So how screwed would be during a nuclear attack? The "Doomsday" thread

[Unchainme]

just really thought about this, I'm not so much paranoid at all, I highly doubt that there would be somebody like a terrorist with the nuclear know-how to do such a thing as other scenarios have sugguested. and really highly doubt that the we'd ever be nuked by a nation like China or Russia, but it begs the question, if such a thing happens how would things go?

to me, as a kid who was 6 months old when the Berlin wall came down, I seem fairly ignorant to how must people in previous generations prepared

I also believe, that if such an attack happened, I believe that the government and the country as a whole would morph into an increasingly dystopia existence. Perhaps, I'm incorrect in thinking, but I just picture if an event that was on that level of catastrophe occurred, there would be laws passed that would make the "Patriot Act" seem like it was written by the ACLU in comparison.

[bueno bob]

I'm inclined to think you're right. Transportation wouldn't exist outside of your own two feet, and I think lives would probably take on a pretty nomadic aspect. Raiding, robbing, looting and murder for supplies would become pretty commonplace, day to day activities. Law enforcement wouldn't be able to stop it, there'd be no public utilities or services...families would have to barricade their own houses and weapon up, venturing out to explore for food and water only and every trip out would be a possible trip that they wouldn't be coming back from.

The whole "Mad Max" aspect of a post apocalyptic world would probably look pretty nice in comparison. As far as any functioning government is concerned, I doubt seriously it'd be able to survive for long.

I guess it all kinda depends on the level of nuclear activity...too much and none of us are going to survive it anyway. Even if you did, you certainly wouldn't be happy about it. Just the amount of chemical activity in the air alone would not only prevent you from being able to go outside for years on end, but it would create you any number of diseases from being exposed to it (cancer jumps to mind).

If any kind of world war/holocaust scenario is the most likely, I'd think it would be akin to a "Red Dawn" type of scenario.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

but it begs the question, if such a thing happens how would things go?

never gonna happen. and we can thank matthew broderick and his tic tac toe skills for that!

[Terry]

If such an attack happened now, the electromagnetic pulse disrupting all electronic communications would render society useless, since people can't seem to function without fondling some handheld gadget.

I do remember in the early 1980s the fear of a nuclear attack was at a fever pitch, in large part due to Ronald Reagan's rhetoric.

Don't think I'd really want to survive such an attack, myself.

[Unchainme]

Well again, it really depends on the how major of an attack it is,

if you're talking "Sum of all fears" level..I view that as something that would be rather as the moment that government the way the founders have seen it would probably go from decaying ever so slightly, to pretty much being dead within a matter of minutes. Also, I have this off feeling that the very second that plays out, we're likely blaming Iran. Doesn't matter where the bomb came from, that's who's getting blamed. Would be a major question to see America's reaction to such a thing, and whether or not the world would stand behind them.

if you're saying a "Red Dawn" scenario, I can only really see that happen if relations with china went extremely south and we began to do such a thing as limit trade with them or try to impact their oil supply. Perhaps, a similiar thing occurs if Putin's Russia wants to reach back to it's glory days of being the soviet union and something occured there, but even then I don't believe they would return to their complete red-menace form that they were up until Gorbi was in office.

If the US was ever invaded or taken over by an extremist government of some sorts, I don't think that would last too long, the military is of a decent size, and there's enough rednecks up in the boonies and other folks in other places that would probably fight them off.

[VanHalenFan5150]

How screwed would we be? Well with Russia on our side, we'd have a very fair chance... Just saying...

[Unchainme]

http://www.nukepills.com/docs/nuclear_war_survival_skills.pdf

btw, for those with tinfoil hats, and for those who are curious about how to survive such a thing, heres a pretty good pdf.

[sadaist]

The fellow 80's kids here will remember the TV movie "The Day After". Man, at the time that scared the shit out of everyone. Basically about nuclear war aftermath. Also the Matthew Broderick movie "War Games". We were constantly pumped with fear over the cold war with Russia.

I can tell you one thing is for sure, money, stocks, bonds, etc ain't gonna mean shit. Probably gold or silver will be helpful, although doubtful. Honestly, if you survive...just hope you have a nice stockpile of lead. As for me, my brother & I decided we will be the only ones on the freeway driving towards downtown San Diego come the big day. We wanna go out in a blast, rather than fall apart slowly over 6 months.

[sadaist]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/

If you ever wanna check out the pure 80's cold war stuff pumped into our brains.

[bueno bob]

Yeah, "The Day After" did come to mind. Actually, I've read stories about how that movie alone might have done an awful lot to curb the whole arms race, just on it's own. I actually re-watched it on cable some months ago and it STILL scared the piss out of me.

Of course, that might just have been because I had to look at Steve Guttenberg again, but...

[Terry]

However, if such an attack DID take place, undoubtedly the C.H.U.D. people would rise out of the sewers to rule the surface world. This MIGHT be worth sticking around for.

[GAR]

http://www.nukepills.com/docs/nuclea...val_skills.pdf

btw, for those with tinfoil hats, and for those who are curious about how to survive such a thing, heres a pretty good pdf.

Today at work I had so many hotsauce packets in my tacos and ate so many that by 2pm the mens restroom atmosphere was not breatheable and unsurvivable.

[sadaist]

Today at work I had so many hotsauce packets in my tacos and ate so many that by 2pm the mens restroom atmosphere was not breatheable and unsurvivable.

I usually like the hottest sauce. But at Del Taco, that one is surprisingly watery & thin. Yes it's hot, but liquidy. So I get 1 of those & 1 medium sauce & put them both on. The medium is a bunch thicker, better consistency, and ads those subtle onion, garlic, & pepper spices with tomato paste.

[Seshmeister]

If people remember back to the 80s then the terrorist threat these days is nothing really.

It was nuts back then and Ronnie Raygun was playing dice with the future of the world by making the Russians think they were about to get nuked.

On one occasion we were just lucky that a Russian officer had the balls to disobey orders and didn't launch when he got false signals that the US was attacking them.

[sadaist]

If people remember back to the 80s then the terrorist threat these days is nothing really.
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Well. Back then it was just the US & Russia. Today, many have nukes, many want nukes, and many more will soon have nukes. Eventually someone is gonna pop one. I could really see Kim Jong-Il launch one or 2 close to his death. Just so he goes out with a bang...excuse the pun.