The 2002 Sam and Dave Tour -- Who Saw It? And Is It Considered ...

[vandeleur]

I dont know how you people went to this , if dave is on first all you're thinking is that twat will be on soon and not enjoy dave and if mr I cunt drive at 55 was on first all your thinking is how many beers do I have to kneck before I finally get lucky and hit him.

[Seshmeister]

Well not really, a lot of us left after Dave. I stayed and watched a bit of Hagar just for material for on here - it was before the days of 30 YouTube videos per gig, in fact now I think about it actually before YouTube even existed!

If Dave was headlining then no brainer just skip the support.

The problem started halfway through the tour when instead of it being a straight flip flop each night about who headlined they seemed to start making agreements whereby Roth would do a couple then Hagar 3 then Roth 2 and so on. As I said above I would have missed most of Roth's set if someone from here hadn't paged our hotel bar and I happened to be in it. Guy hasn't posted here for a decade and didn't know my name just the hotel I was staying at as I had mentioned it and he was from Tampa. Still makes me laugh it coming across the PA 'Phone call at reception for Mr Seshmeister'. Quite a lot of usernames here where that wouldn't have worked out so well.

Again technology, nowadays that would all have been easily sorted via smart phones and so on.

[vandeleur]

Well not really, a lot of us left after Dave. I stayed and watched a bit of Hagar just for material for on here - it was before the days of 30 YouTube videos per gig, in fact now I think about it actually before YouTube even existed!

If Dave was headlining then no brainer just skip the support.

The problem started halfway through the tour when instead of it being a straight flip flop each night about who headlined they seemed to start making agreements whereby Roth would do a couple then Hagar 3 then Roth 2 and so on. As I said above I would have missed most of Roth's set if someone from here hadn't paged our hotel bar and I happened to be in it.

Again technology, nowadays that would all have been easily sorted via smart phones and so on.

You're saying you're a better shot with a phone

[vandeleur]

Reading back through the posts it seems Dave was on top form. I think I still have one of the audio recordings from donnie p . I think its that tour.

[Seshmeister]

Yeah he was even still doing a scissor jump from the drum riser at the end of the show at 47 years old.

My only criticism was it was all very serious, Roth had this dumb policy that there should be no jokes or smiles by him or anyone in the band.

That and maybe some of his fashion choices during that whole period...

[DavidLeeNatra]

I remember that we were already discussing Dave struggling with his voice back then. But he was putting some serious effort in it.

[FORD]

Yeah he was even still doing a scissor jump from the drum riser at the end of the show at 47 years old.

My only criticism was it was all very serious, Roth had this dumb policy that there should be no jokes or smiles by him or anyone in the band.

That and maybe some of his fashion choices during that whole period...

Yeah, the various colored leather jumpsuits didn't do a lot for him. He ended up looking more like "Neil Diamond Dave"

[twonabomber]

opening night. met Von at the show, we were 15th row and i think he was second row. great show, good to see Dave on a big stage again, a stage i'd seen him on a couple times prior.

toward the end of the tour, i drove to Pittsburgh on a Sunday with the plan of watching Dave's opening set, leaving immediately after, and getting back home by midnight. took the long way down there, did a little tailgating in the parking lot, had a decent seat in the pavilion. homecoming show for Ray, a couple years later in Cleveland i told him i'd been to that show and he laughs and says he told his parents where not to be when Dave did the JD bottle bit. set's over and i'm on my way out...guy at the gate says "you're gonna miss the rest of the show" and i told him the show worth seeing was already over, and it was killer.

get back out to the parking lot, top down on the Jeep and i hit the highway. made good time up Rt 11 through Ohio, roll into my driveway at 12:02. fuck, two minutes late.

we were going to hit the next to last show in Buffalo. got the van all packed up and we're just into PA when Von calls, he's rolling through Ontario and lets us know Ray called and says last two shows are canceled, the Rotund Rocker blew his voice out doing a free show or something. we took a drive around Presque Isle, hit the burger joint around the corner from the house when we got back, and blew the rest of the beer money at Girlyland later that night. not the Memorial Day weekend we had planned, but pretty close to normal.

I've known Von 15 years. He was old back then, too.

[Seshmeister]

That tour was just before the age of crazy fucking seat prices wasn't it?

I bought 2 second row tickets off a scalper agency a day before the show for less than the cost of a standard ticket at the back these days.

[twonabomber]

I seem to remember tickets being under $50. I thought I submitted a scan of the stub for the site, but I don't have time to look for the thread.

[FORD]

$65 at The Gorge, if I remember correctly. The lawn seats might have been cheaper but I was right down in front for this one.

[DONNIEP]

Reading back through the posts it seems Dave was on top form. I think I still have one of the audio recordings from donnie p . I think its that tour.

You should have a DVD of the Camden NJ show too. Great show, the only downside is the video is the feed that was broadcast on the big screen behind the band so sometimes it's intercut with the BBQ video while the band is playing.

[Romeo Delight]

I would love to see footage of Pojo and VA with their backs to Hagar!

[Terry]

That tour was probably a net positive for Roth overall.

I've seen plenty of Camden, NJ and Hartford, CT boots of the Roth set of that tour floating around...I'd imagine those shows would both probably be on youtube by now.

He was in fairly good form vocally for that tour, and he had a very capable backing band. Brian Young serviced the EVH CVH guitar work quite well, I thought.

Yeah, his stage wardrobe for that tour was a bit cringeworthy, as were his platinum blonde hair weaves, as was his "jacking off the Jack Daniels bottle" bit...all of which kinda came off like he was trying to hold onto his youthful image a bit too desperately. However, he went out and served up the CVH tunes one after the other...I think he played Yankee Rose during that tour, and that was about it far as his solo career went...because Roth knew that was what people were coming there to hear. To his credit, Roth put together a solid band and performed a well-rehearsed set of CVH material. Personal cosmetics and wardrobe to one side, Roth gave all appearances of playing up to the maximum level of his abilities at that point.

You know, I never did see/hear what Sammy did for a set with that tour. From what I've read, it was several Van Hagar tunes, some Hagar solo stuff and some cover tunes. I guess Michael Anthony came out and jammed with him on a few tunes at some dates, as well.

[Seshmeister]

August 22nd 2002 Ctnow.Com Meadows Music Center, Hartford, CT, USA

Hot for Teacher
Panama
And the Cradle Will Rock...
Mean Street
Dance the Night Away
Runnin' With the Devil
I'm the One
Guitar Solo
You Really Got Me
Beautiful Girls
So This Is Love?
Atomic Punk
Little Dreamer
Oh, Pretty Woman
D.O.A.
Yankee Rose
Ice Cream Man
Everybody Wants Some!!
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
Jump