in rock history, ALEX VAN HALEN has inspired drummers the world over with his unique sound and style," says Modern Drummer magazine's Editor In Chief Bill Miller.

    The article not only features ALEX VAN HALEN chatting with Modern Drummer about the band, the new tour and his equipment, but several exclusive shots of ALEX attacking his drum kit.

    oops! i didn't see the link
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    Edit: Damned double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaijuju View Post
    i found this on classicvh

    (Los Angeles, CA) December 13, 2007 - VAN HALEN'S explosive drummer ALEX VAN HALEN...
    Gee, no shit. It is the MARCH 2008 issue, which hit the stands in February 2008. This is the standard for most magazines, as the issue in question always arrives a month early to stay current. And if you'd bothered to click the link as I said, you might have figured this out by now.

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    Mmmmmmm Ive always heard Led Zep and the Who in their music. As a whole, not just the drums or style. I think VH -classic VH, is so original, that they've carved a nice spot in r n r along side the Stones, Who & Zep
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    They didn't carve shit! They drilled and blasted that bitch!

    Classic Van Halen kicked so much ass I have gone bankrupt paying my hospital bills.

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    "Alex Van Halen never cited John Bonham as a pure influence, but the sound was always there. Perhaps more so than any drummer from the early 1980s to the present, Alex Van Halen inherited the Bonham mantle."
    I'm not a drummer but I don't really hear the Bonham influence. Alex isn't as heavy sounding to me.

    “Dave, Eddie, and I were the main architects of the band."
    OK Alex, whatever you say. Michael Anthony's background vocals were just the drapes in the windows right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalener View Post

    Classic Van Halen kicked so much ass I have gone bankrupt paying my hospital bills.

    and yet another reason American socialists should adopt our health care reform! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBayLA View Post
    “Dave, Eddie, and I were the main architects of the band."
    OK Alex, whatever you say. Michael Anthony's background vocals were just the drapes in the windows right?

    I recall Dave on the radio talking about Mike being a true architect of the band. He was the only responsible one to make sure the lights were working, sound was set up etc. Dave called Mike the foundation of VH.

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    Yep...

    I remember that...and also that he wouldn't do a reunion without Anthony, or something to that effect...

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    well one things for sure. we can all agree that Mike's absence on the last tour was def noticeable. I do hope they reconcile, but if not I hope lil Wolf learns how to rock n roll a bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Troubles View Post
    well one things for sure. we can all agree that Mike's absence on the last tour was def noticeable.
    I saw them a handful of times, and never did i think about bass player... Sure it would have been nice to see his fat mullet up there but I honestly didn't miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAiN View Post
    I saw them a handful of times, and never did i think about bass player... Sure it would have been nice to see his fat mullet up there but I honestly didn't miss it.
    oh ya no doubt! Personally Id go for Dave & Ed... But the back up vocals were def missing and although I do believe he was playing Bass, it needed to be turned way the fuck up!

    BTW VAiN, my 12yr son loved the DVD!!! Roth On!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Troubles View Post
    BTW VAiN, my 12yr son loved the DVD!!! Roth On!
    Hell yeah! Nice to see there's hope for the future!! That's some proper home training, right there!

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    I hear a bit of Bonham in AVH's playing. Wouldn't say much more than a bit, though.

    Anthony should have been asked, but I took about as much note of Van Halen's bass player live in 2008 as I did when I saw them live in 1984, which is to say not very much.

    That being said, in terms of getting a bass player who will challenge the band musically, clearly Wolfie isn't gonna fill such a role. Perhaps his greatest use was the assumption that his prodding was what broke Ed's resistance to working with Roth again. Not insubstantial, but beyond that the kid ain't exactly pulling his weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    but beyond that the kid ain't exactly pulling his weight.
    Yeah...but give him a break. It can't be easy to pull that weight.

    You've seen the size of the kid, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fryingdutchman View Post
    Yeah...but give him a break. It can't be easy to pull that weight.

    You've seen the size of the kid, right?

    He should lay off those Filet 'o Fish McDonald's sammiches...there's very little fish in those.

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    Does anyone else think Alex Van Halen is the most arrogant prick in Van Halen. I mean i have been sat watching all manner of Van Halen stuff lately, interviews and what not and in practically everything i see the guy just gives of the vibe of one who thinks he is more than he is. I recently saw some interview after dave left where he was saying "yea this is the real van halen, the other one was just a practice". I mean what a prick. constantly calling Diamond Dave, one of the greatest vocalists of all time, as "the other guy". This guy just pisses me off to no end. I mean just ARG that guy fucks me off. Im sure he would Fuck sammy given the chance. well providing he can get his head outa his own ass for a sec.
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    I hear some Bonham in his drum solo's. Alot of the tribal type jungle tom work is very Bonham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNIPER View Post
    I hear some Bonham in his drum solo's. Alot of the tribal type jungle tom work is very Bonham.
    Sniper, thats the perfect description of Al's style, tribal jungle tom work! and I agree that bonzo also had a touch of that in his tom playing.

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    Al is such a solid force on drums. One of the hardest hitters and the the way he mixes his beats up with power, random double bass trickery, and off time antics just blows me away. It never gets old. Nobody has yet to sound like big Al.

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    Van Halen kicked so much ass I have been shitting shoe leather since the 80's.

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