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    For my fellow Lion fans, some QB information from the Detroit Free Press

    Shaun Hill wore a black cast up to his elbow on his left arm and took all the first-team reps in the open portion of Detroit Lions practice this morning, making it likely he'll start Sunday's game against the Buffalo Bills.

    Hill has been out since fracturing his left forearm in an Oct. 17 loss to the New York Giants. He used that arm to hand off during practice today and took snaps from the shotgun formation, using both hands to catch the ball.

    Drew Stanton worked behind Hill, with starter Matthew Stafford watching from the sidelines because of a separated throwing shoulder, his second of the year.

    Guard Stephen Peterman, defensive linemen Cliff Avril and Corey Williams, linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba and running back Kevin Smith also missed practice today.

    Safety C.C. Brown returned after sitting out the Jets game with a knee injury, and cornerback Chris Houston practiced after dislocating his shoulder last week.

    http://www.freep.com/article/2010111...ikely-to-start

    Article regarding Stafford


    I haven't seen Matthew Stafford's shoulder and wouldn't know what I was looking at if I did, anyway. I suspect my official diagnosis would be "Ewww," with a strong recommendation to "cover that thing up." Then, to make Stafford feel like he got sound medical advice, I would bill him $14 million.

    Nonetheless, I did find two people who ... well, who also haven't seen Stafford's shoulder. But they would know what they were looking at, because they are experts in shoulder injuries.

    As you probably know, Stafford injured his right shoulder Sunday, two months after injuring that same shoulder in the season opener, and a year after injuring his left shoulder as a rookie. This has led a lot of people to wonder whether Stafford has some sort of shoulder-injuring addiction, or put another way: Is he injury-prone and are the Lions jinxed and why isn't life fair and why do the Steelers get to win all the time and Detroit can't have ONE decent season?

    Well, settle down.

    "One way or the other, he is going to be fine," said Dr. David Altchek of the Hospital for Special Surgery, who is medical director for the New York Mets and a medical consultant for the NBA. "It's not that bad an injury. I've never seen a quarterback have a career-ending injury of this kind."

    Dr. Paul Saluan of the Cleveland Clinic said, although he has not examined Stafford, the most likely scenario is that he is just unlucky. This would jibe with Lions coach Jim Schwartz's comments this week that Stafford's two shoulder injuries this season were unrelated. "I would be willing to bet that 20-30% of quarterbacks in the NFL have had AC separations," Saluan said.

    The chances of Stafford being 100% are not great, but let's face it: Nobody is ever 100% in the NFL. If this is a normal case, Stafford should return at something close to his normal physical ability. This injury -- or these two injuries -- should not define his career.

    Mlive.com reported that Stafford has a Grade 3 AC separation, which reminds me of a study I read back in 2005 by Dr. Richard Hawkins called "Grade 3 AC Separations and NFL Quarterbacks." It was a riveting piece of literature, full of plot twists and nuance, and I especially loved the part when Eli Manning's shoulder screams that Archie Manning's shoulder always liked Peyton's shoulder better, and ... OK, fine. I didn't actually read it. Saluan told me about it.

    Anyway, Hawkins looked at 15 NFL quarterbacks who suffered Grade 3 AC separations. Twelve chose not to undergo surgery, and they missed an average of five games. Three underwent surgery immediately. They missed an average of eight games.

    The conclusion? There isn't one, really. Apparently there is some disagreement in the medical profession about whether surgery should be performed on Grade 3 AC separations.

    "This is a tricky issue," Altchek said. "It's very individual." Altchek said that the convention used to be to avoid surgery. Now, though, he thinks there is "a subset" of players who should undergo surgery.

    The Lions aren't saying much. Their options, though, are pretty clear. They can wait to see how Stafford's shoulder heals without surgery, with the hope that he can return to get some experience at the end of the year. Or they can opt for surgery now.

    Either way, I know this is frustrating, but it does not mean Stafford is doomed to spend the rest of his career in hospitals. As the Lions have shown, bad talent can kill a team. Bad luck should go away. We know Stafford has talent. Now he just needs better luck.

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...te=fullarticle

    And even some news about that douchebag from Michigan State


    Third-string quarterback Drew Stanton said he is getting ready for his second career NFL start Sunday when the Lions play at Buffalo.

    "(I'll) go in later today and watch film and prepare as if I'm going to be the starter," Stanton said Tuesday morning. "It doesn't change I think any of our preparation. We're all going to approach it that way."

    Coach Jim Schwartz declined to address reports that said QB Matthew Stafford suffered a Grade 3 separated right shoulder Sunday against the Jets. The injury would be slightly worse than the separation he suffered to the same shoulder in the opener that caused him to miss five games.

    The Lions and Stafford are waiting for Birmingham, Ala.-based orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews to review the MRI results before determining how to proceed with treatment and rehab. A source familiar with the situation told the Free Press that there was "no other damage" believed to have occurred to Stafford's shoulder.

    With backup Shaun Hill still healing from a fractured left forearm, which made him available only to hand off the ball last Sunday, Stanton could get the start.

    Players spoke about Stanton as the de facto starter Tuesday and voiced their support for the 2007 second-round pick from Michigan State and Farmington Hills Harrison.

    "The thing about Drew is we know Drew's a dog, in a good way," Calvin Johnson said. "He's going to go out there and get the job done, whether it might be pretty or ugly. We're going to stand by him and he's going to stand by us."
    He's confident he can do the job

    Stanton has not had the easiest road in his NFL career.

    The Farmington Hills Harrison product once was thought to be the Lions' quarterback of the future after the team drafted him in the second round of the 2007 draft out of Michigan State. But Stanton's future beyond Sunday, when he could get his second NFL start when the Lions visit Buffalo, is rather hazy.

    Stanton is in the final year of his contract. He has played in only nine games, he threw three interceptions last season in his first NFL start, and he made a poor decision to throw on a crucial third down Sunday against the Jets.

    With Stafford's separated right shoulder likely to sideline him for Sunday's game and possibly the season, and Hill still healing from a fractured left forearm, the starting job this week appears to be Stanton's, even though he didn't count out the gritty Hill.

    "Knowing the type of person that Shaun is," Stanton said Tuesday, "he's probably going to do everything in his power to get back and play."

    Stanton did prove to be capable when he entered the game against the New York Giants late in the second quarter after Hill suffered his arm injury. Stanton was 19-for-34 and passed for 222 yards, including an 87-yard touchdown to Calvin Johnson.

    Stanton said he was preparing to be the starter this week and was confident in his ability to lead the offense.

    " Very confident," Stanton said. "I think that I draw from the strengths of what we do in our (quarterback) room. I've said many times that this is the best quarterback room that I've been around. We depend on each other and we rely on each other for a lot of different things.

    "But I think the confidence that comes out of that room is a direct effect of the preparation that we put in throughout the week. We know the weapons we have on offense. It's our job to get the ball in their hands and allow them to make the plays."

    The Lions have a high-octane offense with playmakers like Johnson, Nate Burleson, tight end Brandon Pettigrew and running back Jahvid Best. Their 25.4-point average ranks seventh in the NFL. But most of that comes from the passing offense, which ranks eighth with 247.8 yards per game. The rushing offense ranks 30th.

    The question will be whether Stanton, a mobile quarterback with a career completion percentage of 52.9%, can power the passing attack against the Bills, whose passing defense ranks sixth.

    "We know what Drew can do," right tackle Gosder Cherilus said. "He has a very strong arm and he can run the ball, too. It's our job to execute and make Drew look good and do whatever we can to give 110%. If it's time for Drew to run, then let Drew be Drew."

    If Stanton gets the start, the work will begin with today's practice when the starting quarterback gets the bulk of the snaps. Even when Stafford returned two weeks ago from his initial shoulder injury, he was a little rusty.

    Johnson said receivers get used to each quarterback in practice throughout the season, but he still expected some adjustment period with Stanton. "It might be a little rust to knock off come Wednesday, but as we get it going, things will be smoothing out," Johnson said.

    Stanton is in the final year of his contract. A start Sunday would help him increase his value as well as provide him with an opportunity to show what he can do.

    "Yeah, definitely," Stanton said. "To be able to get out there and play is why you put all the hard work in. ... All this stuff that we do is in pursuit of that time that you get to get out there and have the chance to operate an offense. You continue to prep and get ready and when that test comes on Sunday, you want to be prepared for it."

    BACK TO SCHOOL: Stanton, Johnson, Cherilus and safety Louis Delmas visited Vandenberg Elementary in Redford to promote physical fitness and present the school with a $10,000 check on behalf of the Lions and the NFL. Principal Syndee Malek said the money would help provide playground and gym equipment.

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...te=fullarticle
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    al harris is a dolphin, not bad chef.
    Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    al harris is a dolphin, not bad chef.
    I really was surprised that he was released, and even more astounded that he went unclaimed by all 32 teams.









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    didn't he have a 2.5 mill contract? that mighta kept peeps away

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    didn't he have a 2.5 mill contract? that mighta kept peeps away
    The Dolphins are not required to pay his full deal here, because he cleared waivers. If they signed him before that, they would then need to pick up the tab. In any event, he was only signed for a 1 year offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post


    And even some news about that douchebag from Michigan State
    At least he's not injury prone like that little fag the WolverQueens claim is a QB!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    At least he's not injury prone like that little fag the WolverQueens claim is a QB!
    You have to have the talent to play to get hurt usually lol Not to mention Millen drafted Stanton in the 2nd round, what a joke.

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    Hoo-boy...the Dolphins announced this afternoon that Chad Pennington will start this Sunday against the Titans, instead of the chosen one Chad Henne...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Hoo-boy...the Dolphins announced this afternoon that Chad Pennington will start this Sunday against the Titans, instead of the chosen one Chad Henne...
    I don't get it, Henne isn't lighting the place up by any means but Crypt Keeper Pennington can't be the answer for anyone, they would be better off bringing Marino back.

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    White must just be brutal in practice, they drafted him kind of high and it doesn't sound like he is even a option.

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    So much for his fruity little sack dance lol

    LB Merriman strains leg in first Bills practice

    ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP)—Shawne Merriman’s first practice with his new team in Buffalo didn’t last very long, and now it’s uncertain when the linebacker will play again.

    Coach Chan Gailey said Wednesday that Merriman strained his lower right leg and that it’s not “anything major,” but declined to offer any specifics. Gailey did say the injury makes it less likely Merriman will make his Bills debut Sunday against Detroit.

    “Yeah, it hurts him. His chances (to play) go down tremendously,” Gailey said of the one-time fearsome pass-rusher whom Buffalo claimed off waivers from San Diego a week ago.

    A three-time Pro Bowl selection, Merriman was hurt during an individual drill about 10 minutes into practice. He was dropping back and then pivoting to his left when he pulled up and began hopping on one leg.

    Merriman pulled down his right sock and limped to the sideline, where a trainer spent a few minutes checking his ankle. Merriman then consulted head trainer Bud Carpenter at midfield before being escorted to the Bills’ fieldhouse, where the team’s training room is located.

    Merriman’s injury was yet another disappointment for a team that’s had very little go right this season, and has dropped each of its last three games by three points, including a 22-19 loss to Chicago last weekend.

    “It’s a tough situation. You don’t want that to happen, especially with the excitement he can bring, and what he can do for us defensively,” linebacker Paul Posluszny said. “Man, we can’t catch a break, but what are you going to do but keep going? We still have to play, we still have to prepare. So we’ll continue to press on.”

    Injuries over the past three seasons have slowed the performance of a player nicknamed “Lights Out” for his hard-hitting style. Merriman’s five-plus year career in San Diego ended after the Chargers placed him on injured reserve last month due to a calf injury.

    The Chargers waived him once he was ruled healthy.

    Merriman passed a physical with the Bills after reporting to the team last weekend, but was wearing a wrap around his left calf during practice Wednesday. He had also been bothered by a right Achilles’ tendon injury for much of this year.

    He missed most of the 2008 season after undergoing reconstructive knee surgery, and had only four sacks last year after managing 39 1/2 in his first three NFL seasons.

    The Bills, off to their worst start in 26 years, were counting on Merriman to spark a defense that’s had difficulty generating a pass rush. The team also lost two starters this week when middle linebacker Andra Davis(notes) (shoulder) and receiver Roscoe Parrish (broken wrist) were placed on injured reserve Monday.

    Gailey was disappointed but not entirely surprised that Merriman might have been stiff in practice, given that he’s not practiced for nearly a month.

    “What happens is everyone gets their expectations so high, but you’ve got to realize he hasn’t played a lot of football,” Gailey said. “He hasn’t had pads on in a while, all that kind of stuff. You want him out there, but he’s not ready. We’re not going to put him out there until he’s ready. That’s the number one thing.”

    Before practice, safety Donte Whitner(notes) expressed hope that Merriman could start on Sunday.

    After practice, Whitner was lowering his expectations.

    “Hopefully, we can get him out there as soon as possible,” Whitner said. “And he’s going to be a big piece for us when he does finally gets out there.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    I don't get it, Henne isn't lighting the place up by any means but Crypt Keeper Pennington can't be the answer for anyone, they would be better off bringing Marino back.
    It spells one of two things...the coaching staff is panicking, or the idea of "win now" means the so called QB of the future experiment may be just about over. Pennington hasn't played since he was injured in the 3rd game of last season, but the Dolphins brain trust seems to believe he gives us the best chance of winning. That in and of itself speaks volumes.

    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    White must just be brutal in practice, they drafted him kind of high and it doesn't sound like he is even a option.
    Pat White was brought in to compliment the wildcat. He was dismal, and since every team in the league is either running a variation of it or has figured out how to stop it, he became unnecessary. This leaves us with Tyler Thigpen as our 3rd QB. And with the Jets and Patriots in our division, things look fairly bleak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    So much for his fruity little sack dance lol

    LB Merriman strains leg in first Bills practice
    This guy breaks down more than a British made automobile manufactured in the seventies. Makes me wonder about what Howie Long and Jimmy Johnson were saying about players who no longer use steroids about a month ago on FOX, talking then about Merriman.

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    i wouldn't be surprised if it is a "phantom" injury that we'll likely see more of as this season winds down, especially on teams with little aspirations for the post season.

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    I hope and pray it is John Gruden. Some so called experts seem to think it will be Gruden. I have always thought he was an excellent coach and I love his intensity. I like the fact that he will install his own offense and am sure he would be able to maximize the talent they already have. I wouldn't mind seeing Dallas switch back to a 4-3 defense either. Ware and Spencer would make great defensive ends and Ratliff and Olshansky could both play DT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKIN WHISKEY View Post
    Don't mind me, I'm in my own world.
    Relax, it's happening to Dallas fans all over the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Relax, it's happening to Dallas fans all over the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_R View Post
    No way it would be Gruden. He's already had to deal with Al Davis.
    Quote Originally Posted by TAKIN WHISKEY View Post
    I hope and pray it is John Gruden. Some so called experts seem to think it will be Gruden. I have always thought he was an excellent coach and I love his intensity. I like the fact that he will install his own offense and am sure he would be able to maximize the talent they already have. I wouldn't mind seeing Dallas switch back to a 4-3 defense either. Ware and Spencer would make great defensive ends and Ratliff and Olshansky could both play DT.
    I don't think so bro. But, you never know. I think Cowher would be a more likely choice. That being said I don't think it'll be him either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    You have to have the talent to play to get hurt usually lol
    I am sure DeNegro will be an NFL QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    I don't get it, Henne isn't lighting the place up by any means
    You don't get it? Are you serious? Henne has no business being in uniform, even to hold a clipboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKIN WHISKEY View Post
    I hope and pray it is John Gruden. Some so called experts seem to think it will be Gruden. I have always thought he was an excellent coach and I love his intensity. I like the fact that he will install his own offense and am sure he would be able to maximize the talent they already have. I wouldn't mind seeing Dallas switch back to a 4-3 defense either. Ware and Spencer would make great defensive ends and Ratliff and Olshansky could both play DT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_R View Post
    I don't think so bro. But, you never know. I think Cowher would be a more likely choice. That being said I don't think it'll be him either.

    I would love Bill Cowher. I think he could lure Dick Lebeau to come be the DC. I’ll even settle for John Mitchell as our DC. But all this is not happening, unfortunately.

    This is what I see happening. If Jason can somehow make the team play for him and win half the remaining games, I think Jason will be the head coach next year. I would love to see the D go back to a 4/3 and get Zimmer back. Even though the Cowboys were in horrible shape salary cape wise, he was able to put together some pretty good defenses, which always ranked in the top 10.

    When NFLN makes a show 20 years from now on the “Most Disappointing Seasons Ever,” the 2010 Dallas Cowboys will be number one. Damn!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    You don't get it? Are you serious? Henne has no business being in uniform, even to hold a clipboard.
    Not at all. The guy has an arm, and anyone that has been to Dolphin camp (Uhhh, like me) can attest to this. The problem is that our receivers are not exactly what you'd call dependable, and our offensive line is still shaky with regard to pass blocking. This isn't a problem with a QB with a short release and some established pass running patterns for the receivers, but we do not have any. The deal is further compounded by the honest to God weird way our offense is changed from week to week. One series, the pass is a decoy to establish the run. Then the run is abandoned, Ricky Williams sits idle and we invent these dumbass Ronnie Brown plays that create 3 yards and a cloud of dust, leading to our special teams to make things even more spectacular, only for the other team!

    And now we are putting in a QB that has had ice on his shoulder for over a year, instead of sticking with a guy who while not exactly being the reincarnation of Dan Marino, has managed to be a serviceable QB and was at least learning to deal with what he was handed by the coaching staff. And it's his fault? Nope, not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Not at all. The guy has an arm, and anyone that has been to Dolphin camp (Uhhh, like me) can attest to this. The problem is that our receivers are not exactly what you'd call dependable, and our offensive line is still shaky with regard to pass blocking. This isn't a problem with a QB with a short release and some established pass running patterns for the receivers, but we do not have any. The deal is further compounded by the honest to God weird way our offense is changed from week to week. One series, the pass is a decoy to establish the run. Then the run is abandoned, Ricky Williams sits idle and we invent these dumbass Ronnie Brown plays that create 3 yards and a cloud of dust, leading to our special teams to make things even more spectacular, only for the other team!

    And now we are putting in a QB that has had ice on his shoulder for over a year, instead of sticking with a guy who while not exactly being the reincarnation of Dan Marino, has managed to be a serviceable QB and was at least learning to deal with what he was handed by the coaching staff. And it's his fault? Nope, not at all.
    Uh, dude. How long has Henne been in the league? He sucks ass, and is going to resume his proper spot, on the sidelines.

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    Henne isn't a quarterback I'd hang my hat on to lead a team. Do the Dolphins have other issues? Sure...but Henne, in my opinion, isn't a sure-fire starter in this league.

    That said...he's better than Pennington...and better than many starters in the league. To me...that says more about the other guys than about Henne...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Uh, dude. How long has Henne been in the league? He sucks ass, and is going to resume his proper spot, on the sidelines.
    Quote Originally Posted by POJO_Risin View Post
    Henne isn't a quarterback I'd hang my hat on to lead a team. Do the Dolphins have other issues? Sure...but Henne, in my opinion, isn't a sure-fire starter in this league.

    That said...he's better than Pennington...and better than many starters in the league. To me...that says more about the other guys than about Henne...
    The entire principal about the Dolphins this past three years under the Parcells' era has been one of gimmickry. The wildcat? This offensive scheme was thrown together out of a high school playbook in order to get our two best players (Ronnie Brown and Rickey Williams) on the field at the same time. The future thinking included drafting Pat White (since cut) to run the offense. (C'mon, Chad Pennington? This guy can throw 36 yards down field with the wind at his back on a good day, yet he was positioned as our starting QB.) This idea came off the rails when every team figured out and copied the wildcat ,and as a second thought Henne was drafted somewhere along the way to work as a back up plan.

    The thing is, Henne is not a bad QB. Yes, he is prone to rookie mistakes, yet you have to question just how limp our offensive line is that leads to him making questionable decisions. Also, ask why the deep threat of Brandon Marshall has yet to materialize. Could it be that the O-line can not hold off the rush long enough for plays to materialize? It would seem so, as the only time Miami seems to get anywhere is on the ground. Of course, this is only at an average of 3 yards per down, so we wind up having to throw on 3rd and long and wind up either intercepted, punting or of within range, kicking for 3 points.

    The painful truth is the Dolphins have not been capable of putting an offense together since the Marino days, and even then it came down to the QB to make something out of it. 1985 was a long fucking time ago. Being a Van Halen fan should make that obvious, but certainly no less delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_R View Post
    I don't think so bro. But, you never know. I think Cowher would be a more likely choice. That being said I don't think it'll be him either.
    I would love to have Cowher or Gruden but would prefer Gruden because of the offense. I just don't want some lame ass puppet yes man that Jerry likes to hire. I definitely don't want Jason Garrett or someone like John Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Texan View Post
    Love the pick. It should be captioned: How the fuck did that just happen? Someone is going to pay! As opposed to old Wade and his golly gee shucks we have some work to do attitude.

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    Enough about Dallas from me, they make me fuckin sick and as far as I'm concerned Garrett should have got the boot with Phillips. I took the Giants this week so hopefully I will start to get an extra win each week in our pick em pool. I took the Dolphins this week Chef, BECAUSE Pennington is starting. I'm a sucker for the whole Don Strock/older QB geting something going. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKIN WHISKEY View Post
    I took the Dolphins this week Chef, BECAUSE Pennington is starting. I'm a sucker for the whole Don Strock/older QB geting something going. We'll see.
    Me too. Strock was just about the smartest guy in football. He'd sit on his couch for half the season, then come to some team's rescue! I wonder if Randy Moss will be used as a decoy for the Titans, in order to establish the run or short pass. Neither Collins or Young have what you'd call a cannon for an arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKIN WHISKEY View Post
    I'm a sucker for the whole Don Strock/older QB geting something going. We'll see.
    Somehow, I don't see the next Epic in Miami being led by Chad Pennington...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Shark View Post
    Somehow, I don't see the next Epic in Miami being led by Chad Pennington...
    Particularly if it's a relatively meaningless mid season game waged at 1 in the afternoon. Now if it was during the playoffs...

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    I wouldn't get so gung ho about Chad Pennington starting Sunday. The guy is so injury prone he may pull a muscle combing his hair Saturday morning.

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    However, if he is healthy, he can be effective. He is the NFL career leader in completion percentage and has a lifetime 90.1 QB rating. I am not a huge Pennington fan but I do think he can win some ball games with the current team in Miami. I'm going to keep a close eye on that game Sunday. If it turns out to be as good as I think it will I will probably just end up watching that game at 1:00

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    I have no clue what the hell is going on in the NFL. The first week I pick against Dallas in probably 7 or 8 years in my pool thinking there is no way they beat the Giants and Garrett picks up his first NFL win. I have been over .700 for the year on many occasions and this year I will be lucky to crack .600

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    Michael Vick's record game sparks Eagles to hammer Redskins

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    LANDOVER, Maryland — Michael Vick threw for 333 yards and four touchdowns and ran for two more scores to lead a voluminous record-breaking performance in Philadelphia's 59-28 destruction of Washington in the rain at FedEx Field.

    Vick completed 20-of-28 throws and added 80 rushing yards to become the first player in league history to throw for more than 300 yards, run for more than 50, throw four TD passes and run for two more in the same game as the visitors piled up a team-record 592 yards of offense in the second-highest scoring game in franchise history.

    Jerome Harrison ran for 109 yards and a touchdown while LeSean McCoy carried 11 times for 43 yards and caught five balls for 51 yards and a score for the Eagles (6-3), who have won two in a row and four out of five since a 17-12 setback to the Redskins in Week 4 to move into a first place tie in the NFC East with the New York Giants, their opponent this coming Sunday night.

    DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and Jason Avant also caught TD passes in the high-octane attack that established league records for the most first quarter points (28),the largest lead by a road team after the first quarter (28) and the most points by a visiting team in the first half of play (45) in addition to setting a Monday Night Football record with 59 points.

    Donovan McNabb threw for 295 yards and two touchdowns but was intercepted three times on 17-of-31 efficiency just hours after it was announced that he had signed a multi-year contract extension, reportedly worth $78 million over five years, including a reported $40 million in guaranteed money, with the Redskins (4-5), who returned from a bye week to suffer a second straight loss.

    Keiland Williams carried 16 times for 89 yards and two scores and caught four passes for 50 yards and a touchdown in defeat as the Redskins allowed the third-most points in a game in franchise history.

    After Jorrick Calvin bobbled the opening kickoff and made it to only his 12- yard line, the Eagles, who could not get the ball deep down the field against the Redskins in their first meeting, went up top on the first play from scrimmage to strike first.

    Vick rolled to his left, fired deep down the middle and hit Jackson in stride inside the Redskins 35 and the fleet receiver went untouched the rest of the way into the end zone to finish off the longest scoring play of his three-year career just 18 seconds into the contest.

    After forcing a three-and-out on Washington's first offensive possession, the Eagles started at their own 37 and needed just five plays to find the end zone again.

    McCoy's 27-yard catch-and-run on a screen pass moved the ball to the 'Skins seven from where Vick ran in on the next play. The southpaw rolled to his right, shed a tackle at the five and dived across the goal line to make it 14-0 only 4:43 into game.

    It marked a complete reversal from the first meeting when Washington needed just 4:25 to forge a 14-0 advantage.

    Kurt Coleman made an interception on a deflected pass off the hands of Santana Moss on the hosts next drive and brought it back seven yards to the 'Skins 37.

    Philadelphia required only six plays to cash in again, as McCoy took a shovel pass 11 yards to paydirt to extend the margin to 21 with five minutes left in the opening stanza.

    Following another Washington punt, the Eagles made it four-for-four on TD drives to cap off the highest-scoring first quarter in franchise history. Harrison started left, cut back right, shed two tackles and angled right down the sideline before diving and hitting the pylon to complete a 50-yard scoring run, his first with his new team.

    The visitors struck again with another long touchdown on the first play of the second quarter.

    Vick found Maclin down the right sideline and the second-year receiver made a leaping catch just inside the boundary and hit the pylon with his left elbow and shoulder while maintaining possession. The play was reviewed and the call on the field was upheld, giving Philadelphia a 35-point advantage.

    Washington finally got its offense untracked on its next touch, moving 74 yards on just two plays to make it a 35-7 game only 36 seconds later.

    Fred Davis went 71 yards to the Eagles three-yard line on a catch and run on a drag route before McNabb rolled right and found Darrel Young in the flat and the rookie from Villanova made his first touch in the league a three-yard touchdown.

    Washington finally got a defensive stop and used another big play to set up a second touchdown.

    McNabb found Anthony Armstrong deep down the left sideline for 76 yards to the Eagles five. Two plays later, Williams took a pass from McNabb six yards to paydirt to trim the lead to 35-14 with 9:39 left before halftime.

    Dimitri Patterson picked off McNabb on the Redskins' next drive to set up the sixth touchdown of the half for the visitors, who only needed to go 28 yards.

    Vick took a shotgun snap and ran to his right six yards for the score that made it 42-14 with 3:34 to go in the quarter. David Akers field goal from 48 yards out pushed the margin to 45-14 at the intermission.

    The hosts marched 56 yards on eight plays on their first second half touch to cut the lead to 24. Williams' four-yard TD run around the left end finished the drive that took 3 1/2 minutes.

    Philadelphia's last offensive thrust came when Vick moved to his right to avoid the rush, set and drilled a three-yard scoring pass to Avant in the back of the end zone to polish off an 11-play, 71-yard drive that made it 52-21 with 6:15 left in the third quarter.

    Patterson's 40-yard interception return 56 seconds later made it 59-21 before Williams 32-yard TD jaunt closed the scoring with just under 11 1/2 minutes to go in the game.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_R View Post
    I wouldn't get so gung ho about Chad Pennington starting Sunday. The guy is so injury prone he may pull a muscle combing his hair Saturday morning.
    I wasn't too far off. First play of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_R View Post
    I wasn't too far off. First play of the game.
    I thought the exact same thing when Pennington went down. I remembered your post and thought you have got to be kidding me.

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    alright chef! i hope your fins light it up!

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    the pic at :33 kicks ass
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