Nice derail GARfail. C'mon, answer Igo's questions you limp wristed donkey fluffer!
Nice derail GARfail. C'mon, answer Igo's questions you limp wristed donkey fluffer!
Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!
Gar's tools...
Igloo's got a 7K beer coaster in his shop yet wanted to split hairs over what in the world a feeler gauge is?
LOLZ
Funny how the coward fades from the view and the thread when challenged to put his money where his mouth is...
With his vast resources and intelligence he should show me up no problem......Except he runs away...
From what, 'Gloo? I appreciate your genuine sharing of your slice of life on the board, but I never asked you to do so.
My own consistency is holding the line at my promise not to share pics of my junk, and if the details bore all my friends they're sure to bore anyone here as well.
I have never known any repair guy who uses spark plug gap measuring guages to measure string height and fret clearance.
Here is the correct way to measure string height. I've been using this method myself for many years with great success.
Now, shut yer Cocksucker and post pics. of your gear or GTFO!
A quarter-inch deflection at the 14th fret? That's .250, or ten times the dimension we're talking about at first fret for clearance.
DullardDimmy, I don't think feeler gauges can help you the way they help us techs sort out height-adjust issues. Ask around cuz you seem to disbelieve everything i state not found on Google.
Igloo will tell you it's impossible to check for valve lash clearance without these, and in the last 20 years most factories including Fender Custom Shop spec the clearances with a gauge.
Without a gauge to tell you what's going on, guessing at what your clearance is, is equivalent to NOT knowing if you could or should keep filing nut slots, grinding beneath the locking nut ledge, or topping frets.. or basically pissing in the wind.
The way you use these in adjusting valve lashes on a smallblock Chevy is stick 'em inbetween the rocker tappet and valve end, then wrench the nut till it the gauge slips out easily. But with string clearances, you keep filing a slot until THAT slot will just touch the gauge, barely. You work on one string at a time, the others taped behind the fingerboard each string you do.
So you see, gauging your string height clearances is exactly the same principle yet different method in adjusting valve lash on a motor.
Of course, doing this with a Floyd block is both more difficult, but simpler because you only worry about the outer E strings. Once those clearances are set, the other four are already set by the arc of the clamp so you don't have to, nor can you do, anything further - you're done.
Last edited by GAR; 07-14-2010 at 02:12 AM.
Blah, blah... Somehow I don't think a pissing match is what the OP meant by "help".
Want some info with out all the GARbabble? Try Dan Erlewine's book.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Books,_p...air_Guide.html
Guaranteed to be more informative - RELIABLE - and fun than Google.
Please tell them it includes a chapter on feeler gauges..
Nothing about using automotive ones...
Fuck these ASSHOLES kid, take Fender's word for it if you take nobodys..
Stratocaster
STRATOCASTER® ADJUSTMENT AND CARE
http://www.fender.com/support/stratocaster.php
The following setup procedures and specifications are for your Stratocaster as equipped with the strings that come on the instrument as standard equipment from the factory. If you plan to change string gauges, you may need to adjust the specs somewhat to compensate for the changes in string sizes. Modifications of the specs may also be made (within limited parameters) to adjust for your individual playing style or application (i.e., how hard you pick, strum or fret the guitar).
Note: These are minimum specifications that are meant as a guide; they should not be construed as hard and fast rules, as we realize that every player's subjective requirements often differ.
TOOLS NEEDED
- Set of motherfuckin' automotive feeler gauges (.002-.025) (0.05–1 mm)
- 6" (150 mm) ruler (with 1/32" and 1/64" increments) (0.5 mm increments)
- Light machine oil (3-in-1, toy locomotive or gun oil)
- Phillips screwdriver
- Electronic tuner
- Wire cutters
- Peg winder
- Polish and cloth
Wow, check that out! Woudja lookit THIS, you got owned too!
You said "shove that fact down on GAR" so you made yourself part of a severe owned on Jay handed down by yours truly.
Didja see it? Dude, I dooded it.. it's a done deal. Nobody on this board seems to argue a Custom Shop Factory setting, it's like a FATWAH.
It's like the FUCKING BIBLE. Fender makes the original bolton guitar, so they should know, and the first tool they specify in your to-have list of tools: is amotherfucking set of spark plug feeler gauges.
Did you root for the wrong team> yes, you did do such a thing. Now your once moistened cheeks of glee are frowning with a sadness such as you have not felt emotions before.
Ever been invited to a wake for the deceased, PetesBrother? This is an event sadder than that, my owning of you on this gauge issue mourns the loss of your poise, your dignity and burns your self-esteem to the ground.
Your lazy, overfed self-respect was once rolling on the grass with laughter over another persons' unfound put-down, now I've placed it six feet UNDER the grass.
How wrong you were sir. Next time you decide to join in on a dogpile, such as have joined my Ignore List, be sure you're rooting for the right team.
Your own "consistency" is not proving ANYTHING of what you repeatedly say you have while knocking other peoples stuff. I gave you a chance to go toe to toe with me on tools (that you're an expert on, and what could be the harm of posting pictures of tools???) and you slink away from the challenge.
In your own language, I'd say I own you.....
Anyway I tried the saddle screw rotation thing. I forgot I had an intonation problem earlier so me and my pops put shims under the nut (with carefully cut holes for the screws, can't tell you how many times I cut the whole shim on accident) and when I took said shims out I got some fucking bad fret buzz on the A string... so I shimmed up the nut again... And now i'm just too lazy to finish working on it, though it's almost done. So my Les Paul will be my main axe for now.
Reading Crazy From the Heat in four hours flat, in a cramped RV, on the return trip of a 3,000+ mile family outing to New Jersey is an enlightening experience you'll never forget.
Sorry to derail your thread guy, it's just GARgles such an ass....
Bet he ain't gotten any ass either.
At any rate though, like I said, I still got my Les Paul (which has a better neck anyway)
You are such a fucking idiot!
You cannot help but show everyone how little you truly know!
Now you have demonstrated to the world that you cannot even read a fucking scale!
Can you read a fucking scale? I thought not.
That photo shows a clearance of 3/32 of an inch, you STUPID PIECE OF SHIT!
Where the fuck did you come up with a quarter of an inch?
1/4 Inch = .25
3/32 = .09375, which is only a little over THREE times "the dimension we're talking about at first fret for clearance", as you so lamely put it.
Why don't you fucking go away? This fucking thread is NOT about YOU or your ignorant fucking imaginary "I KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT GUITARS" BULLSHIT!
GO FUCK YOURSELF!
This thread was started by VanHalenFan5150, who was asking for some help from people WHO ACTUALLY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT GUITARS!
This does NOT INCLUDE YOU, FUCKER!
Jay, there is a no-ban policy for the site. But what about an individual forum?
It is impossible for anyone to post in this forum without this retarded ass-monkey leaping in with his bullshit and derailing the thread in question.
Garfuckle needs to be banned from this forum, otherwise there will be no end to his mindless derailments.
Well, unless he were to be run over by a train, or something.
Last edited by Hardrock69; 07-14-2010 at 10:56 AM.
Gar, for the last time, go away
Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!
Funny, again he claims we are on his imaginary Ignore list, yet he continues to reply with even more inane babble.
Typical Garfuckle.
Wrong, fuck off, post your gear, or GTFO.
Imagining it won't make it so, GARfail. To clarify, since unlike Garfuckle I actually OWN the thing, there is NO CHAPTER on feeler gauges (they are mentioned as a tool every repair shop should have), and even in the Fender SECTION, they do not mention SPARK PLUG feeler gauges.
They're talking about THIS kind, jackass - not the pocket spark plug one you got busking in front of the Van Nuys Auto-Zone:
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Nuts,_sa...etails#details
I threw that out based on him attacking all the time, it doesnt' matter if its his or not - 'twats a joke!
Uh, since I've read it already, knew you were full of shit dude - sorry. I did post the link to prove (not like it already hasn't been demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt) you're FULL OF SHIT.
But keep making up those little owning fantasies to amuse yourself. You're the one getting perma-pwned.
Oh yeah, post pics of your gear or GTFO.
In summary, I've proven you need a gap gauge to check your first-fret height distance.
Which the kid has a necessity to check while reducing the nutblock mounting ledge, or he could file too much off without it.
I've also proved Custom Shop uses these for setups, by quoting and providing a link.
The kid asked for "a little help" I don't know what else to offer here, short of an instrucitonal video.
You have not 'proven' a goddam thing.
The kid asked for help, but not from YOU.
He just wants you to GO THE FUCK AWAY, ASSHOLE! (as everyone else here wishes you would do).
Same thing I was gonna post...
'Gloo, let's embrace the differences that make you you, and move on.
That was not a statement of kindness!
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