FINALLY a look at GAR's Kramer

[GAR]

I just started cleaning it up this afternoooooooooooooon.. nothing special, just a black beak-head Kramer 2-hum.

It is 2 humbuckers, a Floyd and a 5-digit serial number starting with a F.

The neck has pencilled-in "F 903" and the body "F 922"

Does anyone know how to date these things? I can't play for shit anymore, and have probably changed strings 10 times in the last 20 years. So I used what I started out with, Ernie Ball 008 - 038's!

Yes I know, I'm gonna hear about it: "wow you'll get no bass with that 38 wound E string" and "what a wuss, he's using 008's again" that's fine. I've dished it out and I suppose I should take my own medicine, too.

Wanna see?

[Dan]

No And Fuck Off.

[Little Texan]

Here's Gar's guitar...

[Cato]

I just started cleaning it up this afternoooooooooooooon.. nothing special, just a black beak-head Kramer 2-hum.

It is 2 humbuckers, a Floyd and a 5-digit serial number starting with a F.

The neck has pencilled-in "F 903" and the body "F 922"

Does anyone know how to date these things? I can't play for shit anymore, and have probably changed strings 10 times in the last 20 years. So I used what I started out with, Ernie Ball 008 - 038's!

Yes I know, I'm gonna hear about it: "wow you'll get no bass with that 38 wound E string" and "what a wuss, he's using 008's again" that's fine. I've dished it out and I suppose I should take my own medicine, too.

Wanna see?

could you please STFU?

[GAR]

Cato, you perfectly yellow specimen: the only things you could date have gills.

[jhale667]

It is 2 humbuckers, a Floyd and a 5-digit serial number starting with a F.

The neck has pencilled-in "F 903" and the body "F 922"

Does anyone know how to date these things?
Wanna see?

Just post the picture already. If it really exists...it's circa '86-90. The Voyager body I have is a C series, 83-84...

http://www.vintagekramer.com/serials.htm

[jhale667]

No And Fuck Off.

[GAR]

"Fxxxx-Fxxxxx - late '87 - late '89 R

Range - F0001-13XXX (presumed)

Notes:
1986-90 "Pointy Droopy" or "Shark" headstocks(E2000s-G series) - Bodies and Necks by ESP
Die cast plates in chrome and black sporting "Neptune, NJ" on them with the banana Kramer logo."

Okay well the pot codes say '86.

[jhale667]

[GAR]

Trying this upload feature..

[GAR]

That one uploaded, here is another

I guess the reason I'm having trouble is, there's a BUG in the File Manager upload feature - the background lettering is WHITE and the background is also WHITE.

So when I click on the file in the folder with my pics, I can't see if they've been selected or not.

If I highlight with the mouse button, I can see the text of the file upload description.

This has to be fixed.

[GAR]

Oh so it's like THAT huh? Kick me in the nuts while I'm trying to do something that's gonna make you happy - I'm going to BED

[jhale667]

It's a start...saddles look a bit stepped on, might wanna replace those...

[GAR]

They work fine, why would I do that?

Picked it up today, $70 bucks. Already sold the neck with Buy It Now and put a banana head on it.

It has a JB1 in the neck, and a shit Gotoh MMK in the bridge.. I love FREE geetah!

[GAR]

.. and the money shot you've all been waiting for: behold!

Esta es Los "LOS". As in LOS-er, somebody LOS dey geetah een dah pawnshop foh dee DROGAHSSSS..

(all that shit came off in full sun in a hot secunt.. keyword: naptha!)

I'm goin back there next week for that amp if you don't.

[GAR]

Boy, I won't be doing another pic thread like this again using the Uploader - photobucket was a pain in the ass too, but WAY faster than uploading here!

Now you know why I don't do pics. Bullshit took all day..

[jhale667]

Boy, I won't be doing another pic thread like this again using the Uploader - photobucket was a pain in the ass too, but WAY faster than uploading here!

Now you know why I don't do pics. Bullshit took all day..

Sure that's not just because you're slow...and has nothing to do with Photobucket...?

[VanHalenFan5150]

I got an old Kramer, perfect condition from a buddy of my dad's. You'll shit your pants when you see it. I'll start a thread for it soon.

[GAR]

Oh the plywood one. I had one of those.

What I don't like about the plywood Kramers is that they most often came with standard trems because they plys are too weak to support float trem pegs.

Yours uses a standard trem design to simulate floating tremolo pegs but using two mounting screws.

That's not acceptable.

You have two choices: Floyd, or standard Fender trem. A standard is the obv choice because it's easier.

The Floyd on mine was a bit harder retrofit than most guitars: it was top-routed 3-single rout like the classic Fender design, which came very close to the mounting screws.

The clearance was bout 5/16" of an inch, which I didn't modify with a router because I used a fucked-up '67 nitro pickguard.. stock single Fenders.

So when I first used a drill press for enlarging the pilot screw hole (3/16?) to support the "barrel" portion (1/4"?) of the pivot screw, I got break-out. The plys broke out sideways from lack of strength.

Even after filling with epoxy and re-drilling the bore of that hole, both pivot screws leaned forward slightly - forcing me to compensate by moving intonation points backward on the bridge.

With this body, you have lots of material between the pickup rout and where the pivot screw locations would be, but let me tell you that wood is a spongy, Phillipine Mahogany. I think you'd best suit it with a standard Fender trem.

[GAR]

Sure that's not just because you're slow...and has nothing to do with Photobucket...?

Thing I've learned about parts guitars losses and insurance companies is: I could throw both our guitars into your car and set it ablaze, but only my guitar would get a check from them because I have that serial number.

That's right! I could write an invoice to myself for replacement value of $2000, which I'd give to my dealer so we could do drugs all nite.. and you'd be scratching your head over your $500 parts guitar loss. I know its' not fair, but maybe you should consider affixing any kind of decal and serial plate on that.

Consider writing the following companies for a free replacement decal: Kay, Carlo Robelli, Samick, Danelectro, Silvertone etc. I'm sure they'll kick you down something for twenty bucks.

[jhale667]

Actually, I know where to get decals, and you wouldn't get shit because when the insurance company asked I'd say "What other guitar in my car set ablaze?"

[GO-SPURS-GO]

Actually, I know where to get decals, and you wouldn't get shit because when the insurance company asked I'd say "What other guitar in my car set ablaze?"

That was funny, Gar!

[GAR]

I KNOW So is his career~!!

[jhale667]

I KNOW So is his career~!!

Ah, but at least I have one, unlike you, the underpass dweller who smokes pole for crack...



STFU.

[GAR]

Careers are life-plans which include a notion called "Path of Advancement."



Sorry, Jay.

[jhale667]

Careers are life-plans which include a notion called "Path of Advancement."



Sorry, Jay.

Again with the projection - you're the one that can be replaced by an immigrant. Not me. "Usted no tiene un trabajo", remember?

So as far as career-paths go - where do you move up from the squat at the underpass to? Another janitorial gig?

[GAR]

Again - you're the one that can be replaced by an immigrant. Not me.

ANYONE can be replaced by illegals, career or no career: http://immigrationcounters.com/

This whole "not me / won't affect me / doesn't touch me" is a falsehood floated by the liberal media, and you bought into the lie.

Know your numbers before you parrot on the subject.

[jhale667]

Nope, not anyone - JUST IDIOTS LIKE YOU. Keep your "liberal media" bullshit in the political forum, idiot - or this gets merged with your crybaby/playpen thread.

[jhale667]

STFU, Sockfucker.

[GAR]

I thought Jay would rip me on the fact the guitar's a Focus 2000, yet he's so pleased I posted a pic of anything hes not mentioned it yet.

TWAS a free geetah.. I love free:

FREE Duncan JB
FREE Original Floyd w/nut
FREE Schaller Mini's
FREE neck, had a nice rosewood finggy.. but OH well, I flipped one part to pay for the rest.

- because I had an ESP Japan banana head.

Now it looks lot like the HFT guitar except it's a 2 hum

[Jagermeister]

do the moderators argue like this all the time with the fans that post on this forum? Or is jhale a female who used to be gar's girlfriend & just has bad feelings for him? What's going on? Seems no one can get a topic going without a mooderator getting her/his feelings hurt and feeling the 'need to hurt the one they love the most'! What the hell?

lmao!

[GAR]

Sometimes when youre just one Sunflower among the daisies, you find they wanna cut you down when they find themselves powerless in the shade.

I dunno why Jay does that..

[jhale667]

I thought Jay would rip me on the fact the guitar's a Focus 2000,

Figured everyone could see THAT bit of info from your pictures...but why would I rip you, we know how you LOVE plywood guitars...wouldn't want to hurt your widdle feelings... Dumbass.